White Women Are "Easy"?

Discussion in 'Stereotypes and Myths' started by Zen_Disciple, Oct 20, 2002.

  1. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    thank you silver and sardonic. Sardonic, we are not bickering, it was justthereforamoment who cant make a coherent statement so she has to insult others with name calling. Its sad.

    silvercosma, you are right, it is the individuals responsibility to choose a mate wisely, get in a committed relationship(marriage preferably) before doing anything sexually with someone that could harm them physically, socially, morally or economically.

    It is not social acceptable in the black community to have immoral out of wedlock births, just as it is not socially acceptable for blacks to smoke crack, not work, sell drugs or do black on black crime. there is just a bad element in the black community which has infected many in it but its not something that we readily accept as normal behavior.


    signed, Einstein
     
  2. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    Yeah, I've noticed. Now I am suspicious of her being here.


    Yes, she is right. It's not always OUR fault what choices black women do or do not make. Placing the blame on the other side because of gender and racial related reasons is childishly incoherent and neurotic.


    Unfortunately, but so have other ethnic groups when pointing fingers.

     
  3. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    yes if it is not a problem(out of wedlock births) which is the primary reason for poverty in black and brown communitieis as well as white--then we should cut out welfare, WIC, Childrens Health Insurance Program, Aid to dependent children, Affirmative Action, scholarships for poor and minorities. I will accept that trade off, since it is not the responsibility of the individual in their actions, then it should not be the responsibilities of the taxpayer to give money to these broken social programs
     
  4. Lexington

    Lexington New Member

    justhereforaminute, this is one of the best educations you'll ever receive in life. Absorb everything you learn here and take it as fact that men like this do exist, and please don't entertain any ideas whatsoever that they will ever view your humaness on the same par as any woman who is nonblack. If you read through all the threads you'll see that they will celebrate and deify nonblack women for the exact same things they abhor in black women. These men cannot help how they feel and quite often know everything...the good, the bad and the ugly about the only women they can remotely care about. Many of them have fallen deeply in love just from dating images in magazines or those onscreen. They nurse profound feelings of guilt over fleeting instances of interest or attraction to black women...but they accept the fact that nonblack women will never join them in their responses and natural feelings for males from her own group. There are some men who can appreciate all women, and there are some who can appreciate any women except those who are their mirror image. I respect these men most when they stay the course and continue striving for what they want whether they get it or not.
     
  5. Silvercosma

    Silvercosma New Member

    Hmm...and why are you using a hypothetical example? The real numbers are available [1]:

    The abortion rate for non-white women is 54 per 1,000 non-white women
    The abortion rate for white women is 20 per 1,000 white women

    Now do the maths again.

    Lets see what Essence, the "magazine for today's Black women" said about that:
    "When the subject of extramarital affairs comes up, it is generally assumed that it's the man in a marriage who is breaking the wedding vows. But it's becoming more and more evident that married women have affairs, too. A 1989 ESSENCE poll found, for instance, that 46 percent of our married respondents have had extramarital affairs, with the percentage of women who have strayed going up with age."


    See, I really don't care if you believe that being a Out-of-Wedlock Mom and having unprotected sex is "normal" and perfectly okay, and I really don't care if that's the way you want to spend your life, that's neither my business nor my problem, but what irks me is that you propagate false informations and blame the men here for your decisions and actions, as if black women are will-less puppets unable to accept personal responsibility for their own body and own life.

    Food for thought:
     
  6. Lexington

    Lexington New Member

    justhereforaminute, there have been a number of women on this board who weren't married and had multiple children with multiple men. silvercosma congratulated one and did the usual fawning reserved for white women who give birth regardless of their marital status or whether they are even in relationships. It's has become second nature for her to deflect her own cunning, racism, shortcomings and immorality at any cost. When that doesn't work I can assure you she'll reach for any number of new "syndromes" and proceed to tick off a litany of symptoms to justify any criminal, irresponsible, gross or vulgar behavior traced to any white woman. It's easy to find training in minimizing and damage control when you look at the rush to whitewash the stains of Mary Kay LeTourneau and all the other pedophiles that have been filling the news of late. When Mrs. Yates did away with all her children she was later portrayed as overworked, constantly put upon and the victim of her husband who kept impregnating her at warp speed. Even those women who performed crude c-sections to steal unborn children had excuses offered on their behalf. silver's claim to fame is being a fake savior to the gullible. I can just imagine the similarities in her character to that wretch in Maryland who confessed on her dying bed to sending a man to prison for rape...all because she robbed him after sex and feared the outcome once he awakened.

