Why Is Your Heritage So Important

Discussion in 'Stereotypes and Myths' started by The Dark King, Feb 22, 2010.

  1. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    After having a conversation on here last night about being proud of your background it made me think what exactly is there to be proud of. Is it a good idea to be proud of something you didn't help build? Something you were lucky or unlucky enough to be born in. Do you want to be favored or disliked because of something that someone you never met did many years before you were even born?
    Wouldn't it be better for everyone to view themselves as just human not specifically to anyone nation or ethnic group? Aren't we pretty much the same except for the bullshit people try to brain wash us with?
    Then I remembered a great bit by George Carlin. Take a look and give me some feedback.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OnWnwwxNPA
     
  2. christine dubois

    christine dubois Well-Known Member

    It´s not correct to be proud of something, you were lucky to be born in, but if you made something by yourself- be proud of it. The only problem is that many people become arrogant and that is something else. Serious pride gives you self-confidence, arrogance is the diabolical big brother, who is not attractive, "he" just gets on peoples´nerves..

    People, who work hard, know, that nothing is simple and they identify show-offs very fast
     
  3. Espy

    Espy New Member

    Personally I'm not proud of my heritage, but I do find it interesting. My mother's family was fairly open about it so I have a lot of information on when the family immigrated to the US, how they ended up where they did, etc. But it was never communicated in a prideful manner, more of a 'here's where you come from' manner, in fact I was taught that pride in self is wrong. You can take pride in someone else's accomplishments, as long as you don't feel as if you personally contributed to those, such as your children or friends. But taking pride in your own accomplishments was not allowed, that was viewed as arrogance. There are a number of attributes that I admire in my children, but I in no way think I can take credit for those. They became who they are, I just gave birth to them, anything they've accomplished since is to their credit and not mine. It's the same with heritage for me, why would I take pride in my ancestors, whatever they accomplished they did it on their own.
     
  4. christine dubois

    christine dubois Well-Known Member

    I know you are telling the truth, one reason more to admire you, I got goose pimples, when I was reading your post
     
  5. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    I second that Espy
     
  6. Espy

    Espy New Member

    Thanks y'all, but I don't think it's admirable, it's just the truth.
     
  7. christine dubois

    christine dubois Well-Known Member

    And humble, too, what shall I say?
     
  8. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    I dont belive being proud of something is taking credit for it.
    pride isnt all bad - correctly used, its a very good thing.
    Same with a lot of other things such as stubborness, that is usually viewed as bad, but it can also be good. Yin and Yang, in correct context its good.

    Clearly noone can take credit for what somebody else did... but you can be proud of them... and although almost all cultures have stuff in their history that is bad or stuff we are not really roud of or even embarrased - its a part of our history and should not be forgotten.. that is the only way to not repeat past misstakes.

    Culture - which is a part of our heritage needs to be cherished and not whiped out. languages and cultures are dying out on a regular basis..
    It is a part of the evolution, but it to me looks like we today we want to assimilate anything that is different and that we are striving towards a universal sort of culture and not appreciate all the beautiful differences there are - and I think that is a misstake.
    We need to value each culture and cherish it and bring it forward.
    I think each kid should know their background, where they come from and feel a sense of pride of that. Its who we are and our ancestors brought us to where we are... all of us.
    I dont take any credit for what they accomplished and endured

    I just happen to think that is important.
     
  9. Tony Soprano

    Tony Soprano Moderator

    I've probably said this before, but I was taught to love and appreciate my own heritage while at the same time I was taught to embrace the culture of others because there is always something I can learn from them that I can apply to my own.

    I'm at a point in my life to where I'm proud of who I am and where I come from.
     
  10. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    at least one that agree w me:)
     
  11. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    +1 well said geeky :smt038
     
  12. Espy

    Espy New Member

    FG, I agree with you and Tony, and I don't want to give either of you the impression that I think pride is a bad thing. I think pride is something each person has to define for themselves. I don't think taking pride in who you are and what you've accomplished is wrong, but that is what I was taught and how I view it with respect to myself. I've never thought 'wow I'm really proud of myself', my mind just doesn't go there. Though I've had a few instances where I've been pleased with something I've accomplished, I wouldn't say it rose to the level of pride. I am very proud of members of my family for being who they are, I just don't ever have that same feeling directed at myself. I think it's just that it was ingrained in me from the time that I was a small child that taking pride in yourself was vain or arrogant. Like I said that doesn't mean I apply that to others, that's just the standard I hold myself to. Knowing who you are and being pleased with what you've accomplished isn't pride, vanity or arrogance, that's honesty. Thinking that who you are or what you've done makes you better than someone else, or distinguishes you as deserving of praise and validation, is arrogance to me.
     
  13. FG

    FG Well-Known Member


    Hmmm.. we might just value the word "pride" slightly different.

    To me there is two sorts of pride..

    I have the bad sort of pride, difficulty to admit I need help and take help.
    When I was in gradschool and was starving, I refused to eved admitt I hadnt eaten for days.. I just cant bring myself to accept help easily.. that to me, is acctually bad pride..

    On the other had, I am proud of some things I have accomplished, being careful that it doesnt go into arrogance and gloating and you quietly feel a sense of accomplishment and pride.. that is a god thing...It builds confidence and strength and fulfillment.
     
  14. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    Although I agree on the first half of the first sentence, the rest is pure garbage conspiracy crap. Go back to you little cave - troll, you are not fooling anybody.
     
  15. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    Do you want me to list all the other mass murderings/massacres that has happend in the world history? white on white or black on black?
    nah, of corse not, you dont care.

    Keep drowning yourself in hatred and consipracies and do the rest of us a favor.
     
  16. chicity

    chicity New Member

    "He who does not learn his lessons of history, will be doomed to repeat them", said Malcolm X, and then Farrakhan killed him.

    Lesson for the day: sometimes the people claiming to be the most pro-black are actually trying to distract you from their plan to one day murder you and steal your position.

    ...and sometimes they're just weirdo creepazoids, exploiting Black Power as a to hide their creepazoid tendencies
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2010
  17. JordanC

    JordanC Well-Known Member

    Great post geek.
     
  18. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Excellent point Chi. I have witnessed this in so many shape and form. Man oh man, you understand the black culture, philosophy, and conspiracy more than most blacks. I here by give you the honorary blk Phd. LoL
    Seriously tho, everyone of your posts are right on the dot when it comes to black struggle, culture and blk life in general. Nicely done!
     
  19. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    what??
    I didnt hear a word you said, your avi is so hot I have trouble concentrating
    :)



    I need to give you rep for that one - I think its the best of the best of all the wwbm.
    and seriously, thank you for your sweet words JC.
    XOXOXOX
     
  20. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    hot is an understatement wifey...good lord jc, i'm speechless...!!! :heart:
     

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