Women Are Changing the World

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by Blacktiger2005, Jun 26, 2010.

  1. Blacktiger2005

    Blacktiger2005 Well-Known Member

    Last night my wife and I were sitting at my mother's oldest brother house talking about a range of issues. He said something that made me sit up. He is 85 years old. He looked at my wife and then at me and said, "you two sitting here in front of me would have been unheard of in my time and you take it for granted". He took my wife's hand and said "please do not take offense but you white women today are changing the world". I asked him what he meant by his statement, he said "there was always mixing of the races, but there was a time when it meant death for the black man or scorn for the white woman down here in the South so it was kept under the rug. Now women are doing things unheard of in his time and marrying whoever the want". I guess there is some truth to what he said. Women are the agents of change and they are changing this world in ways like never before.
     
  2. Espy

    Espy New Member

    So why is it the woman who is responsible for the change? It takes two to tango, the BM in IR relationships should get just as much credit as the WW. In fact in the past BM had way more on the line IMO than WW did. Scorn versus possible death, that's seriously unequal in terms of risk. Anyone who behaves contrary to an expected norm, to the point that the norm ceases to exist, or at the very least is positively affected in some way, could be credited with contributing to that change. In this case both parties in an IR relationship contribute to changing some people's perception.
     
  3. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    yeah you are rite but men in general are "suppose" to die for the love of their woman...but for a woman to be an outcast is very hard because it would be extremely tuff to make it..sorta speak
     
  4. Espy

    Espy New Member

    :smt081 You cannot seriously think a woman's reputation has more value than a man's life? That's some horseshit right there. Being an outcast? Big whooptie do. So you get a bad reputation, you can relocate and reinvent yourself... you get dead, there's no coming back from that. And I don't think anyone only expects a man to put his life on the line for love, I think it's generally thought that if you truly love someone they'd be worth that kind of sacrifice, whether they were a man or a woman.
     
  5. Blacktiger2005

    Blacktiger2005 Well-Known Member

    I find it interesting from a generational point of view as to how others view interracial relationships. I cannot imagine what the norms were decades ago. It's unknown to me. To say that the black man has no role in the transformation of this social order is not correct. I see it that those of a generation who lived under Jim Crow saw that the white woman was the property of a social order of hate and intolerance. She was expected to behave by a certain code of conduct. And she was not expected to move out of that box. Now fast forward to today for those who lived in a different time. We cannot see that today in it's purist form because of the social revolutions that have occurred that had largely put such thinking under the carpet so to speak. That is why I find it interesting that this site does not have a greater perspective of those who lived prior to the IR explosion we have today since that Supreme Court ruling of 1967. I bet many here are probably not even aware of it. I can understand where my uncle was coming from.
     
  6. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    I know it sounds crazy but that is the truth. men are viewed to protect the woman, the kids and the family honor.

    Im str8 up if you are married to a woman (in my eyes and a lot of my friends think the same way) it is a kill or be killed situation for his woman and his fam. we cant go out like a punk.

    it is hard for a woman because (WW) back in the day if she had a mixed child you guys caught holy hell.
     
  7. Espy

    Espy New Member

    You think women view that differently? I assure you anyone comes at me or mine, I'm going to step up. I defend the people who matter to me, and I have no problem doing so to the detriment of my own life. That's not a man thing, that's a love thing.
     
  8. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    hey you are the last line of defense honey..now go sit in the back room and let me take care of this fool. I GOT THIS !!!!!!
     
  9. Espy

    Espy New Member

    Hahahahahaha! That'd be a damn first.
     
  10. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    SAY WHAAAA. !!!!! LOL.

    Im a shaka zulu ...baby

    I will even got 300 on those fools
     
  11. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    I gotta wait to rep you again but we are in 100% percent agreement.
    Nice use of horseshit btw lol
     
  12. Espy

    Espy New Member

    Thanks babe. When I'm tired the country comes out.
     
  13. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    Women have been changing the world since the beginning of humanity. So don't quite understand the topic. Maybe some men just haven't been noticing.
     
  14. Raul Sinclair

    Raul Sinclair New Member

    yuppp...
     
  15. chicity

    chicity New Member

    My husband and I had a moment like that with his grandfather. A few years back he was talking to us about the old days, and he just stopped and looked at us and told us how different it is that we can be together.

    His grandfather is really awesome.
     

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