Will and Charlize look good together

Okay. Now I've been spoiled by that part. That's cool. There are a lot of things I knew about the film but I didn't know that.

Heads uo. This film is NOT the type of movie most will expect it to be. Its not some funny action flick as the trailer makes it out to be. There's a lot more to it, a lot more sophistication and risky directions to this flick that audiences will not be expecting. Word on its effectiveness as a film has been mixed for months. A lot of people think that the filmmakers and writers bit off more than they coud chew and were not able to effectively balance all the elements to make this movie great. Some people will walk away very disappointed (and not just because they were taken by surprise that there is a relationship between Will and Charlize's characters in the story). It will be interesting to see how it all pans out to say the least.

 

JamalS it is true since most of the movie according to some critics is a bit muddled.

 

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Saw a super-secret advance screening of Hancock yesterday at the Bridge in L.A.

Both producer Akiva Goldsman and Sony head Amy Pascal were in attendance. Akiva was looking mighty nervous as the movie was about to unspool... you see, this was a surprise screening for the common folks and not an industry event. No one in the audience knew which film they were seeing as they filed into the room...but everyone was secretly hoping it was the THE DARK KNIGHT. When one of the studio lackeys announced that the film we were seeing was Hancock the reaction was, to say the least, subdued. The usual pre-amble followed about how the effects were not totally rendered, some shots were not color corrected, etc.

Well, Mr. Goldman was right to be nervous... the film is an unmitigated mess... SPOILERS AHEAD--

I mean it. If you want to stay pure and not know a thing about slick Willie's Hancock then now's the time to go back to GTA4.

All right, for those of us still interested:

It opens with slick Willie on the roof of an LA building drunk as a skunk while a radio voice-over tells us in an obvious heavy exposition sequence what an asshole Hancock is... more public nuissance than hero, blah-blah... Hancock walks off the building and slams into the asphalt below destroying the pavement and several cars... he causes lots of property damage throughout the film (it kinda gets redundant, we get it he's a drunk, move on)... as Hancock lays on the smashed concrete while he's smashed from the all the alcohol consumption, a homeless guy walks up to him and calls him an asshole (I can't remember the last time I heard that expletive so often in a big budget summer film)... basically the film spends the next 30 minutes showing us what an asshole Will smith can be...

We cut to the scene in the trailer when he lands in the back of car being chased by cops on Highway, the asian robbers shoot Hancock, bullets bounce off him and Hancock pulls a Fred Flinstone, punching his feet through the floor of the car and bringing it to a halt. He lifts the car into the sky and impales it on the Capitol Records building... what an asshole.

Then Hancock goes to a bar and gets even more drunk, it kinda reminded me of the scene in the excrable Superman 3 when Supes got wasted and started flicking peanuts at the mirrored wall. Anyhow, he's approached by a gorgeous African American girl who comes onto him hard core. Hancock brings her back to his lair-- two nasty, dilapidated motor homes that were stuck together and Hancock precedes to show her his... well, you're not gonna believe this part but he tells the chick that she has to get away from him when he's about to blow his load (the actual quote was "when I climb the mountain")... and then we cut to the exterior shot of the two motor homes rocking like crazy. Willie was giving her his Hancock (I know I couldn't resist). Then we cut back inside and the girl flies across the room. Then three large baseball-sized holes are poked through the ceiling of the motor home like gunshots.

Yup, this is a first in cinematic history. We get to see the results of super-ejaculate. I never thought I would see super-semen on the big screen... then again, the movie was at one time supposed to be called TONIGHT HE COMES.

It all kinda makes sense now. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry... this was preposterous... it was at this point that I knew this was a debacle in the making... the conversation that Jason Lee spoke about in Mallrats which was intended to poke fun at a Superman type hero was actually committed to film. This was definitely a "what the fuck were they thinking moment" if ever I saw one. The problem with this film is that it doesn't know if it wants to be a comedy or a serious action film. Maybe they never knew. But the film only got worse as it went along.

The only bright spot was Jason Bateman. God bless Bateman for actually being the grouding force of goodness and smart humor in this mess... although, the way Hancock meets Bateman is cliched. Bateman's car is stuck on the train tracks while a train is careening toward him. A drunken Hancock saves Bateman but not before causing yet more property damage, which upsets the folks at the scene of the accident. Bateman invites Hancock to his house to meet his wife Charlize Theron and his adorable kid (the kid was great, Charlize did the best with her very underdeveloped role). There's an immediate weirdness and wariness between Charlize and Hancock (more on that later).

