White women are taking all the "good" black men...

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There are other things that are of importance in this world that need our attention instead of this waste of an argument by angry BW
-Heart Desire.
I would agree with the spirit of this statement, but fall short of characterizing anyone, BW included, as necessarily "angry."
Your two brilliant examples, however,only go to further dispell the myth of black men "chasing" white women creating a "shortage"of black men.The statistical truth, whether people want to accept it or not, is the majority of black men prefer black women, and the strongest empirical evidence we have backing this claim is that of registered marriages which are recorded by the census bureau which reflect this claim, ie, black men and black women in matrimony.

I would agree too, that words are wasted in a world where people try and change the root of a person's preferences.If outlawing black men and white women together didn't stick, certainly the pressures of a pseudo-political correctness isn't going to alter anything for we in the minority populous that enjoy being with each other.Am I right?
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Wedlock:

I know that my statement is a generalization of BW. I have encountered that type my entire life. Those type of BW listen to the media and believe in the BS. Black radio and magazines have to be held accountable too. I don't hear anyone when you see Black Professionals, ie athletes, scientists, politicians who are married to BW. But when a BM is dating or married to WW and other non BW, the media especially black media has an issue with it.

Our people aren't monolitic and its time that we accept it. Just because you are in an IR doesn't mean that you are selling out, you are selling out if you forget where you come from and not being true to yourself.

 

Stereotypes and Myths.

-Excerpted quote from Heart Desire, replying to my previous post.

Again, I understand where you are coming from on this.You can look at the board sometimes and read some of those old posts we get, and it speaks to what you're pointing out.But still, you already conceded you knew it was a bit of an overgeneralization, so we're on the same side, really.

-HeartDesire


And you know I totally agree with this above statement, that's for damn sure!!!! That's why I love expressing myself as an individual first; and I'd love to see more brothers thinking from this angle as you seem to, Heart. Thanks for the insight.

 

I definitely agree with you Wedlock. I didn't mean to generalize; I needed to get that anger out of my system. I would like to see more balance in the media, we have to start creating our own images and stories.

 

Stereotypes and Myths

Cosign.

 

Not that i agree with the "white women are taking all the good black men" myth,but if you think about it,there really isnt alot of black men to go around.Im taking about successful black men by the way.I understand that more and more black women are starting to date & marry white men.Part of this reason is because they tend to further their education longer than black men and they seem to have a hard time finding black men that are successful as them...so they seek white men.Just think about it...successful black women who want a successful black man have to compete against other successful black women.What happens when you through white women who want a successful black man in the mix?Thats why i think that successful black bachelors are prob among(if not the most) desirable.

 

:roll: Why bother. :smt078 The comments you made have been chewed up and spit out before.

 

Stereotypes and Myths.



Cosign.Why pour crazy gasoline over an already stupid fire?

 

WW are not taking all of the successful brothas....its just they we are so accustomed to BW and BM marrying one another that anything that differentiates from that is shocking.

The "average" BM and BW will marry each other about 93-96% of the time.

When that BM has lots of $$$...I would venture to say that his odds of marry a BW...are still pretty high...(around 80-85%)

Accomplished BM have access to a broader variety of women....a poor BM likely can choose between a poor WW or poor BW....in that case it is easier to go with a poor BW...since you already have enough problems...marrying IR is one issue you may not want to deal with

BM with $$$....don't have has many serious day to day problems...therefore..any issues that come with marrying a WW...are trivial....

Ex:...if you can bench press 350 lbs...adding 5 lbs isn't a big deal...but if you can only bench press 45 lbs...5 lbs could make a big difference

 

Its not stupid, just a misrepresentation.

Your point of view isnt realistic, but a personal point of view, and your reasons are skewed by your own personal experiences.

Tell me...why do you use such positive adjectives (high-class, muscular, fine, intelligent) when you describe WW and/or BM in terms of IR dating but then always use such negative words when you talk about "all" other BM and BW? Does your self-hate go that deep? You make IR dating sound quite romantic. Everyone in IR dating is fine, pushing a Benz, and making a ton of money.

The problem right now is that we, BLACK PEOPLE, have fallen in love with money, the materialistic lifestyle, and this need to be admired for what we do or the status we have achieved. We look down on barbers, construction workers, and blue-collar workers like they are dumb or committing a crime because they dont have a degree or a pocket full of dough! (And there is nothing wrong with a college education and everyone wants their children, family, etc. to have one, but less than one third of the population has one so lets stop looking down on those who dont.)

Women, (black or white) will tell you that the older they get and the higher they climb the corporate ladder, the harder it is to find a "good" man (black or white). Why, because a huge segment of the men are married. And if you ask them, most women will tell you that the men who are single are not looking to get married and wish to continue to play the field.

Its no secret that black men are incarcerated, killed, and under-educated at a percentage far greater that any other race. But to say that there is a shortage of "good" black men simply isnt true. (Stop judging people by what they drive and how much "bling" they are wearing!)

Oh yeah, the reason you see a shortage of "good" black men in CT and MA, is because other than Boston, there aint no black people in CT and MA.

 

You're probably really young, right?

How is spending money on loads of unnecessary stuff positive? It's bad for the climate (which ultimately means that it actually does hurt you in the future), and it's downright stupid as well, as long as you could rather invest it. Of course, no one can see how many stocks you got or how many properties you own, so having a brand new cellphone is probably way cooler.
:roll:

 

I'll let you define "high class" because I have no idea what you are talking about...

Congratulations...Good for you. (Any sarcasm was purely intentional.)