    You have married women who think nothing of having unprotected sex with several men to get pregnant anonymously. I'm trying to figure out which category these children belong since the parents are not married to eachother. I imagine those figures will never reflect the accuracy they deserve. hmmmm

     
  7. Silvercosma

    Silvercosma New Member

    Everybody who can't stand black men bashing trolls which collectively hyperventilate at the thought of personal accountability and bore people to death with their endless victimhood proclamations is a criminal and closet racist. Old news! And yes, I also eat little children for breakfast, uncooked of course since I'm starving for raw meat. [​IMG]
     
  8. Lexington

    Lexington New Member

    Now if you were a really good saviour you'd act as a scout and report on the machinations of the evildoers you grew up amongst and helped to nurture and encourage along the way. Make no mistake...there's nothing closeted about your racism and never has been. You are so typical it's not even funny. And BTW I wouldn't doubt for a second if you did snack on raw human flesh a la Jeffrey Dahmer and more recently your brother in Oklahoma. Your sordid little handiwork lives on no matter how you try to convince bm who their true enemies are. Now I know all ww aren't the dregs like you, but there's something particularly sinister about a person who works doubletime trying to erase and obscure her own deadly history using smoke and mirrors and thinks she won't be detected.
     
  9. Lexington

    Lexington New Member

    Whites with criminal records can get employment over blacks whose records are spotless. No matter what they know and see society always try to whitewash and apply some nifty condition to explain away why particular people aren't responsible for their actions. One of the pedophile teachers was re-arrested for sending nude videos to her teen victim. Her parents were on GMA furiously trying to come up with some excuse as if their daughter was powerless to control her actions even though she was already in trouble. An 8 year old black boy was repeated molested by his little playmate's mother in Connecticut...yet the pedophile's mother stated publically that it was the child's fault. Can you imagine the difference in public opinion had Natalee Holliway been a wantonly loose black teen on the prowl in Aruba that came up missing?
     
  10. Lexington

    Lexington New Member

    Her fangs drip and she salivates reading negative comments directed at bw from bm. She'd never associate with a healthy bm who didn't go through the paces of proving his devotion to her by hating bw. That's why she didn't appreciate positive comments by one of the bm on a thread devoted to bw and called him out for being a hypocrite. Some of the women on other boards talk about what they give up to be with bm and how many of them cannot return to wm especially if they have children. This is certainly not the case with all, but some of these women foam at the mouth if they suspect or witness any civility between bm and bw. This type feel it's their place to play traffic cop even in matters that do not include them. Silver never professes her love for bm if you notice, but it's clear she sees her role is to rachet up friction and plant seeds of doubt. It wouldn't surprise me if she was apart of some supremacist organization because they will stoop to anything. When one of the ww stopped seeing a bm and replaced him with a wm she had no problem with this decision and made it clear she was in support of it. She's all about preserving good relations with men who look like her, and you will not find any instances where she bashes wm in favor of bm.
     
  11. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    hmm, this is WW BM forum, I am just curious, why is a BW here stirring up atagonism about BM or WW? I am sure there are BW forums in other sites, in fact, i know of mindkandy that loves to attack brothas for dating WW but dont mind dating WM
     
  12. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    the only issue i have with your postings is that this is a WW BM website and you are not here having constructiive conversations with people here but rather making arguments about someones posting.

    have a conversation with others here, thats what we are here for
     
  13. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    can you name the men who are filled with bigotry? I dont think anyone on here is filled with bigotry.

    Constructive Conversations would be to start a thread with a question. there are topic areas that deal with sex, true, but that is where WW and BM can share their physical attractions for one another( I dont care for it but many others do).

    There are sports threads, political threads, religious threads. It would be nice to hear from a BW about the positive interactions and interests you have with BM/WW IR dating. that is what this Website is about WWBM sharing interesting subjects.