Bateman is a publicist with big kind heart... the kind of PR schlub that only exist in movies but you buy it because Bateman's so good. He offers to polish Hancock's image. Hancock ultimately takes the offer. Batemen tells Hancock that step 1 is to turn yourself in to the cops. Let the world miss you and then they will come begging for your services. Hancock reluctantly agrees. The whole thing about sending a superbeing to jail was a stupid idea... he can bust out at any moment but I digress. In jail, Hancock encounters many old enemies that he actually put there and then in an altercation, Hancock actually shoves an inmates head into another inmates ass... you actually see this!!! You actually see a guy's head in another guys ass! And hilarity ensues. I just could not believe what I was seeing.

Later, a bank robbery occurs with many hostages and a massive shootout. The mayor calls on Hancock for help. In jail, Hancock rises, shaves his scruffy beard with his fingernails and puts on his nifty new supersuit (which looks like a leftover from the X-men franchise). Way to be original, costume design team.

Hancock confronts the redneck madman who has a pressure bomb trigger in his hand. If he let's go of the trigger everyone goes boom!. Hancock severs the bomber's hand saving everyone. The city is grateful, the cops are grateful and so begins Hancock's road to redemption and public image glory.

Also, throughout the film we see FLASHBACKS that show Hancock running thorough a rainy forest with a child in his arms. We always see the same flashback multiple times in the film with a voice-over by Smith about dying vs immortality but get this-- the Flashbacks are never resolved or explained. i almost felt like I missed something. Like there was a reel missing (hell, maybe there is). It was exactly like the Flashbacks in BATMAN Forever (another Akiva masterpiece) in which little Bruce Wayne keeps seeing a diary beside his parents two coffins... but we never found out what was in the damn diary that so traumatized little Brucie!

Anyway, Bateman and his wife Charlize take Hancock to a fancy restaurant to celebrate his rehabilitated image. At the restaurant, hancock explains that he's not an alien, he's human... the last thing he remembers was waking up in hospital 80 years ago with two tickets to the movie Frankenstein in his pocket, but no other memory. More weirdness between Charlize and Willcock.

Later that night, they all return to Bateman's home. Bateman is passed out drunk. Charlize is alone in the kitchen with Hancock. Hancock is about to kiss her when she suddenly picks him up and throws Hancock out the window with vicious force. OH MY GOD, Charlize is a superhero too!!!

This is the big twist. Charlize later reveals that she and Will are descendants of Gods or Angels... she was at one time Isis. She also reveals that they were once husband and wife! We also find out that they are each others respective kryptonites. The more time they spend together, the weaker and more mortal they become... so they need to stay apart. She was at the movies with Willcock 80 years ago. They were on the road to mortality when Will saw a man getting mugged. Will intervened and got clocked in the skull. He lost his memory and Charlize decided to disappear from his life because the world needs one hero-- Hancock!

Willcock wants his wife (Charlize) back and vows to destroy every living thing to get her (this is never really explored or developes but could have been very cool). It leads to a huge showdown between Will and Charlize... more needless property damage. Charlize is stronger than him. Bateman finds out that his wife is a superbeing. He's pissed. Bateman accuses Willcock of being selfish because he wants Bateman's life. Depressed, Hancock goes to a liquor store and buys more booze only to thwart a robbery in progress, except this time the bullets don't bounce off him. He's gunned down and bleeding. He's rushed to the hospital. Bateman and Charlize show up to. This is the climax of the film, so the mad bomber from the bank with the severed hand escapes from Jail and heads to the hospital. Hancock is in a hospital bed, Charlize by his side when the Bomber and his cronies show up and shoot Charlize. She's bleeding and dying. Willcock suddenly gets his suprestregnt back (I have no idea how since they're supposed to be each others kryptonite... I'm still not sure about the rules in this movie).

The doctor's are trying to rescusitate Charlize while Willcock fights the baddies... but the closer Charlize is to death the stronger Will gets... but if she gets better Will gets weaker... to be honest, it was all very muddy and needs to be better explained or edited... I was confused. Anyway, Will throws all the baddies out the windows except for the big villain who is knocked out by an angry Bateman who in turn saves Willcock.

Willcock sees that Charlize is dying and he jumps out of the hospital trying to get as far away from her as possible so she can regain her strenght/immortality/whatever. In the end, bateman and Charlize are together and happy while Hancock is in New York sitting atop the Chrysler building saving lives in the big apple.

