What is the cause of society's changing views today on IR?

IR movies and shows featuring BM & WW are done to INCITE and PISS people off more than to promote tolerance..

 

Why do you think that ?

 

I'm on flaminghetero's side about the movies. Controversy is a cash-cow in this nation, especially in regards to religion, politics, and most of all, race-relations, which is why you see all of these ignorant books to hit the shelves of bookstores, like 'Why Black Men love White Women', 'The Interracial guide to Black Women and White Men dating', 'It ain't all good: Why Black Men shouldn't date White Women', and so on.

 

But why would they make such books and movies to make people angry?

 

I am totally with you Sardonic and Flaming, these stereotypes of black men and white women in sexual exploitive situations incite the racists and bigots, because decent folk arent watching them for the most part. They dont talk about the issues that we face as people of color or of IR relationships, its only about what White Men in the US and Europe have th ought of IR relationships which is that it is all about Sex and not about normal relationships.

also many black men have bought into it too and they just go out to have a white woman sexually but not for a relationship. this too puts a strain on race relations as it feeds the arguement by Black Women that Black men are in IRs for the easy sex, while white women are seen as easy, slutty, and playing the jungle fever role of angering her white father.

 

[quote='Sup.]But why would they make such books and movies to make people angry?[/quote]

With all due respect, I just already explained it...

and, yes, tucker, the Ugly Ducklings and Black Bulls helped to enforce this sort of ignorance in the racists, and you would think that these rednecks and white supremacists are ignorant enough, but oh, no, let's make them even worse! :roll:

 

I could pull up a list of websites right now where it's more than other way around, but you're still right. It's not just the black men like people foolishly make it out to be, which is a form of racism to do so. No offense.

 

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With all due respect, I just already explained it...
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So you think they make such things because issues like this sell a lot ? and will make more money ?
Lol I know you have said your reason, I just did not fully get what you had said :roll:

 

Sup i know you are not from the US, but have you not as a German heard of propaganda films? Nazi Germany made alot of propaganda films about jews and slavs to get the people to turn on them and hate them.

in the US, the film industry from the beginning with the movie Birth of a Nation, made films to control the population and create societal mores

many many films and media outlets were writing to instill the fear of the Blacks who if having too much power or any at all would rape their women, steal and kill whites. We had lynchings(hanging of black people) just for looking or smiling at a white woman by black men adn the media was the tool to still the Black Menace!

come on, you guys dont have history books of Blacks around the world in Germany? you should try your local bookstore on go on line

 

[quote='Sup.]

With all due respect, I just already explained it...
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So you think they make such things because issues like this sell a lot ? and will make more money ?
Lol I know you have said your reason, I just did not fully get what you had said :roll:[/quote]

You know about the history of American slavery, and the Hitler's Third Reich, I take it? Events such as that are the foundation of race-related issues, like black men and white women having sexual relations with one another, and this country we live in is a very capitalistic, Euro-centric, and Conservative, Christian nation, so yes, issues like race-relations (dating, sex, friendship) will sell, as long as they are meant to keep the melting pot stirred up.

Read tucker's explanation carefully. He has already explained it even further.

 

Yes I see. But if they are making these things to make people hate and turn on a minority of people like the jews. Surely this is different to making something for example books for black men and white woman in relationships? I think it used to be like that, but today it has changed the other way and is now against majorities. Not against but I mean pushing for things like this where they did not 50 years ago.

 

[quote='Sup.]Yes I see. But if they are making these things to make people hate and turn on a minority of people like the Jews. Surely this is different to making something for example books for black men and white woman in relationships? I think it used to be like that, but today it has changed the other way and is now against majorities. Not against but I mean pushing for things like this where they did not 50 years ago.[/quote]

Actually, Sup, it is mainly used to incite the majorities today, judging by the way relations between black men and white women are depicted in mass media, Internet sex sites, and romance novels.

 

This naive little white girl is still sitting here with a confused look on her face. More IR seen in the media is to piss everyone off??? I'm still a little skeptical. Are you sure you aren't coming at this with a bit of paranoia?(spoken within the context of a naive midwestern girl under the influence of white privilege, but hasn't been sheltered to the ways of the world concerning race)

 

Like we said, the way it is portrayed is meant to stir up fervent feelings in those who aren't accepting of interracial relationships, as for yet. Not to say that this is always the case, but with a nation like this with race-relations being a traditional obsession, along with capitalism intervening, you can't completely rule it out...

and, why would it start happening NOW, like I asked earlier before, if the influence of it was only meant to gain acceptance in society of IR?

 

The day I stop getting stared at curiously for walking round with my boyfriend, will be the day that I believe that IR relationships are as much the 'norm' as any other.

 

Ha! Ha! The media going against societal norms in order to bring social awareness and conscience??? No way am I saying that. I think it is pure capitalism. There are more IR than before so the greed of money creates tv and movies with IR present.

"why would it start happening NOW" - my response to that question would be the same question in return. Why use IR to rouse up feelings of racism-why is that tactic used now? It is not the same as Bigger Thomas-style witch hunts because IR couples are shown to be similar to everyday non-IR couples.

Believe me, I am a bit of a conspiracy theorist but I am not in FULL agreement with your arguement. Oh, and disclaimer still applies.

 

I agree that maybe never will IR relationships be the norm. But I glance too, not stare, but glance. But my glance is an approving glance.

I, however, am in my own little world when I am out in public with a bm. I expect a second look when I'm out in public and it doesn't phase me. I actually find the sneering to be a bit thrilling - and I hold my head high.

 

OK, so you see some of my point.

It's a tactic used to create controversy, which in return, breeds a bigger profit margin, as I have already mentioned before.

Not sure what this last statement is getting at, but, sure.

 

Views on BM/WW relationships have never changed and never will. Things are more tolerant, but that is about it. Albeit Racism, has very little to do with the situation and is often used as an mask which deviates from the gravity of the real situation. I also assert, BM/WW relationships will ONLY be tolerant to an certain extent. Whilst 'people' talk about acceptance of this and that of BM/WW relationships, they forget the COMMON DENOMINATOR. I take this from personal opinion and experience; the fortitude of temperance becomes repugnant to white men when see their 'Goddess' around the arms of someone they find less then Human. Bottom line, it is all about competition for Resources, Survival of the Fittest. The best way to keep social order, is to 'kill off' competition is by making seem less then human. Media of course, has done an excellent job of that.