Trayvon Martin's Murder

Discussion in 'In the News' started by goodlove, Mar 8, 2012.

  1. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member


    The night of the shooting. He was 5'8 and 200 pounds.

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/05/17/us/trayvon-martin-documents.html?_r=0

    check page 4 of the police report.

    the day of the arrest he was 184 pounds.
    http://cfnews13.com/content/dam/new...ents/george-zimmerman-booking-report-0412.pdf
     
  2. jaisee

    jaisee Well-Known Member

    I actually take no issue with someone attempting to change my mind on an issue, I just expect a pretty compelling statement as to why I should. However, one completely discredits himself when they take a zealot-like dogmatic approach such as he does and quotes and underlines everything that is said that supports his own stance whilst proclaiming it to be an indisputable truth. While at the same time completely rejecting any possibility of truth in the rebuttal from those who have differing views.
     
  3. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

  4. Archman

    Archman Well-Known Member

    Dude will continue to live his life in the stand-your-ground state of Florida...far from your in Dog-eat-Dog city life of the Bronx, ......Dude will also protect his Business relationships he has forged for 16 years...... if the many whitemen who rely on me for their construction plans and on my professional judgement to sheppard along their structural projects, are all my masters, then I will take my chances and stay on the plantation as a modern day slave.........At least here, un-like your city of 46% of blackmale employment, there is work, if your have skill...... in your city of 7 million, I can also see how easy is can be to get lost and forgotten in the shuffle as a number and as a disgruntled black with a chip on his shoulder......
     
  5. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Thanks. The first link I could view, however my PDF viewer showed dark screen for me. So I looked it up.

    Zimmerman's height is reported 5? 7? (1.70 m); and his weight is recorded as being 185 lb (84 kg) on his Seminole County Sheriff's Office Inmate Booking Information dated April 11, 2012

    So my error, had it back to front, he was indeed 200pds that night.

    I'm also seeing on the police report Trayvon's height at 6ft, 160 pounds. Victim: Juvenile (page 2 of 4)

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/86400326/trayvon-martin-police-report

    So in a nutshell, 3 or 4 inches taller/shorter, 40 pound less/more and 9 yrs younger/older separated them that night. Oh, and a gun.
     
  6. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member


    And he can't figure out why it is he catches heat from just about everyone here. We are just some intolerant individuals here in "Enemy Territory".:smt017
     
  7. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    The police report literally assigns juvenile to the kid and yet Bookie is fighting to make him look like a man or adult. They further more assign adult to all the adults. Even the police saw him as a non adult.
     
  8. Archman

    Archman Well-Known Member

    Jaisee,
    Just like your comrade, your are wasting precious time scrutinizing my style..... I will tell you like I told him, don't digress,.... speak to the substance of the piece, what can you refute about those points......
     
  9. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member

    He can & did refute several points in her piece. And as he has stated you have & will continue to ignore that bit of fact because it doesn't fit your reality.
     
  10. Archman

    Archman Well-Known Member

    Who besides You, Jaisee and TDK am I catching heat from??....I can debate you 3, if you can keep it on topic and...... not personal...
     
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  11. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    I was going to say something to those words but realised that there is no point
     
  12. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    Exactly. It's a waste of time and energy to bother.
     
  13. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member

    (Sigh)......I have no reason to or interest in trying to debate you, because again since you refuse to acknowledge reality, you keep ignoring that unlike you I'm not trying to convince you or anyone else of anything. Believe what you want. Just stop crapping on everyone else's opinions & views that differ from your own in your futile attempt to prove your perceived superiority.
     
  14. Gorath

    Gorath Well-Known Member

    Like I posted before, "Intellect, these days is like saber rattling."
     
  15. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    I don't know about you, but when I was a teenager, I was afraid of and respectful of grown men, regardless of whether I was taller or not. Even now, I can pretty well assess true menace and am not quick to try someone just because they're shorter. I'm 6'0" and I know plenty of diesel 5'8" grown men who will kick my ass. And I'm a grown man myself.

    It would be great if the conversation could stay elevated above personal attacks and hostility. I try not to insult the people on the rightwing of the political spectrum. If I have, it was never my intent.
     
  16. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    This is what George Zimmerman looked like the night he killed Trayvon.

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    I don't know about Florida, but MS-13 is a major Latino gang presence in Northern Virginia and D.C. I've always said that IMO Zimmerman looked like a straight up 'banger with the shaved head, goatee and red jacket he was wearing.

    Nothing about him says neighborhood watch captain. Trayvon was right; George looked like a big time fucking CREEP.

    There's no way I would be calm knowing this character was following me.

    According to Zimmerman, the only word he said to Trayvon was 'nope'.
    Do people really think Trayvon should have calmly explained to this stranger why he was in the neighborhood and given him his address for reference??lol

    From my experience when you roll up on a stranger and you DON'T SPEAK and you're in too close in their personal space, a fight is about to go down.

    Zimmerman whether he realizes it or not did everything to provoke a confrontation that night, which is exactly what he got.

    There's no way Trayvon Martin was the more intimidating presence that night.
     
  17. Stinkmeaner

    Stinkmeaner New Member

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  18. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    I love how no one understands our historically-shaped challenges, pathologies and deficiencies, but they understand perfectly the Irish v. English oppression, the Poles v. Russians & Germans, the Yugoslavian ethnic tension leading to the meltdown in the 90s. Their violence and social breakdown make sense. Ours? Oh we're just effing animals. Or we're not taking 'responsibility' for ourselves.
     
  19. Stinkmeaner

    Stinkmeaner New Member

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  20. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    The lady doth protest too much lol
     

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