[YOUTUBE]afIX0xPxL-g[/YOUTUBE] [YOUTUBE]_g7qgvE6eBA[/YOUTUBE] the one statement he made how fast you should go in doing the exercise...he responded slow and in control. I agree in any exercise you shgould do thing with control (speed is not important. if you can do it fast then you may need to increase lbs. Im a novice so dont take my word on that. it just seems like common sense to me). [YOUTUBE]vZ02QXFuWFc[/YOUTUBE] Im not sure about not using the pad but I will try his method. [YOUTUBE]0Ip4sLoqjbM&feature=related[/YOUTUBE] ====================================================== what other tricep workout do you have ?