Time for Obama to pull the trigger on the 14th Amendment

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by hellified, Jul 31, 2011.

  1. hellified

    hellified Active Member

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    At this point President Obama should invoke the14th Amendment and raise the debt ceiling by himself. He should do it 9 am Monday morning just before the markets open and in a brief press conference recount how this came to pass. How both sides can't agree, how the republicans choose to use the debt ceiling as a point of contention even though they voted to raise it 74 times in the past including 5 times in the previous administration. He may as well do it and let the GOP take it to court, shit its not like they don't have other cases there that's against the administration anyway.

    And yet again we see the Obama Administration and democrats compromising more than their counterparts across the aisle. At this point all that's being discussed is how much the poor and middle class are going to have to sacrifice in program and entitlement cuts. No tax revenues, no closing tax loopholes and no tax hikes on the rich. So what sacrifices are the rich and super rich making? On top of that McConnell's bullshit plan is being incorporated into Reid's plan so basically the Republicans have again controlled the tone and tenor of the debate.

    Even if they strike a "deal" in the end it wouldn't be worth all the bullshit that was riled up over the past 3 weeks. If a deal is struck sometime today it will be something that will have more republican components than democrat and won't be anywhere near fair and balanced. When this is done no one should pat themselves on the back or act like they accomplished something. There's still no jobs plan from either party and all of this fighting did nothing but upset the markets for the last week.

    Obama should bypass all this bullshit and pull the trigger on the 14th Amendment and make them hash it out over the rest of the summer.

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  2. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member

    Agreed. There isn't a spine, a set of testicles or a set of ovaries in Washington.
     
  3. bodhesatva

    bodhesatva Well-Known Member

    Has Obama indicated that it's even a possibility? I haven't gotten that impression. I get the feeling this new "compromise" is going to sail through.

    I'd love to be wrong, of course.
     
  4. hellified

    hellified Active Member

    the GOP threatened to impeach him if he does and he says he's talked to his lawyers and "its not a winning argument" but thats Obama doing what he's always done play it safe and be pragmatic.
     
  5. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    Totally agree. No downside for BHO, they elected him to govern so he'd be governing. Raising the debt ceiling is business as usual until the black guy comes in. He needs to use the same balls it took to shoot bin Laden. Fuck the GOP they had their chance.
     
  6. creolelad2009

    creolelad2009 New Member

    This tentative deal we saw tonight on TV is nothing more than a continuation of an on-going ponzi scheme. It's called quantitative easing (QE). It's a debt-derivative phase where the banks are given bailout money while the stimulus money is being used to jump-start volatility in the stock market. It encourages more investing for a chance at profits that would not come otherwise in a depression like this one. That's the good news. The bad news ( and truth) is that through stimulus, the American taxpayer is raped of his/her monies as it is funneled to off-shore foreign banks. It's also funneled into the Big Six Banks when their bailout monies expire and they need more money to stay afloat. As this destructive phase continues to destroy countries like America, the dollar is undervalued and marginalized greatly to the point of extinction.

    To the people who think the raising of the debt ceiling was a good thing, I got news for you. It's all a part of a diabolical scheme by the off-shore bank cartels to bring America into servitude. Your government is already bought off by these power elite, rich families. And to them, you are nothing but collateral. It's time we all awaken to the truth and fight these people.

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  7. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

  8. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member

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    BTW...the donkey in that picture looks like he's enjoying playing the bottom. :-(
     
  9. Tony Soprano

    Tony Soprano Moderator

    Bill Maher said it best when he described both parties as one having no brains and the other having no balls. smh
     
  10. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    I can't tell whether this is sarcastic or not. LOL
     
  11. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Does it matter? If you haven't figures out by now that govrnment could give a fuck less about the people then pass me what your smoking lol
     
  12. flaminghetero

    flaminghetero Well-Known Member

    All that stuff is on Wall Street.

    I don't see how any half-assed intelligent person can't see that.

    Obama is corporate-owned puppet just like all those puppets before him.
     
  13. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

    The government is there to protect us from the terrorist who hate our prosperity and freedom.
     
  14. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    You better puff twice before you try to pass that shit kid lol
     
  15. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

    How about winning the war on drugs instead, you ruffian? All those who seek to profit from illegal substances need to be sent to jail.
     
  16. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    Again I can't figure out if that's sarcastic or not...:smt043
     
  17. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry. I'm suffering from "Post Debt Ceiling Crisis Disorder" or has it passed yet?? :smt119
     
  18. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    :smt038
     
  19. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Anyone else feeling betrayed by our government? This is sickening. We do need to march on Washington.
     
  20. APPIAH

    APPIAH Well-Known Member

    WTF? you mean there is a 14th amendment he could use to to stop this crap and he isn't using it? I wish i could say WTF in Swahili so his grandmother in Kenya would understand my frustration with this idealistic black guy who think life should be perfect always. Smgdmfh:cool:
     

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