Woman Films Her Own Abortion

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Morning Star, May 6, 2014.

  1. southfloridagirl

    southfloridagirl New Member

    I remember my science studies from elementary through high school. In college, as a business major, I took Philosophy of Science, passed with an A-. After college, did some independent research into some things that interested me. I know the value of science and also its limitations. Reality should not be called upon to adapt to the limitations of the scientific method. I believe that as intelligent CURIOUS human beings our scientifc methods should evolve to adapt to reality. I am not interested in science that cannot adapt to reality.
     
  2. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    Umm, a little news flash....science contributed to adapting to reality and the applications pertaining to our everyday lives. So, no you're not fully aware of the value of science.

     
  3. southfloridagirl

    southfloridagirl New Member

    Science has yet to adapt to a lot of natural realities which it cannot yet control, nor explain. Or willfully ignores, for various reasons. What I really resent is that when scientists have no explanation for something, they will even resort to just brushing it under the carpet, as if such thing does not exist in the first place. It's like the cat that fell off the window ledge, and pretends nothing happened, walks away with swagger. It's a show.

    Just cause you can't explain it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This should be the dedication at the beginning of every science textbook.

    But anyway, I have to go to bed now. Good night.
     
  4. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    It's all about proof and that's something you're completely ignoring. If there's no testable means, then there's no point in working with something that's the equivalent to cannon fodder rubbish.

    If they don't have the answer, they aren't brushing it under the rug. Rather, they are indirectly admitting that they don't know. But once there is something pertaining to it, then yes, they are able to explore it, given if the technology is there to test it.

    Again, you're expressing a silly point.

     
  5. samson1701

    samson1701 Well-Known Member

    Bottom line: I don't care if a woman has a full grown 30 year old growing inside of her. If she wants to abort it, then it's her call and her right to do so. It's her body and anything growing inside of her body is hers to do with as she pleases.

    It's her decision and it should remain between her, her doctor and whatever god she may or may not believe in.

    And shame on us for trying to legally mandate our religious beliefs on another American.

    I guarantee if men could get pregnant abortion would be easy, simple and cheap.
     
  6. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    Absofuckinglutely. :smt038
     
  7. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    I applaud her for her willingness to keep this conversation going. However, that doesn't say much about yourself since you hardly contribute anything on the forums with anything other than minor sentences, which are often sarcastic and smug.

    As for this post, it wasn't necessary to include in here, thus proving my point.

    Agreed 110%, especially the last bit. But more so, she shouldn't have to be demonized by the picketing community and waste their time trying to convince her that she's a horrible person from undergoing the procedure and making it a bigger issue than it is. It's a personal decision and should be considered as such.

    Sadly, the pro-life community, especially the staunch advocates would basically deceive and lie their way into their convincing circles to not have it.

    That's all cute and dandy. No one is forcing people to terminate their own abortions, so I don't see the point in this response. And for the record, a child could grow up to be a murderer or something else. You have to consider ALL scenarios, on top of the more plausible reasons to even consider terminating a fetus.

     
  8. southfloridagirl

    southfloridagirl New Member

    Lol. I am not demonized by the picketing community. I used to be completely pro-choice until I went and researched the issue more indepth for myself. I am still pro-choice up through the third month of pregnancy (for others). For myself possibly pro-choice only up through the second month of pregnancy.

    I am what is called an "ethical vegan". I do not eat or wear any animal products. In additions, all forms of murder and exploitation of sentient beings are completely against my beliefs.

    If there is any possibility of sentience in a fetus, then I would be going against my deeply held beliefs, which have nothing to do with the highly politicized extremist pro-life community. Please do not associate me with those people. Thank you.

    “The True Measure of Any Society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members” – Ghandi

    No offense, Morning Star, but you sound like a eugenicist.
     
    Last edited: May 8, 2014
  9. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    It's interesting how you quote a racist jackass that had little care for the blacks in Apartheid. He clearly didn't follow his own words.

    I don't let emotions drive me since, as person who is 100% pro-choice, the person who has the say so in the matter is, and will always be, the woman. Regardless of research and other things, there's little sway that ultimately that the choice belongs to the woman, no matter what haughty ethicist would claim regarding what's "human life."

    As long as you don't picket people and tell them not to do it, then you're perfectly fine with your position, which...I do find reasonable.

     
  10. the deathdealer

    the deathdealer New Member

    Bravo too her.....
     
  11. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    False equivalency. Plus, are you sure you're not getting me confused with another dark-skinned person from the east coast? I hardly speak on racial matters here, so I'm not sure where this came from...

    And actually to respond to the second part, if you're referring social conservatives whom are black, then that's not important to them. The economic means to help build a foundation is far more important, but the GOP hasn't really provided programs which specifically target people like blacks. Sure, it's good that the package is all-inclusive, but it comes off as a facade as the GOP (and sure the Democratic Party can be guilty of this too) is more focused on giving greater incentives to businesses.

    That's a very silly moot point and highly uneducated too.

     

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