Who is this taking a shot at?

don't shut up. I think what you said was very well said.

 

I guess he's off the hook now.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/94-07072006-680422.html

Court Says Stop Case Against Rude Doctor
By: DAVID TIRRELL-WYSOCKI (Fri, Jul/07/2006)


CONCORD, N.H. - A judge has ordered the state Board of Medicine to stop disciplinary proceedings against a doctor accused of telling a patient she was so obese she might only be attractive to black men and advising another to shoot herself following brain surgery.

Judge Edward Fitzgerald made clear in a ruling released Thursday that he did not condone remarks attributed to Dr. Terry Bennett and found them unnecessary, but ruled Bennett had a right to speak bluntly.

"It is nonetheless important ... to ensure that physicians and patients are free to discuss matters relating to health without fear of government reprisal, even if such discussions may sometimes be harsh, rude or offensive to the listener," he concluded in the ruling Wednesday.

The complaints against Bennett included charges that he told a white patient that she was so obese she might only be attractive to black men.

"Let's face it, if your husband were to die tomorrow, who would want you?" the board has said Bennett told the overweight patient in June 2004. "Well, men might want you, but not the types you want to want you. Might even be a black guy," it quoted him as saying, based on the woman's complaint.

Bennett, 68, has denied making the comment, but has said he's seen polls supporting that position.

"If you look at the polling, nobody likes fat women," he said last year. "Is it right? No. Is it sensible? No. Is it true? Yeah ... Black guys are the only group that don't mind that. Is that racist to say that?"

A 2001 complaint accused Bennett of telling a woman recovering from brain surgery to buy a pistol and shoot herself to end her suffering. The doctor was also accused of speaking harshly to a woman about how her son might have contracted hepatitis, according to the ruling.

Bennett claimed victory.

"The question now is: Will the board waste more of your and my tax dollars and appeal this, or accept done as done?" he said in a telephone interview.

Fitzgerald also ruled that state and American Medical Association requirements to treat patients with "compassion and respect for human dignity and rights" are so vague they are unconstitutional. Bennett probably would have won his challenges before the board, the judge said.

Bennett said he planned to sue everyone involved for "malicious prosecution."

"I am not inclined to be forgiving about it," he said. "It's been devastating and infuriating."

Assistant Attorney General Elyse Alkalay, who represented the board in the court case, said she was reviewing the ruling and had not decided whether to appeal.

Bennett could have faced penalties ranging from a written reprimand to suspension or revocation of his medical license.

 

Ok, here comes the controversy...but I hope not...
This subject is a strange one...interesting nonetheless...

But, it seems true to me that you see a lot of BM with pretty fat women...regardless of the color!

Is it really that BM (here in North America) do not mind dating quite overweight women? I don`t know, but if I can still use my power of observation, i`ve seen quite a lot of BM with fat-to-obese women in the states...what`s the deal with that?
In Europe I saw that much less...now it may also be due to the fact that there are less obese ppl over there... :roll:

Also, I agree with Eyvah that sooooo many ppl are overweight that do not have a genetic problem but are just too damn lazy, use their car to go to the store next door, never eat normally and end up looking like the Michelin Tires mascot!

Self-love, not self-destruction, but a body that is well defined is more attractive than a body where every muscle is covered by a bi-layer of lipids... :roll:

 

I think it's an American male thing.
Again, I know a number of whites guys that like plus size so it's not just a black man thing.

But I see a lot of dis-like for women with extra pounds while I see fat guys walking around like they rule the world.

I truly don't understand why people have those issues. If any man or woman likes "extra" and if health issues are not in the equation, more power to them.

 

It is an American male thing because people in the rest of the world overall are not so damn fat.
Not in Europe
Not in Japan
Not in China
Not Brazil
Not Chile
Not Venezuela
Not Norway
Not Belgium
Not Uganda
Not Nigeria
Not Trinidad
Not Haiti
Not Saudi Arabia
Not Iraq
Not Cambodia
Not Vietnam

Are people obese in those countries. Sure. But nothing near to the USA.

Europeans overall find fat Americans...oh excuse me Big and Beautiful Americans fat and unhealthy.


And I have never met a man white-brown-black who liked BONEY butts. I have never seen a supermodel with a flat boney butt. I HAVE seen a lot of way too fat women claim men who PREFER in shape slender women of being sexist or insecure or slamming "real" women....

What does that remind you of....????

 

I think it's an American thing too.
In Europe, the standard of what is considered fat or thick or however you wanna call it, is much, much different. So different that I've been a little shocked since I joined this site.
In my country (and I noticed this generally in Eastern European countries as well) being fat is anything extra to athletic - by athletic meaning modelish body figure. Young women in my country who are not 90 - 60-90 are under it. More than this and you are fat.

 

Bravo.

 

yup! see the video game character in my post above as a perfect example It was created by a Russian male artist.

 

Well, I know this isn`t a very comfortable subject...

SO!!! what is the solution for America???
DaphneL had the courage to say this...and I think most will agree!! America is FAT...too fat...and that isn`t beautiful...

I guess it`s the lifestyle in America and the "Car culture"...one of my neighbor, a lady, really takes her car to go to the convenience store that is 2 minutes away from her apartment...SCARY!!

Let`s not even talk about the whole "FAST FOOD" thing...Jeez...

I may sound extremely shallow, but I actually broke up with a girl in the past bcoz of how...overweight she was...the crazy thing is that I couldn`t get past that, even though she was the nicest person, had a great personality, was great in bed...but just had a terrible "eating discipline"

So my question to you all: Is weight a DEAL BREAKER???