 

Well, chains is probably not the worst thing on your list, climatevise...I wouldn't know since I never buy chains... It's still unnecessary though, and it is way much more likely to do bad than good.

News for you: It's not like start beating women, discriminate people, and turn into crime is the only other option on how to spend your time, if you suddenly stop shopping for a hobby. :roll:

That "it doesn't matter if I find joy shopping unnecessary stuff, because others beat people or do crack", is nonsense. You can always find worse people with worse habits than yourself.

Anyway, that buying "nice" things is life is your joy in life is just plain sad...

 

I realize this is probably pointless...but what the hell I'm in a mood.

I think the problem here is that it is NOT that black men are denying or bashing black women by being with white women. Just as white women are NOT bashing or denying white men by being with black men.

I realize there are some who do. But it's a very limited view to think that's what most of us are doing.

People are attracted to who they are attracted to. And that can be at a much deeper level than you may realize. Why would you really want to be with a man who preferred another woman (no matter what that preference was)

Most of us not only do not have any issues with white men or black women but embrace and celebrate them. I love black women. I fully realize that black men came from black women. I'm raising a black woman (I said black NOT biracial) and I fully appreciate those who came before her. I also appreciate white men...without them I would not exist. I'm raising 2 white men as well.

Personally, I have NO interest in a man who has issues with his race. That is NOT what this is about at all.

Sorry but you don't get to tell me or anyone else who they should or do love or how they love.

If you don't want to be with a black man who wants white women...then DON'T. It's very simple. What anyone else does really has nothing to do with you. Go out and find what it is that you are wanting. Stop buying into the bullshit that there aren't any good black men who want black women. The whole idea of scarcity is just ridiculous. I don't give a rip about the statistics. I'm assuming you want ONE man not many - so go find him. While I may question the idea of the fact that a black man has a preference for white women as meaning what you've decided it does...I would certainly say do NOT be with ANY man who truly has the attitude of that "you're not good enough for me".

Place yourself in an environment that is conducive to what you are wanting rather than complaining about those who are doing that which you do not want.

Once again, it amazes me when people choose to come on this site which is clearly about supporting black men and white women...when they are not supportive. What is the point? Do you REALLY think that coming on a site specifically for white women and black men who are interested in each other and bitching is going to get you somewhere? Do you really think that anyone on here has not heard all the garbage before? Maybe if you invested that same time in finding what it is that you want, it would be much more productive for you.

 

Black women told me for years I was not good enough for them or a good man so I do not count when they lament about not finding one.

 

Here we go again.

White girls + BM = "sellout"?

Come down to the "nigga" level?

I'm not saying you're generalizing all of us(BM) in your post, its just .. well... a bit over the top.

Once she finds a more accomplished white guy all bets are off?

Hmmm.. stereotypes anyone?

 

Amazing. No, I'm a white woman.

Just goes to show how limited you are.

Here's the bottom line....you have no business being here. Do you REALLY think that ANYONE on here gives a shit about what you or any other thinks about what we do looks like? And do you REALLY think that we all haven't dealt with this bullshit before you coming along and trying to impart your unsolicited wisdom?

You certainly do prove that there are stereotypes out there alive and well...unfortunately. It really is NOT about going against black women if a man wants to be with a white woman. Just as you, everyone has their own preferences. To sit and try to argue about it is ridiculous. You aren't going to change anyone's mind.

Just a word here....I don't have any problem finding very successful good looking white men. If that's who I wanted, that's who I would be with. Very interesting that you think it's all about accomplishments and looks.

If you really didn't give a fuck about it all - then you wouldn't be going out of your way to find a site for black men and white women and trying to stir up some shit.

But then I'm sure my words are wasted because your posts will end up getting removed.

I certainly do not think that black men go for white women as a way of going against black women (yes there are some...I wouldn't be with one who had those issues) but man I tell you...with the attitude you are throwing out here - I could certainly see why some might. Thankfully most people realize that you are just ONE voice and not representational of all or even most black women.

 

oh btw - I don't quite get how a black man can be supportive of a black woman coming home complaining about a chick at work calling her an N if she's out there calling that same black man the same shit.

Anyone taring another person down is NOT going to be beneficial for anyone.

I'm quite sure there are some more appropriate websites out there for you to go and bitch about black men.

 

Statistics.....

There are 2 million more African American women in the USA than African American men.

Black America is 60% female.

60% of African American men with incomes over $100,000 yr are IR married.

50% of African American men who are doctors or lawyers are IR married.

At the same time, there are African American women are IR married to rich men.

20% of African American men shack up interracially.

 

Re: White women are taking all the "good" black me

usually giving a source with statistics, increases your credibility...

just FYI..

lots of people came here in the past and put up stats with "phantom" sources

:wink:

however

I don't need to see statistics to know that there are well-off black guys, who leave "black america," and marry interracially...

part of this has to do with their social environments...

a black doctor is more likely to work around tons of other doctors, that are not black...

For instance... the Hospital of the University of Pa (HUP)'s department of surgery, from what I've seen, is composed of mostly non-black surgeons. I can literally count the black surgeons that I have seen, over a course of 3 years, using my fingers. So, of course, the few black docs are constantly engaged with white people, etc, and probably don't really see too many other black people, at that same societal tier, which leads them to date interracially. And, of course, because of the "dollar signs" that people see when they hear "surgeon," that makes going with a black guy, who is a doctor, much more easier.

This is just based on what I seen. Some other cities may have more diverse upper-echelons within hospitals.

late edit - I was surprised to find out that a phenomenal african-american neuro-surgeon, by the name of Ben Carson, was married to a black woman. I know he has probably had his share of non-black women, trying to hook up with him