Unemployed Black Man win senate primary

Discussion in 'In the News' started by z, Jun 11, 2010.

  1. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Alvin Greene has been on the phone all day. That's to be expected for the guy who just won South Carolina's Democratic Senate primary and is facing
    incumbent Republican Jim DeMint in November. But everyone calling Greene has just been trying to find out who the heck he is — and one thing reporters learned Tuesday is that a criminal complaint was sworn out against him last year for allegedly showing obscene photos to a South Carolina college student and suggesting they go to her dorm room.

    Greene, a 32-year-old unemployed military veteran who lives with his parents, defeated Vic Rawl on Tuesday for the Democratic Senate nomination despite having run essentially no

    public campaign — no events, no signs, no debates, no website, no fundraising.

    The result has baffled political observers, who had heavily favored Rawl — a former state legislator, attorney and prosecutor who had the edge inasmuch as he actually campaigned and tried to win. Many in South Carolina (which has grandly lived up to its reputation as a political circus this year) suspect that somewhere, a crafty GOP political operative is snickering.

    As far as the local political press can discern, the only positive step Greene took toward campaigning was when he plunked down a $10,400 check in March to satisfy the state's filing fee and get on the ballot. He never registered a campaign committee with the Federal Election Commission or filed a financial disclosure with the Senate Ethics Committee.

    So why did he run, and how did he win? "I campaigned," Greene, who spoke rapidly and seemed distracted, told Yahoo! News in a brief interview. "It was a low-budget campaign. I funded it 100 percent out of my own pocket, and kept it simple — it was old-fashioned." Asked what, precisely, that campaign consisted of, and how much he spent on it, Greene demurred. "Not much. I had friends helping me."

    He said he hasn't yet reached the $5,000 spending limit that triggers a requirement to file with the FEC, despite having spent that $10,400 filing fee (a pretty penny for someone with no job). Like any good politician, Greene tried to deflect questions about the particulars of his campaign to talk of "the issues."

    "I graduated from the University of South Carolina," he said. "We have more unemployment than any other time in South Carolina history. Hold on, I have another beep."

    Shortly after his Yahoo! News interview, the Associated Press reported that Greene was arrested in November on the obscene photo complaint. Charges are pending, and he hasn't entered a plea. One could, of course, note that such charges wouldn't necessarily hurt a candidate in a Palmetto state election season that's featured plenty of sensational sexual charges.

    Greene's candidacy has raised suspicions that he may have been induced to run by Republican operatives in order to sow dissension in the Democratic ranks. It's not uncommon in

    South Carolina for Republicans to recruit African-American challengers to run against white frontrunners in Democratic primaries in the hope of drumming up racial tensions. (Greene is black.) The straw candidates aren't supposed to win — they're just supposed to create a racially divisive primary to damage the candidate's ability to put together a coalition in the general election.

    It's nothing new to Nu Wexler, the former executive director of the

    South Carolina Democratic Party. "In 2004, on the last day you could file to run in the primary, we were wrapping things up when an SUV with a Bush-Cheney sticker dropped off three black guys who came in to file to run in some local races, and they all paid the filing fee with sequentially numbered cashier's checks from a local credit union," he said. In 1990, famed South Carolina political consultant Rod Shealy was convicted of violating campaign laws after recruiting a black candidate to run in a GOP primary for lieutenant governor in the hope of drawing out racist voters — a maneuver he thought would bolster support for his candidate.

    Greene denies that he's a plant. But even if he is, the lack of an actual campaign seems to indicate that whatever plan he might have been a part of was quickly abandoned. Wexler says there may never have even been much of a strategy: "You have consultants doing this kind of thing just because they get bored, and they want something to tell good stories about. It's almost like fraternity pranks."

    Greene's success is a testament both to the lackluster quality of the campaign run by Rawl (who raised $186,000 and ran ads) and to the, um, peculiar voting habits of South Carolinians.

    State Democratic Party Chairwoman Carol Fowler speculated to AP that Greene won because his name came before Rawl's on the ballot. Wexler says Greene is a "big name in South Carolina."

    We called the South Carolina Democratic Party to ask if it intends to support Greene's candidacy, but haven't heard back. It could attempt to challenge Greene's win by claiming that he didn't pay the filing fee out of his own pocket — which, if true, would be a

    federal crime. "It puts them in a tough position," Wexler said. "You can't exactly start challenging the filing fees of every candidate."
     
  2. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    That was really informative thanks for posting fam
     
  3. z

    z Well-Known Member

    I smell a rat here, it is fishy. It is got to be plant or something, lol talk about the manchurian candidate


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  4. BlackMasterJay

    BlackMasterJay Well-Known Member

    A liar, a pervert, un employed and cant create a coherent sentence (let alone a diplomatic one)

    Two words: Sock Puppet
     
  5. z

    z Well-Known Member

    SNL is going to have a Field day...

    "60 % is not luck, maybe 51 %, 60% is not luck, it is a decisive vote"

    "No comment, no comment"

    "The people have spoken. The people of South Carolina have spoken. We have to be pro-South Carolina. The people of South Carolina have spoken. We have to be pro-South Carolina."

    Bwahahahahhahahaha
     
  6. Raul Sinclair

    Raul Sinclair New Member

    This is very odd, but i guess wierder things in politics have happened. Like George Bush Jr. getting elected President. They do need to investigate, something here doesnt seem kosher
     
  7. raocha

    raocha Active Member

    These kinds of shenanigans happen all the time in local races where the districts hold open primaries or at-large elections. The only thing surprising about this case is that these cretins were brazen enough to pull this in a race for a U.S. Senate seat.
     
  8. z

    z Well-Known Member

    agreed. We are talkng about U.S. Senate seat and the state is a confederate flag waving southern state, and may I add the man is unemployed + black. How the heck did they pull this shenanigan?
    How many black US senator did we have since reconstruction? I beleive 4, only four, wow.
     
  9. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    How do you get him out of being a canidate? He won 60%. People are just crazy in that state. WITH ALL the luck in the world, I hope he wins the general elections.
     
  10. z

    z Well-Known Member

    The guy cant even put a coherent sentence together. In fact if you ask me he is an embarassment to blk politicians. some democratic leaders and black politicians already asked him to bow out.
    I wonder if he was always this slow or got dumbed down in the army after some freak accident?
    He was in the air force as well, I do not know how he got in and what position that he served.
     
  11. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member


    yea, he does speak a bit slow but he got the votes. Unless they could prove that the republicans put Greene on there, then he has the candidate position. South Carolina isn't known for having good candidates. We have the governor who was" hiking in the mountains". His LT. governor that made remarks about not feeding poor children in school.
     
  12. z

    z Well-Known Member

    According to media, he never campaigned, does not have a cell phone, a computer, did not have a banner or spend a dime on the race. He goes to the public library to check his email.
    The vote- south carolina primary, it is an open vote. Anyone can vote for anyone. You do not have to vote along the party lines, so the repubs could have come in thousands to vote for him.
    I mean c'mon the guy faces felony charges due to porn. He went to his alma mater computer lab six months ago and was showing some porn pics to this unattractive WW (college student) and asking her to go to her dorm. Who does that?
     
  13. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    I am not saying that this isn't fishy but that there needs to be proof. If there isn't proof, then they are stuck with him and will have to get behind him.
     
  14. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    I said the same thing.
     
  15. Iggy

    Iggy Banned

    This is a joke right? The whole fiasco seems like a bad skit on the Dave Chapelle Show or something lol
     

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