Ronja - I think you are on the right track. There have been many things said on here and people may want to dismiss your thoughts because of your lack of experience. I'm a mother of 4...ages 19 to 17 months old. They are not all my biological children (I say this because it's not about some sort of super genetics - although I would like to think I may have some LOL!). They each have their own unique personality. They are all highly intelligent, high spirited children. They are also all very respectful and well mannered and I can't go anywhere without someone telling me how great they are. And here is the really great thing....they are self disciplined. They have a strong sense of self and have sound positive motives for the things they do rather than doing things out of fear. I speak from experience....I believe more experience than those who have commented to you. And I can do so with certainty as I have raised children to adults. You'll do well to stick to the things you know. I think the saying of we do better when we know better is very true with parenting. Often times people feel that it's good enough to revert back to the way they were parented "I was this or that so therefore it's fine". Ok maybe so. Or maybe that's just a way to keep the same dysfunction going with their children. Sometimes it's tough to take a look at why people do what they do and see that there may be a better alternative. Many of your comments are right on - you see parents yell louder and louder or need to hit more or harder (some have even said that on here...now they need a belt rather than the hand, or whatever) But somehow they don't see that maybe the methods aren't working and there are better (while sometimes more difficult) alternatives. Sure it may take more time and effort to do other things...hmmm no one said being a parent is easy.
I see KnCA, you want to call me out again with the belt comment. And stating "some people", we all know you are talking about me. That is not the only subtle lash at me in your paragraph either. Thats fine. I asked you once before if you had a personal problem with me and I'm beginning to think you do, seriously. You can't just voice your opinion without trying to dog me out, on the DL I might add, in the process? And apparently you didn't read my post thoroughlly as you said I believe I never said a thing about my method not working but pretty much bragged about how well behaved my children are. I have no problems with my kids and in my first post on this subject gave God mostly all of the credit and myself very little.
Sorry girls. I really didn't mean to start a chick-fight. Let's please stop this before we're insulting eachother too much. We can all agree that no matter how anyone have raised their children, if they grow up to decent, well functioning human beings, the parents have probably done something right... So everyone: let's shake hands and be friends and never mention this topic again. Group hug everybody!!!!
That is the cutest emtoticon I've ever seen!! I agree - this is a touchy subject, it's hard not to get personal or take things personally and parenting is hard enough. The best thing we can do as parents is be kind and supportive of one another.
Actually Jasie....believe it or not - my comments were not directed towards any particular person. I read the thread and didn't go back and see who had written what...some things just stood out to me. I wasn't going into every detail that was posted about regarding this topic. To me the comment of needing to use the belt because the hand no longer worked fit right in with the comment that Ronja wrote. When I wrote it - I really didn't remember who had posted it. And it wasn't a big enough deal for me to go back and copy and paste every comment and address each one. I agree that this subject is probably best left alone because it's one that causes conflict without really any resolution. People are going to do what they are going to do. It's fine if you want to think I have some big thing about you. I don't. And in fact, when I took issue about something you specifically were doing - I addressed that with you on that thread. So instead of jumping to the idea that I have a personal problem with you...I would think that maybe you would get that if I was wanting to address you specifically in this thread - I would have. Maybe you are being a bit overly sensitive here. We all can post things about issues without it having anything to do with anything personal. I can take issue with something someone says or even does...that doesn't mean I have any problem with them as a person. I don't know you personally - and you don't know me personally. I don't take any issue with you personally...I never have. And here's the thing - because you don't know me personally, you don't realize that if I had a personal problem with you...I would have NO problem in saying so.
Well considering some of you are against spanking, I hope you still don't mind getting that ass spanked in the bedroom :!: :twisted: :lol: Much love to all you intelligent ladies on this thread. We have our own methods, but what's important it seems we all have the best interest of our children in mind. NOW WHY WASN'T I INCLUDED IN THE GROUP-HUG? :x ...y'all must've known I would've copped a feel or two
Not at all, Intriguedone, not at all :lol: Sorry to have forgotten you in the group hug btw. I know this will probably not fully compensate for you loosing those brief seconds of beeing sqeezed thightly in between all us white ladies, but here's another hug just for you
Seriously? This is such a frusterating topic for me because my white friends truly believe that black men date white women because they can get away with more. I am here to say that is absolutely NOT the case! Not with me anyway. I have an equal number of white friends and black friends and I have black friends that put up with stuff from their man (stuff that I wouldn't put up with) and I have my white friends that do it too. It's not about the color of a person that causes them to put up with more BS but about the person and how secure they are. I am a strong woman. I have given exes chances before, both white and black, that didn't make me weak it made me naive. I have learned that second chances never work and to get out the first sign of a bad situation. I have black girl friends (that are considered to be my best friends and I stood up for them in their weddings) who have put up with abuse, cheating and other problems. So, it frusterates me so to hear that black men date white women because they can get away with more because that's just not the case. The best way to put it is that there are men out there that like to be with weak women but they'll find that in all races - women just need to learn to respect themselves more and men will learn they can't do this to any women, regardless of their race.
You dug this joint straight up outta the grave...on some real shiiiiiiiiet.. "weakness" transcends all races, but white women, in particular to some people, are branded as being pushovers with no backbone.. ....and... any brothas that jumped the fench and got their "mack n' tap" on with them, were just as weak, and incapable of handling strong black women.. someone probably said something like this earlier in the thread, but it's too d@mn old to be lookin through and I don't care if i'm repeating someone else's rap.. When I go looking for white girls in, I am not doing so because they are "weak." I do so because of simple attraction and likenesses. I could not care any less if she cooks breakfast on demand, with no back talk. I don't care if she goes down or not, everytime I point to mr floppy either.. would be a bonus tho.. :wink:
..and no, we are not weak. In fact, if we need to, we'll kick your "ask". :smt062 http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fk-1mla0LeU lol, we start young. :smt005
Video I Love that video, that little girl is so stinkin' cute! And we can kick ass. I had a man put his hands on me once (this was an old boyfriend about six years ago), who was black, TRUST me I didn't put up with a moment of that. He was gone and I never looked back. I actually pulled a knife on him to get him out of my house and made him walk home and never spoke to him again. I don't see how any of those decisions were weak!