White pride for Biracials

I said John Zogby is a hack IMO. I also explained my interpretation of the results. I don't believe blacks "reject" the fact that Obama sprang forth from the womb of a white woman, I think they're taking a more honest position about how he's viewed (rightly or wrongly) in American society.

 

So?We arent talking about the blacks here.We are talking about the whites.

Chill son,i always do that LOL

 

You're telling me you want proof to a statement, and when I find them, you throw them away, based on nothing but your personal opinion. Yeah, that makes sense.

The topic is biracial people, so discussing both white AND black would be appropriate. Wouldn't it?

 

See,she dosent even look biracial in my opinion.I mean,i could walk down the street and pass a few black girls who look similar to her

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Now this girl looks biracial

 

We are talking the amount of whites who think barack is a biracial,compared to the amount who think barack is a black man.
We know most blacks consider barack black.

 

Yes we do. And why is that?

Howcome only 34% of blacks recognize Obamas white roots?

 

OMG. You're really not used to look at "real" black people are you?
The first girl looks biracial. The reason you think she looks black, is because you all have so many white genes in the US.

The second girl looks white. But with a slightly odd nose.

 

Yeah, it does to me. Although, I've lost track about the point that's being argued here.

If it's regarding whether or not blacks are more responsible than any other group for pushing the "one drop rule," I still say absolutely not based on my 20 years of residence in this country. Since we've segued into some quibble about whether Obama is considered to be "biracial" or not (which completely ignores whether any of the people in the cited polls believe that "biracial" and "black" are mutually exclusive designations), I'll point out that the "one drop rule" is used to determine the standard for "whiteness." And I think that very few, if any, people would identify Obama or most of the other people from the Youtube videos as "white." That's really my point here.

 

We're arguing who's more tolerant to biracial people. Blacks or whites.

 

I love that girl. I've watched so many videos of her. She's so smart.

Cute too

 

And your definition of "tolerance" is never referring to a person of mixed race as "black?"

 

Not at all.
Tolerance, in this case, is letting people who are biracial be proud of both their roots if they want to. And not forcing them to pick side. And white Americans seem to do that better than black Americans, judging from that survey you didn't like. Or by the many comments from the biracials on youtube.

P.S A biracial person who want to be called black (or white), I'd call black (or white). But if the person didn't say he/she rather wanted to be call black(or white), I would say biracial. I wouldn't just automatically believe the person would be OK with me excluding half the person's ancestry .

 

Hmm,maybe because for 5 centuries,your people have told them that biracials were black

 

Two wrongs doesn't make one right.

 

Neither blacks nor whites are more "tolerant" of biracials. Biracial kids (from what I have seen) that grow up in a mixed environment with lots of diversity don't seem to catch heat from any particular group. Biracials that grow up in an all-white world get teased mercilessly by whites and those that grow up in an all-black world get teased mercilessly by blacks.

Oftentimes, biracials may think they are "fitting-in" when they are in an all-white world but an experience (usually during adolescence) reminds them of who and what they are and they aren't ever going to be "white." Biracials in a black setting generally understand they are different from an early age....some adapt while others grow resentful of blacks.

Again...most biracials that have these horror stories must realize that most black kids in a black environment get teased and tormented at some point. You either fight and insult back...or you internalize it and take it personally and develop deep pathologies.

I'm not saying that it is right...but that is the way of the world (at least the world I have seen).

 

One of my best pals (son of Polish mother and Nigerian Father, 2nd child in the family) in boarding school in Nigeria got teased a lot.

For instance, they/we would tell him "See you...you be yellow paw-paw (you...you're as yellow as a yellow/ripe paw-paw/papaya fruit" and he would reply "So? You Black pass Charcoal (you're darker than coal)!" :smt003Boy, could he dish it out! Mofos had to think twice before they teased him. He became quite good at it too.

In addition, "Teasing" aka "Yabbing" and being able to "tease" aka "yab" back is a part of Nigerian culture.

Most of the biracial kids I knew back then adapted quite well.

 

All children will get teased for something when they grow up. Most of us can cope with it, some can't. And as they get older, the "teasing" will become more personal. That's true for anyone, biracial or not. For anyone who obviously stick out, of course that's what they'll get at comment about it in their adolescence. And of course it'll hurt.

I fully agree that growing up in a diverse environment will be a blessing to biracial children, as "fitting in" and having a sense of belonging is very important to any human. Especially children and adolescents.

But, I'm sorry to say, I don't really understand, how you can say black are just as tolerant towards biracials, as white? Sadly, it is the blacks the biracials seems to complaint about (those of them who don't give in to the pressure and start calling themself "black"). White people generally don't have a problem with a biracial categorizing himself as a biracial. Blacks do. You don't have to look further than this forum, to see that happen.

And not only are they being "forced" to be black, they're even supposed to be happy about it! Black people will argue, that when they're calling biracials "black" they're doing it to be brotherly and including- to show them "you're one of us". Like they can't befriend them if they're not black, and like the biracial person should be grateful to be given a chance to "eliminate" half their ancestry.

 

American whites do for the most part.

 

biracial children

I do not have any children at the moment, but when I do I stand a good chance of having children who are biracial. I am irritated by the fact that many biracial people in the U.S. are simply referred to as "black". When we do this we cut out half of a person's heritage.

My own roots are Irish. My family has celebrated over the years first by enrolling my brother and I in Irish dancing lessons, celebrating St. Pat's to the fullest extent, and visiting Ireland. I would hate for my own child to feel like they don't belong in these celebrations because his skin is darker than mine or her hair is curlier than mine. I don't want my future children to feel like they can't enjoy their father's heritage for the same reasons.

We need to acknowledge as a country that biracial people do exist and contain within them experiences and cultural upbringings that differentiate themselves from the "typical" black or white upbringing (or any other race, for that matter.) I would hate to see my child as anguished and as mixed-up as that boy on youtube.

 

Now you're just walking in circles.

Apparently the majority does not, since 55% recognise Obamas as biracial.