Whats the deal with Blacks and Drugs?

Yep, I know about that one too. I remember another fuckup from high school whom I was acquainted with telling me all about taking nutmeg to get off when he went to visit his grandmother in the country because couldn't score any real drugs there.

 

I will agree with you there. If people want to do it, that's fine. Let them waste away their lives and potential, as long as they aren't hurting anyone else. But, don't force me to remember my ID every time I have a cold and need some sudafed! :lol:

 

You know V777 - I think you are probably a good guy with good intentions, but it's things like these that make people think you're a troll. How exactly do these 2 statements you made, come from the same person if that person is telling the truth?

Sorry, I'm just confused!

 

blacks and drugs?

dude, there's tons of drugs in all cultures.

out of all cultures, I've seen Asians do the least amount of drugs.

Still, I think drugs are propular in the affluent areas and in the low-income areas. It all depends on the location.

V777, dude, how old are you?

 

Well, if I wanted to make a case for V777, I would point out that based on the two statements that you cited, you could still logically conclude that his community does indeed have a relatively small drug problem when compared to other areas even if the majority of black students were on drugs due to his implication that they represent only a very small portion of the population, which is true of the demographics in Orange County by the way. However, that's only if you want to give him a lot of leeway. I think it's pretty obvious that he's trolling.


I'm sure there are a ton of drug abusing spoiled brats in "The OC" just like the ones I grew up with.

 

Because marijauna was made illegal in the early 20th Century through a smear campaign that fed the public wrong information about the substance and has been kept in the negative ever since through propaganda.

The active chemical compound in marijuana, Tetrahydrocannibinol, or THC, is non-narcotic and non-addictive (chemically. We won't go into mental addiction, because I consider that moot since a person can be mentally addicted to anything. Like the internet).

There are no deaths per annum in the United States attributed to marijuana use or overdose, because the amount it would take someone to overdose on weed is so great that 1) you couldn't buy that much on the street, and 2) you couldn't physically ingest enough unless it were in super concentrated pill form, and even then I believe it's still next to impossible.

Marijuana is less habit-forming that sugar and chocolate.

Deaths per annum in the US associated with drugs

[SIZE=+1]tobacco=340,000-395,000 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Alcohol (not including accidents)=125,000+ [/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Drug overdose (prescription)=14,000-27,000 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Drug overdose (illegal)=3,800-5,200 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Marijuana=0

I've found different numbers, but the only on that doesn't seem to change on all the charts is that marijuana is the cause of 0 deaths annually.
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There have been studies that ruled out the "gateway drug" theory, because the most common starting point for most drug users was alcohol and tobacco use, not marijuana.

There are also studies that have been done recently and are in the process of being worked on that infer that marijuana may even be able to prevent some types of cancers in humans, though it hasn't been proven.

It's also used medicinially for many, many illnesses, like glaucoma, arthritis, stress, anxiety, depression, cancer (mostly for chemo patients to help stimulate appetite and repress nausea) and AIDS.



The "War on Drugs" in this country is largely (in my opinion) fruitless and worthless, and mostly only serves to clog our prisons with petty drug offenders tossed in because minimum sentences for drug crimes are a fucking joke. The penalties for drug possession and distribution in this country are often stiffer than the penalties for violent crimes, which makes absolutely no sense to me seeing as how I view something violent against another human being to be far worse than someone pumping themselves full of drugs, as long as the drug user isn't neglecting children in the process. But say it's just a crackhead who lives by themselves and smokes crack all the time. It's not safe. It's not healthy. But this is a choice they are making for their own body. The only person they're killing (usually) is themselves.

My ex-sister in law's husband was arrested with a large bag of pot. It was for personal use, but the amount was over the state limit to indicate distribution, so he was charged with marijuana distribution and sentenced to 3-4 years in prison.

My cousin, who was involved in a hate crime that left a poor girl tortured, beaten, and raped for a week, was sentenced to 2 years in prison.

This is wrong.

 

ya'll ppl r going to kill me but.....

Drug = something that change your perception of reality, natural or not.

= weed is a drug.

 

I wouldn't kill you darlin. You're too sweet!

That wasn't my phrase, that was katt williams (which is why I posted the video link to show it wasn't my own words).

Weed itself isn't a drug, though. It's a plant. THC (tetrahydrocannibol), a chemical substance in marijuana, is a drug.

We don't call mold on cheese a drug, but we can make penicillin from it, which is a drug. But penicillin doesn't change your perception of reality, either. But I'm thinking you don't mean just drugs in general, you mean the ones people take to get high, right?

Marijuana doesn't change your perception of reality, though. I've read about it being a mild hallucinogen if you manage to smoke/eat enough of it, but it takes so much to do that I've never had any hallucinations. My reality isn't affected when I get relaxed, laugh a lot (I laugh a lot anyway), or get sleepy. It affects me less than cold and flu medications. Nyquil gets me loopy, and I feel drunk when I take it.

 

DH, I love you and all, but weed is a drug.

Thats like saying guns dont kill people, bullets do.

Tell me, if there was no THC in weed, would you still smoke it?

 

If there were no THC in weed, would you still call it a drug?

The plant itself is not a drug. The THC -is- a drug, as I said.

Again, as I said babe, I was just quoting Katt Williams earlier. I do not believe the plant itself is a drug. I'm not saying, however, that the active chemical within the plant isn't a drug. THC is. But saying the plant itself (which is what weed refers to) is a drug is like saying a human being is a pancreas. A pancreas is just one organ that makes up our bodies, not the only thing inside us all.