In my humble opinion, if the filmmakers want to save this film, drop all the silly stuff, like the super-ejaculation, the inmates head in the ass, and the lousy opening sequence and just stick to a straight forward action film... otherwise this will be Will Smith's first box office dud since WILD WILD WEST.

But what really infuriates me is that with all the resources at their disposal, no one knew what film they were making. This film is the equivalent of being tone deaf. Don't get me wrong, I think Will Smith is an entertaning actor but this film, as is, does not work. Hence, the panic I was reading on the executives faces after the screening. This film is not as dark as it thinks it is and not as funny as it thinks it is. It's right down the middle and that's a dangerous place to be. IRON MAN got the tone right. The DARK KNIGHT knows exactly what it wants to be. HANCOCK is going into the most competitve summer season since the glorious summer of 1989 Half-Cocked.

You may call me,

MARLOWE

 

I was wrong it was more muddled. That is a very crappy excuse for a brother not to have a IR in that flick. The sex scene of Hancock and the sister reminds me of that rap song "Superman".

 

I think the movie was great they had a reason for not being together, I say if you want to see more IR in movies do one yourself,do you brothers really think if they showed Wil knocking Charlize's boots it would make more white women run to you lol? I must say you don't want to become a fad like a purse or a small dog, have a e woman want you because of you and not what popular media puts out there.

 

I saw the flick today and they took off the load scene and flashbacks. As for the playing around which brings sexual tension but,in this flick never. As for how Hancock lost his memory back in 1928 in Miami, a southern city,he would not been in a hospital but lynched. The flick made a mistake on the Frankenstein flick it was in 1932.

 

I saw hancock and I enjoyed the flick, I would give it 3.5 out of 5. Not as entertaining as say men in black, but it was still fun to watch. ANd at least it is good to see will also slowly breaking the hollywood anti bm/wf thing.

 

It has not been broken yet. A good sign if he had kissed her-deeply. So far it deserves 1 on IR and 3.0 on everything else.

 

Don't worry Im not giving too much away...
Just seen the movie on saturday and OMG!!! TOO OBVIOUS

First of all there is a kissing scene between the two, but it was so fast, if you blink you'll miss it. And there was countless kissing scenes between her and justin bateman. TOO FUCKING OBVIOUS. I think that just goes to show how right we are about hollywood, I mean seriously that has got to be the quickest kissing scene ever. WORLD RECORD I GAURANTEE YOU....


TOO FUCKING OBVIOUS. ANYBODY EVEN NAY SAYERS THAT SAY HOLLYWOOD IS NOT RACIST ON IR COULD OF SEEN THAT.

I FOR ONE IS SICK OF THIS NOW, AINT A WHITE WOMAN ALIVE THAT GOOD LOOKING TO NOT HAVE A KISSING SCENE WITH A BROTHA IM GETTING TIRED OF SOME TREATING IT THAT WAY. AND HALLE BERRY, GABRIELLE UNION AND BEYONCE ALONG WITH OTHER SISTAS HAVE BEEN HAVING INTERRACIAL KISSING OR SEX SCENES ON THE FUCKING SCREEN FOR US TO GIVE A SHIT WHAT THOSE TYPE OF SISTAS THINK.
I MEAN GOOD LORD BLACK GUYS' HAVE THE BLIND FOLD ON TIGHT THAN A MUTHAFUCKER. THIS IS TRULY A ONE WAY STREET HERE.
HALLE BERRY IS MIXED BUT SHE BLACK TO ALOT OF BLACK PEOPLE AND NOT ONLY IS SHE DATING A WHITE MAN, BUT SHE STILL GOT A LIST OF MOVIES LINED UP TO SHOOT LOVE SCENES WITH WHITE MEN. AND NOT TOO MENTION BEYONCE HAD KISSING SCENES WITH STEVE MARTIN AND MIKE MEYERS.

And in reality Im starting to believe that this whole black woman thing is smaller than they are leading us on it being, because if ya'll remember that movie Usher did called "In the mix" where he had interracial scenes, if you notice there was no backlash from black women and he IS a huge star with a lot of black female fans, and there wasn't no kind of report on him recieving backlash form black women and his black female fans still love his ass. Not too mention that made over the budget of the film at the box office. I think that this the undoing of white producers in hollywood giving the spotlight to them on purpose to get black actors to think other wise, because they are going crazy with black females doing IR not worried about black males that don't like that and they ARE OUT THERE.
There small just like those type of sistas. I don't believe it, this is those rich white producers if you ask me. Cause let's remember that charlize theron have another interracial film in the works, that has been in the works forever and for that film they can get an unnamed brotha for her part or somebody like taye diggs or blair underwood. So where is the sista excuse there? This is charlize theron driven movie, she is the big star in it.