    I personally welcome constructive conversation, and I agree with you that there are many that are not so constructive but the webmaster works to keep it in context
     
  14. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    if you get a chance check out what i said in "white women are charming black women have attitudes. I am not a bigot, i do believe there are charming black women and white women with attitudes, and vice versa. i think they are gross generalizations for the most part as are others, but i dont see bigotry, as much as i see some misguided folk and others telling why they do not date black women and why they do date white women(and those are fair).
     
  15. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    i see part of your point, someone wrote an Ignorant statement about White Women being Easy, and others including myself have stated that that statement is not true. "Some White Women might be easy, just like Some black women might be easy, but not all White or Black women are easy". I dont know any white or black women who are easy, i dont know plenty of WW and BW who make terrible choices, mistakes and try and live negative lives, just as I know positive Christian and Jewish black and white women who make great choices with their lives and try and live in the will of God.

    I dont like blanket statements either, and I dont think they are bigots, but I do think they are miseducated.

    black women may look like our mothers but that doesnt mean much today. we have a black woman as Secretary of State--the first ever, and she is as black(looking) as everyones mother, but I dont see black people treating her like their mother, so how do you expect these men to treat all black women when the black community has lost all common decency in treating people in high places, even if we vehemently disagree with them.. We used to. I dont care for MLK jr and I do agree at all with Malcolm X but I respect them for their perspectives on life and ideas
     
  16. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    also when sistahs call black brothas "no good" does your kkk analogy still apply? magazines like Ebony and Essence, movies like Waiting to Exhale and many books talk about black men as dogs and no good, they are doing the same think which you accuse black men here of doing to black women. Either all are wrong or something aint right here.
     
  17. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    see now sistah, we are speaking the same lingo. i dont understand black people tearing down one another either. I love my black people, especially when they are acting right, but I cant stand negroes(like chris rock says) when all they do is play a victim(white man did this to us, this country is racist, etc).

    I am old enough to remember the old days when there was no affirmative action. black folks owned businesses in Jim Crow South, black folks when to college and universities in Jim Crow South, black folks had our own in Jim Crow South, Black folks loved one another in Jim Crow South and we were proud and we still did the right thing. Then came integration and our schools went to secular humanist hands and all was lost. Now all we depend upon is a handout from rich whites(called Scholarships) or even worse, Government Programs. we were independent once and now we think the Democratic party is our new savior, liberalism our new God.

    We have forgotten to treat the black elderly with respect. we have forgotten that black women are beautiful and need our protection as men, we have forgotten(BW) that you are women first, you are nurturers, made to be feminine and soft, not to try to be hard like men. we have forgotten that it is not white liberal handouts that take care of our children or the socialist democratic party government, but it is US, We take care of our own.

    If I have made a desparaging remark about any black woman I beg your forgiveness, i personally apologize. I love black women, but because of the state of society black people have lost our way. and we no longer share the sme community space and ideals we once did. Now, it is WW who are being more nurturing and feminine(not all and not all sistahs are hard). But many brothers feel that they have to compete and fight with a sistah, when they want to be loved and cared for. sistahs feel that the black man has let them down and they have been emasculated by the welfare state(black victimhood perpetuates the ghetto and welfare state mentality and white liberals love to see us as Projects to save) and cant support, stand up and protect and raise their children. We let white Liberalism/socialism turn us from men to sex objects and addicts, we let liberalism/socialism turn us into refugees and lost souls.

    I agree with all that you have said and i will retract what I have said about what you were writing before. I see your point now. I wish that there were more sistahs out there who could speak to this deadly divide and start a dialog with the community, not competing but communicating.

    in grad school I had two wonderful black women as apartment mates, and i could have these convos with them--but we drifted because they wanted to date thugs, who ultimately let them down, impregnated them, beat them up or used them(probably because they didnt have positive male role models) and because I was seen as a nerdy brother and sistahs dont dig that.

    the dialog should start with trying not to control each other, not trying to say who is black enough and who isnt. I was born to a black mother and a black(multiracial) father. I am as black as they come color wise. history wise, knowledge of my family, and peoples history, I am blacker than most, especially the bros and sisters who dont know their own family history, never owned anything solely black and dont know where they come from in the motherland or here.

    then we can move forward to a brighter day :D
     
  18. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    OK, this thread has gotten even stupider now...

    so, we went from only talking about the stereotype of 'White Women Being Easy', to a bunch of bullshit about how the men in here 'hate' black women, and how black women have 'this and that' statistics in comparison?

    Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with some of you people? If you actually had outside lives, then you wouldn't feel the need to have these stupid conversations again and again over the Internet, which makes you seem paranoid and cowardly at the most...

    furthermore, crying about what some of the men in here say just because it bruises your own ego only adds to the problem, especially if you whine about them posting pictures and commenting on celebrity photos of fake Hollyweird women. Get off of it. How much reassurance do you need of your own self-worth, and what's the point of giving you any, if you already and always will feel worthless (as a black woman) no matter what?

    the postings in here by the black women are a dead giveaway of that...

    and the problem with your most RECENT posts, JUSTHEREFORAMINUTE, is that underneath all of your ratty diabetes are excellent points which you can't seem to communicate without going off the deep end, and what worse about is that when you and other black women come in here and get offended by what you read (for no reason, as if the individual poster actually knows YOU personally) all of YOUR own valid points come off as exceedingly hypocritical whenever you argue a good point about the content of the posts from some of the men in here in the site...

    and, Lexington and justhereforaminute, stop whining and playing the victim all the time just because you felt a little slighted by something minuscule, such as a stereotypical statistic of black people (men and women) concocted by the mass media ( which the both of you are more than often guilty of believing YOURSELVES ) posted all over these boards in here by drama queens with too much time on their hands and not enough common sense to utilize it efficiently whenever given the chance. When the discussions turn out like this, they don't get ANYONE ANYWHERE, and all of you who are arguing (Lexington, Silvercosma, justhereforaminute, and tuckerreed) just keep repeating yourselves over and over again...

    and everyone is in here for THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL REASON. Some of the reasons are right, and some of them aren't, but just because certain individuals hurt your precious lil' feelings doesn't mean that you should take it out on everyone else here in the boards and spam up the site! At least when tucker is spamming the site up, it's not out of bitterness...

    and, it doesn't matter to me whether or not some of the men in here resent black women or not. Why? Because that's their choice to resent black women, just like the way a lot of black women resent us on way more sites than this (they have way more sites, don't they?), which is also their right to do so. Doesn't mean that we as a people should do it, but certain individuals will always play out stereotypes for all the rest of us of ANY WORLD DEMOGRAPHIC, so get over it now. You can't force people to change who they are. If they want to, then they will regardless, or they won't...

    and, if you can honestly read through this site and tell me that white women are never being criticized in any way, then that makes me question your reading comprehension skills and sanity. Seriously. And, the white women in here would probably say the same thing...

    and, the ONLY TIME when the black men in here are criticized is when someone is trolling, since the trolls don't go after the white women. Black men in here criticize each other all the time, but not because they are other black men, and sometimes, the criticism is ONLY CONSTRUCTIVE and NOT DESTRUCTIVE, in fact, I have seen more unity between the brothas in here than in real life to be honest with you...

    finally, when some of the men speak out about their experiences with black women in here, if you actually take the time to read what their saying, and pay attention to why they are saying it, then you and Lexington wouldn't be so quick to act hypocritical, JUSTHEREFORAMINUTE, because, whether or not they are so-called 'bashing' you. there IS A LOT of constructive criticism in that. Take it or leave it, but keep in mind that this is an Interracial site, so one way or other, the fur is gonna fly, because people who tend to frequent these sites bring their outside issues into these forums. That's why their lives are the way they are, and why their life problems are always the same. You won't find it if you don't look for it, even in spirit.

    If you spend all your time obsessing over all black men who hate you, then that's what you'll always find. I guess it's wonder I myself , haven't been to find oodles-upon-oodles of black women and white people hating me, or Latinos and Asians (even though I've met plenty of each in my life), but I guess that's because I don't look for it, but oh well.
     
  19. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    i spam the boards? I dont even know what spamming means.


    to: justaminute

    good points, in the inner cities I work in, the older black men and women still act as if they have to be hard, I guess that is a defense mechanism, but it makes it hard to be a strong community and even stronger relationships when they cant communicate because they are so angry or acting so tough.
     
  20. Lexington

    Lexington New Member

    If you truly pay attention to what's going on and the high divorce rate, they really don't have much to rejoice about either. I'm not surprised about what that would-be stripper said, because many have reason to believe exactly as she does. In fact, that's one of the perks she gains from dating men like the one you mentioned. I bet she also feels that she and wm are more intelligent than him as well.
     

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