Women Can Now List Being Too Attractive For Reason For Being Terminated On The Job

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  1. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/bosses-irresistible-workers_n_2348381.html


    Bosses Can Fire Hot Workers For Being 'Irresistible': All-Male Court

    IOWA CITY, Iowa -- A dentist acted legally when he fired an assistant that he found attractive simply because he and his wife viewed the woman as a threat to their marriage, the all-male Iowa Supreme Court ruled Friday.

    The court ruled 7-0 that bosses can fire employees they see as an "irresistible attraction," even if the employees have not engaged in flirtatious behavior or otherwise done anything wrong. Such firings may be unfair, but they are not unlawful discrimination under the Iowa Civil Rights Act because they are motivated by feelings and emotions, not gender, Justice Edward Mansfield wrote.

    An attorney for Fort Dodge dentist James Knight said the decision, the first of its kind in Iowa, is a victory for family values because Knight fired Melissa Nelson in the interest of saving his marriage, not because she was a woman.

    But Nelson's attorney said Iowa's all-male high court, one of only a handful in the nation, failed to recognize the discrimination that women see routinely in the workplace.

    "These judges sent a message to Iowa women that they don't think men can be held responsible for their sexual desires and that Iowa women are the ones who have to monitor and control their bosses' sexual desires," said attorney Paige Fiedler. "If they get out of hand, then the women can be legally fired for it."

    Nelson, 32, worked for Knight for 10 years, and he considered her a stellar worker. But in the final months of her employment, he complained that her tight clothing was distracting, once telling her that if his pants were bulging that was a sign her clothes were too revealing, according to the opinion.

    He also once allegedly remarked about her infrequent sex life by saying, "that's like having a Lamborghini in the garage and never driving it."

    Knight and Nelson – both married with children – started exchanging text messages, mostly about personal matters, such as their families. Knight's wife, who also worked in the dental office, found out about the messages and demanded Nelson be fired. The Knights consulted with their pastor, who agreed that terminating Nelson was appropriate.

    Knight fired Nelson and gave her one month's severance. He later told Nelson's husband that he worried he was getting too personally attached and feared he would eventually try to start an affair with her.

    Nelson was stunned because she viewed the 53-year-old Knight as a father figure and had never been interested in starting a relationship, Fiedler said.

    Nelson filed a lawsuit alleging gender discrimination, arguing she would not have been terminated if she was male. She did not allege sexual harassment because Knight's conduct may not have risen to that level and didn't particularly offend her, Fiedler said.

    Knight argued Nelson was fired not because of her gender, but because her continued employment threatened his marriage. A district judge agreed, dismissing the case before trial, and the high court upheld that ruling.

    Mansfield noted that Knight had an all-female workforce and Nelson was replaced by a woman.

    He said the decision was in line with state and federal court rulings that found workers can be fired for relationships that cause jealousy and tension within a business owner's family. One such case from the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a business owner's firing of a valued employee who was seen by his wife as a threat to their marriage. In that case, the fired employee had engaged in flirtatious conduct.

    Mansfield said allowing Nelson's lawsuit would stretch the definition of discrimination to allow anyone fired over a relationship to file a claim arguing they would not have been fired but for their gender.

    Knight's attorney, Stuart Cochrane, said the court got it right. The decision clarified that bosses can make decisions showing favoritism to a family member without committing discrimination; in this case, by allowing Knight to honor his wife's wishes to fire Nelson, he said.

    Knight is a very religious and moral individual, and he sincerely believed that firing Nelson would be best for all parties, he said.

    "While there was really no fault on the part of Mrs. Nelson, it was just as clear the decision to terminate her was not related to the fact that she was a woman," he said. "The motives behind Dr. Knight terminating Mrs. Nelson were quite clear: He did so to preserve his marriage.

    "I don't view this as a decision that was either pro-women or opposed to women rights at all. In my view, this was a decision that followed the appropriate case law."
     
  2. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    This case takes conflict of "interest" to a whole new level. :rolleyes:


    This also reminds me of the case of the woman fired for her (distracting) big tatas.

    And that NYC banker woman who was too hot and was fired.
     
  3. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    Judges can be so stupid. Anyway,I wished there is news of those women getting jobs because of those cases.
     
  4. Alinoa

    Alinoa New Member

    Straight up fucking bullshit right there. Typical male Christian thinking. Can't keep his dick soft so let's fire her.

    I sincerely hope that his business goes under because of this bullshit.
    Fucker doesn't need to be having a business if this is how he runs it.
     
  5. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    I agree Alinoa,hope FB,Twitter,and others can bring that guy down.
     
  6. Be-you-tiful86

    Be-you-tiful86 Well-Known Member

    You summed it up well.
    This is crazy!

     
  7. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    I'd have to agree with you there

    Total cop out

    I know I can control myself in a professional environment

    If he's getting bad thoughts about his assistant he should rethink his marriage
     
  8. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Didnt she violate the dress code though?
     
  9. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

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  10. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    Her tight clothing were distracting.

    Bitch please, I see men in Lycra suits round here constantly, don't see the women going up to them all and complaining, though we all want to.

    This firing is absolute bs and shows once again how women are thought of as secondhand citizens and have no equal rights
     
  11. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    the black guy next to you says "join the club"
     
  12. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Men and women are different kid.
    Btw didnt she violate the dress code of her office? What should he have done?
     
  13. APPIAH

    APPIAH Well-Known Member

    On the flip side ugly women have a chance and that is few and far between.
     
  14. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    naw. the manager fired her because she was too much of a temptation and he was married. that was it. so he fired her truly because he thought she was hot. (I saw the report on the news). At least that is what her side of the story is. according to the report it is very accurate because she is appealing the decision(if Im not mistakened)
     
  15. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    That sounds weird. Who would do shit like that in this day and age?. Doesnt he know he'll get sued
     
  16. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    I know. it has to be more than that . If Im not mistaken he won because he is in a right to work state....meaning they can fire for anything.
     
  17. Alinoa

    Alinoa New Member

    She can't sue and win if its not against the law and what he did wasn't in violation of any law.
     
  18. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    Didn't you read the story? Sounds like you didn't?
     
  19. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Yeah I did. It sounds like she was wearing distracting clothing (dress code violation)
     
  20. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    That is what you got from that? Im not surprised .
     

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