I smoke weed because I'd rather not have to take antidepressants with stupid side effects. Marijuana doesn't impact my life, Zoloft would. The drug in the cannabis plant medicates me in a safer way than prescription drugs would, with less side effects and impact on my life. Weed doesn't kill people, heroin and cocaine do. You can't overdose by smoking or eating it alone, you can't get chemically addicted, and I'm not going to die if I have none to smoke. I'm not going to steal money so I can smoke. I'm not going to rob someone so I can smoke. I'm not going to lose my mind and end up in the gutter because I can't smoke. I'm certainly not going to spend money for food on weed. If I don't have it, I'm cool. If I have it, I'm better, but regardless I'm alright. I love it, but it's not the end of the world without it. I see nothing wrong with it, and the fact that it's been made illegal through lies bothers me. The fact that it's still illegal because so many people believe the lies bother me more.

But in the end it's still my choice. I do what I want with my life. If I wanted to snort coke, I would, but I'm a fairly smart individual and I know the cons far outweigh any pros (of which I personally don't see any) when it comes to cocaine.

I'm just stating the fact that the plant itself is not the drug, the chemical compound within the plant is the drug. Just because you can smoke it to get the drug in the system doesn't mean the entire plant is the drug. If you could smoke mold to get the antibiotics in your system we'd probably do that, since it would be easier and cheaper than pulling the good shit out in a lab.

You can extract the THC from the plant to make a pill form of it that gives the same effects when swallowed. Which only further proves my point that it's the THC, not the plant that is the real drug. The plant just creates it. Just like poppies and opium.

Please don't argue with me, jelly. I respect you and your opinions. I know not everyone is going to agree with my views on things, but whenever I talk about weed people who argue with me aren't generally arguing about the facts, but instead arguing about my choice to smoke it. If that's what you're getting at I hope you will please allow me to have my choice, because as with everyone else the only person who can make choices for me is me, and I am well informed on most of my choices, especially when it comes to what substances I put in my body. If it's not, then I apologize for even bringing it up. You know I like you, and you know I wouldn't try to be rude and mean to you because of that, so please don't take anything I say as rude or mean. I dunno if anything I wrote may come across that way, but if it does it certainly wasn't my intention.

People getting so up in arms about marijuana is a direct result of the slanderous campaign that has been out to smear the plant and it's THC since back in the 30s. There's so much good that can be done with it, there isn't much harm done by it, yet so many people believe it's wrong, that it's evil, that it's just as bad as the other Schedule I substances it's listed with on the DEA website. To me it is wrong that cannabis is associated with mescaline and heroin, much more dangerous substances. Public opinion is a powerful thing, and when the public believes something it's hard to convince them otherwise. I could equate it to other subjects that have been given negative images by the public, but that would likely get me flamed so I'm not going to do it at the moment. Maybe later.

 

D-H, im not arguing wth you or getting up in arms, I just asked you a simple question.

I respect anyone's decision to do what they wish to their body, I was just pointin out that the "weed is a plant" line is kinda hollow. Were it not for the THC in weed, weed would just be...a weed.

 

Exactly. Which is why it's a plant with a drug in it, not a drug itself. That's my point, darlin.

 

True, but for the sake of simplicity, the judicial system made illegal the plant which people were growing because of the drug in it.

 

No, baby, it's not illegal because of THC. It's illegal because of lies. Read the following.

http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/12/22/whyIsMarijuanaIllegal.html


From the article:

"All Mexicans are crazy, and this stuff [marijuana] is what makes them crazy."

"Marihuana influences Negroes to look at white people in the eye, step on white men's shadows and look at a white woman twice."
"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others."

"...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races."

"Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death."

"Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men."

"Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing"

"You smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother."

"Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind."

These are things that were fed to the public about marijuana.

 

I stand corrected.

Now, the question has to be asked, "should weed be legalized based on the reasons why it was criminalized?" or "despite the reasons why it was criminalized, should it remain illegal because of the drug its known to contain?"

 

Well considering the drug it contains isn't nearly as dangerous as public opinion dictates, my stance is that it should be decriminalized. Especially considering the many, many positive treatments that can come from it's medicinal use. As a recreational drug it is safer than both alcohol and tobacco, which are both completely legal. It makes no sense that it is still ranked with heroin on the legal level when it is nothing like it at all.

Weed has even been theorized to not even cause lung cancer because it is believed some substance in it can actually prevent cancer. There have been cases studied showing that people who smoke weed heavily don't generally end up with cancer, even if they smoke as much as tobacco smokers.

 

That's a nice compendium of the events leading up to the criminalization of marijuana. I got into an argument with some of my best friend's co-workers at a party a few weeks back about this issue. When I mentioned the fact that William Randolph Hearst and the DuPont Company were some of the driving forces behind the prohibition of cannabis in the U.S. because of their own business interests, a few of them laughed at me and called me a "conspiracy theorist."

 

It's a harmless plant with several legitimate medical and industrial uses. IMHO it should be decriminalized.

And if people want to use it for recreational purposes in the privacy of their homes, that's their business.

 

People are idiots. It's not a conspiracy theory, if one does the proper research the information is right there. I learned about all this when I was in college the first time and I had to do a speech on marijuana. So I went to the campus library and found the Encyclopedia of Drug Use and read all about how pot became illegal.

All a person has to do is read. Most people don't want to find out information on their own, however, they just want information to be given to them. Whether it's true or not is besides the point.

 

I agree, weed and heroin clearly are not in the same class.

Personally, I think weed should be treated like alcohol. In the privacy of your home, do what you like. But no smoking while on the clock or while operating any motor vechicles. If you do, you should have the hammer dropped on you.