Weapons: what do you think?

...and sounds like it's very true! :-S

Nice to see that I'm not alone. I was starting to think sadly: "why did I make this thread?". I completely agree with you.

Exactly. Also, if you own a gun, you are more likely to use it in situations of confusion/panik.

 

Actually, it's a rather small % of people who legally own guns. I don't have the statistic, perhaps someone here more educated on that can provide that fact.

The majority of citizens support the right to bear arms even if they do not want to themselves.

Believe it or not, most people are very apprehensive about using a gun in a "panic" situation. It's the last resort. A logical, sane individual DOES NOT want to use it. Most people like them for sport, i.e. gun ranges, hunting.

 

Honestly, the villains actions (and intentions) are usually discounted if they are dead.....and the man who did nothing but defend himself is persecuted.And THATS where the problem lies.

I believe a person who's waving a weapon of any kind in your direction is implying a threat. People are not trained (nor is it human nature) to render the benefit of the doubt and assume "he's just after my rolex" or "he means me no bodily harm". Weapons like knifes, guns etc, are usually concealed for a reason... This is why the basic principle is "You do not pull it out UNLESS you INTEND to use it". If a couple young thugs, or a couple old grannies, or any other person approached me brandishing/pointing/displaying me their guns, then I WILL assume its not to exchange opinions on the 2009 super bowl. If they have it out, they intend to use it, plain and simple. So my life is on the line and I have THE "right" to protect my life. The famous "fight or flight" adrenaline occurs but since I am only human (maybe superhuman), I cannot out-run a bullet (Ive tried).....so its kill or be killed in most cases.

If I choose not to give away the valuables I worked hard for, do you think they will shoot my leg and ask politely?? and what if they missed my leg and hit my balls??...haha.. either way, they are approaching and/or trespassing MY HOUSE with a DEADLY weapon, and its not in me to be punked in my own home so........:smt070die mofuckaz DIE!!!:smt070

 

artyman:LMAO! That sums it up for me.

 

I'm a ninja. I only use my sword, throwing stars, smoke bombs, and my magic scrolls.

 

I love when people make statements without citing anything to corroborate their claims.

According to the Brady Campaign State Scorecard Rankings, the states with the strongest gun control laws are, broadly, in the North. California is the highest with a score of 79; Maryland is the only "Southern" state in the top five.

http://www.bradycampaign.org/media/release.php?release=1105

PDF:

http://www.stategunlaws.org/xshare/pdf/scorecard/2008/2008_scorecard_rankings.pdf

If you scroll down, you'll find that most states with the least restrictive gun control laws are in the South.

According to the FBI, the states with highest murder rates are also in the South. The regional data states that for 2006 there were 2,455 murders in the Northeast, 3,307 murders in the Midwest, 3,905 in the West, and 7,367 murders in the South.

Note: Murders in California dropped from 2,503 in 2005 to 2,485 in 2006. The data for 2007 and 2008 are still in their preliminary stages.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/data/table_04.html

 

**yawn** As I stated earlier:

http://www.theacru.org/blog/2007/05/harvard_study_gun_control_is_counterproductive/

The study, which just appeared in Volume 30, Number 2 of the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy (pp. 649-694), set out to answer the question in its title: "Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide? A Review of International and Some Domestic Evidence." Contrary to conventional wisdom, and the sniffs of our more sophisticated and generally anti-gun counterparts across the pond, the answer is "no." And not just no, as in there is no correlation between gun ownership and violent crime, but an emphatic no, showing a negative correlation: as gun ownership increases, murder and suicide decreases.

 

Yes, definitely enough to refute compiled statistics from the FBI.

What was I thinking?

 

Apparently satyricon is getting tired of losing debates vs me since he is resorting to sending negative rep.

Not a very mature or gentlemanly way to express disagreements.

Man up.

 

Thank you kind 'Sir'

 

..unfortunately, that is to be expected.

 

Just returning the favor.

My comment:

"Keep posting bullshit and I'll keep shooting it down."

That goes for any of you.

 

Nope. I have never sent negative rep to you or anyone else based on a disagreement on some policy. That is kid stuff.

Also, I have the balls to sign my rep. You clearly don't.

Apparently someone else didn't like your comments.

 

...I'm assuming that gay-ass remark was intended for me. When someone doesn't agree with your punkass, they have a right to express their opinion or perspective you dyck.

I don't pretend to be an expert on gun-laws or statistics, I clearly stated that. Was that the premise of this thread asshole? No.

I support ANY law-abiding individual who chooses to own a firearm whether it's for sport or self-defense.

Perhaps you need to learn to respect the thoughts of others and learn to control that gayass condescending attitude.

...carry-on

 

You shouldn't pretend to be an expert on anything.

If you insist.

 

Posing is one thing I don't do. You would have more familiarity with that, hence your diva-like demeanor.

 

Guns in the hands of private, responsible citizens is not the problem.

What is really damaging is when immature or unthinking people glorify gun violence acted out by criminals, right satyricon?:

http://whitewomenblackmen.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10214

 

:smt023OOOPPSS! LOL! Looks like Mr. High & Mighty was lacking his critical thinking on this one. Talks sooo much shit, then wham, shoot yourself in the foot.

 

I believe you are within your right to defend yourself or a loved one, but find it problematic to justify killing someone for stealing your property.

No and don't intend to own any in the future.

To reiterate, addressing the reason(s) why certain people would want to do you harm involves acknowledging social problems that require more time and energy than purchasing a firearm.

Only waterguns.

 

This is why I wouldn't have any kind of firearm in my house, even if it were locked up kids have a way of getting into everything:

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/06/18/us/children-shooting-children-move-is-on-for-gun-control.html
http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/06/05/news/doc48473e857091a953151505.txt
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1604249.ece
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TImOqmwgmco
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-153826/Seven-year-old-Canadian-girl-shoots-brother-dead.html
http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/516917.html

There are literally hundreds of these stories. I just can't see anything positive coming from a gun. Instead of owning one (which is actually illegal here anyway), I'd rather make sure my home is more secure in a good area and be careful where I am out at night.

Here's a poem about how we're always finding new ways of killing people, although it's more about war I still find it appropriate: http://www.davidpbrown.co.uk/poetry/edwin-brock.html

Personally, I have no intention to ever kill someone and could never live with it, so yeah, no reason to own a gun or carry a knife outdoors. With all the teen murders here in the UK I wish other kids would stop feeling the need to resort to weapons for protection. I know I'm a little naive before someone says it.