 

Maybe you should start a thread (poll) with this question JR.

For me it is a DEAL BREAKER, of course !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I don't find myself shallow at all because of it. Attraction in itself means what appeals to us, just as you like a pretty face you like a good looking body. I've never been or would be with a guy who is not athletic (is fat or too skinny), and since I offer the same, I don't see the problem with it.
I eat like there's no tomorrow and am lucky to have a fast methabolism, but if I ever get fat, I would understand and not only not mind if my bf/husband would dislike it, but I wouldn't like myself first and foremost and would do gym and whatever it takes as long as its a healthy method. It is a matter of self respect, (appart from the obvious reason of being healthy), of treating your body with the respect and care it needs, of liking yourself when you look in the mirror but having what to like, not just blindly liking yourself lol, and a lack of hypocrisy as in if you care what your mate/potential mate looks like (and who doesn't), then you should understand that its only fair for him/her to care what you look like too.

 

well its easy for someone who has never fought weight issues to say they would understand why someone would consider it a deal breaker.. I see it all the time.

I also agree that it is true, a person should keep their weight down to be healthy for THEM, and feel good FOR THEMSELVES about how they look.

Maybe its my age over time, but I would never not date a guy because he was overweight. I care a lot more about who he is on the inside. The most handsome man I have ever dated, was ugly on the inside. It took me a minute to figure that out, because I was so caught up in how great he was as eye candy on my arm. I will take a man overweight but with a good heart any day, over a perfect body with a mean spirit, shallow thinking, uncaring one.

 

After reading through this entire discussion, I'd like to know where this 'doctor' got his facts from about 'only black men' liking fat and ugly white women. How is it racist? That question answers itself, since he doesn't know what the word stereotyping means, and as for it being an American male thing, yeah, maybe (sometimes), but not ALL black males in America, or even Latino and white ones for that matter, and getting your facts from off of some stupid poll spoof website or something like that, which anyone can go into and skew up the results on, by pretending to be more than one person and entering the same results over and over again, only reveals how stupid and rude that doctor really, truly is, especially if he isn't familiar with the deep south of the US, which is full of obese white couples as well as the reverse.

I think Moskvichka already said it best.

 

I like you SardonicGenie. What are you doing Sat night?

Really though, the doctor seems more like an insensitive (and REALLY unprofessional asshole more than anything else. I would guess he said it in a flip way. Like I say to my friends when I gain a couple pounds "oh well- thank god I'm dating a black boy" and my guy is not a boy neither does he like overweight women.

 

Well actually I've had weight issues and fought them and would do it again if the necessity occurs. Don't wanna mention how hard it was. Personally I'm fed up with the "the exterior doesn't count, the interior is what matters'. They both matter, in different ways to everyone (if it didnt we wouldnt be here liking black men) . Maybe it's not about having fought or not having fought with weight issues (I don't think that anyway).........could it be simply what those people preffer and are attracted to??

Of course who the person is on the inside is what matters most and nobody would take the perfect body with the mean spirit, uncaring and shallow thinking. They matter too much in the long run, but it also matters liking what you see next to you when you wake up. Still, I don't know why people make this association (stereotype) that ugly, fat or something near it, must be beautiful inside and a good looking person is ugly on the inside. It never ceases to amuse me. If a handsome man I dated was "ugly on the inside" I'd search for the next good looking man (good looks doesnt turn you into a villan), I'm sure there are handsome men who have what it takes on the inside too, no need to lower my standards.

 

I never said only fat ugly people are beautiful inside..

However, not every beautiful person on the outside is on the inside. Many times they don't need to be, because life gives them more w/o asking as much of them.

I'd take an overweight man with a good heart and empathy for others in a heartbeat over the guy who works out at the gym every day and looks hotter than hot but is an asshole..





as far as my comment about people judging others.. I've been so thin in my life people feared I was going to be anorexic.. and I've been overweight and fought that battle too. My point is that I get tired of people judging others. Like what you like, nothing wrong with that.. but I will never judge another person on their own personal battles. I don't live in their shoes.

 

I didn't say you said that :lol:

For the sake of not typing one truism after another.........

I guess we agree to disagree with this one. Life doesn't give more to beautiful persons nor does it ask less (it might be quite the opposite since good looking people need to demonstrate their abilities or work twice as hard since people somehow assume if you're good looking you are shallow, an air head or less inteligent and you have based yourself on your looks to get anything in life) , it is just a generalization.
I've met beautiful people who went through so many hardships one average person wouldnt go in a lifetime, and being beautiful didnt help them at all unless they decided to use their beauty to achieve a goal. And if you refuse to do that because you find it ethically wrong, you will be hated like you wouldnt believe it because people want you as a good looking person to give them sexual favors, flirtation, to like them and whatever else.

Exactly. Like what you like. But since when people who don't/wouldn't date overweight people means they're judging them?

 

I stumbled upon this from the 'Net:

http://www.preemptivekarma.com/archives/2005/12/lose_weight_or.html

 

WHOAAAAA !!!!!! What an idiot !

 

Exactly. That was my point before when I posted about him and his so-called 'factual statistics'...

and, I could kiss the woman who wrote the article too. :wink: 8) Maybe someday if I ever meet her, I will.

 

yet you went totally berserk when the women here said the same damn thing in the other thread, oh well...