 

Are you sure they kissed KG? I saw this on Friday and the scene in the kitchen was questionable. I never noticed their lips actually touch. I thought he moved in and then just before they kissed she threw him through the wall.

Of course had Will been a white actor (even a white actor we never heard of) she would have slobbed him down FIRST and then tossed him. :lol:



There is a guy on the Mr. Marcus forum who has an interesting take on the whole thing. It has to do with Harvey Weinstien at Miramax. I haven't been able to confirm though so I can't really vouch for it. I'll cut and paste it here tonight when I get to a work computer.

 

Hope to see that quote Shaft. Had you seen My Super Ex Girlfriend? Uma Thurman was all over that guy but,she had revenge on him. No brother didn't get that much lovin in the movies. In The Mix was good and I wished there were more like it . I would not hold my breath though.

 

Y'all, this debate about Hancock is really some funny shit to me. Here we are in the 21st century, and we're debating whether or not the biggest movie star in the world actually kissed a white actress on screen. Unreal! Yeah, Hollyweird is fucked up -- and it ain't gonna change. If the biggest movie star (of ANY color) can't kiss a woman (of ANY color) on-screen then what does that say about our society???? It's not just about Hollyweird -- it really says a whole lot about our society today.

Another thing that's ironic: America is about to elect the first African American president in Nov., and yet Will Smith -- the biggest movie star in the world -- can't kiss a white actress on screen. To me, that's bitter irony.

In some ways America has made great progress, but in OTHER ways we remain just as ass-backwards as we were 50 yrs. ago. This really says a whole lot about our present society that doesn't bode well at all.

The Kid Rasta 8)

 

The saddest part Kid is that movie is making moolah and I don't think in my lifetime a blockbuster flick with a IR scene where the brother has a romantic moment on screen. The debate is moot on a milisecond kiss. It is strong paradox on the US.

 

Those who keep looking to Hollywood to produce what WE want are only setting themselves up for disappointment. It ain't going to happen unless there is a social movement behind it to change it, or that there is a huge demand for such movies. The movie Save The Last Dance did show that IR between BM/WW can be popular.

But I don't mind it much. Even if Hollywood started doing it, I really doubt that they will be able to produce a movie for my tastes. To tell you the truth, STLD was not really my type of movie. I would've rather seen a relationship in Finding Forrester.

If you really want to see IRs on screen, then it would be best to make your own movie, which can be done rather cheaply with technology nowadays. Sure, you won't have the A-list celebrities, but then again, you wouldn't see them in a Hollywood movie either.

 

Madscientist it is true. A homeboy had to be livin large to make a movie of his own to satisfy his tastes in IR. The same goes for IR soft or hard core flicks as well. Time is too short to bet on Hollyweird to wake up. Finding Forrester was a good flick but, the brother did not get the love interest like Matt Damon and Minnie Driver had in Good Will Hunting. One Night Stand is in my book one of the best IR flicks ever make.

 

Shaft2k4, if I may:

AND about the Jewish big-wig(s):

And when a poster suggested bringing in the mega-rich BM and BW, the response was:

So...

Have at it, peeps!

 

Thanks Lucifermorningstar. That's exactly the post I was referring to.

(Particularly the Harvey Weinstien parts.)

 

Yeah they kissed it was real fast, Im talking record speed and they added a blur but I caught it. And so did this girl behind me that kept callin Will her husband :lol:

 

SOME DEEP SHIT RIGHT THERE FOR REAL.
I GUESS SOMEBODY HAS JUST BEEN EXPOSED

 

I hate to burst y'alls bubbles, but the Weinsteins are not very powerful in Hollyweird -- they never were very powerful. They now run their own small film company out of NYC. Hancock is a flick developed, produced & marketed by Sony Pictures. If Will wanted to go all the way with Charlize's character in the flick...who was gonna stop him??? Will now is the most powerful movie star in the world. Just look at the box office of his movies.

Personally, I believe that Will himself is at fault for no genuine love/sex scene in Hancock. After all, would Sony really have said no to Will??? I don't think so.

The Kid Rasta 8)