Tiger Woods New $40-Million Pad in Florida

I agree with Jordan that staying home with your children is a privilege and an honor, and I am someone who has had to think about paying alimony. Alimony and child support are two separate issues in my mind. I'm against the former, and in favor of the later.

 

As someone who doesn't have children this might seem like an easy answer Andrae, but I assure you it's not an easy thing to leave your child to be raised by a stranger. I applaud parents who stay home with their children, it's a hard choice that typically involves a major financial sacrifice, but I have no doubt children benefit from that time with their parents immeasurably.

 

But it is a choice and if you don't want to take the career hit don't have them. I'm just not ok with the idea that nature chose you to have kids so I should be liable for it. That's not right to me. Well like you said prenup prenup prenup.

The courts have absolutely ruined something that was suppose to be a beautiful expression of love.

 

I don't think most women who choose to stay home with their kids consider how the career hit will affect them if their spouse leaves them at some point. Most people go into marriage with optimism.

You've previously indicated that you aren't opposed to child support, and that it's alimony that you object to. I agree on both counts. I also agree anyone getting married that doesn't want to share everything they own and everything they've earned should have a prenup just in case. I wouldn't object to signing one and I wouldn't marry someone who objected to it. So I fail to see what you and I have left to discuss on this subject, looks to me like we are in agreement on all major points?

 

Andrae dear, your opinion in this is seriously messed up.... but you do have a right to it.
I kinda think your opinion will change the day you really want to have kids (IF you do), then you will firecely want them to have the best upbringing possible.. not view them as something you are "libale" for.
Of course you are libale for them - hello. If you want both parents to work, the day you have those kids - make sure beforehand that your woman is on the same page as you - very simple solution. What others do, is really not anything you should spend any energy on. Many men want their wife to stay at home to take care of the kids, thats their prerogative.

But I think this discussion has become Chinese Water Torture.

 

I know. I was trying to keep the argument simple.

I would never look to get rich off of someone else, and that's why I don't have a problem with a pre-nup. I just hate this feeling that I get when we have some of these debates that all women are just looking to get rich quick. I really resent that feeling that the board sometimes gives.

I think that in certain situations that alimony is justified. I think that you have to take it on a case-by-case basis.

As far as choosing to stay at home with your kids, people do it because they feel that they have an obligation to raise their children and not leave it for someone else to do. It is a choice, but it is a choice that both spouses make together and I don't feel one spouse should be penalized for doing something that they both agreed upon.

I have a friend that was a nurse. She married and quit her job because he asked her to so that she would be at home for the kids. She gave up her license and became the stay at home mom and the 'trophy' wife for all his business dealings. After 10 years of marriage, she was diagnosed with a malignant brain tumor and was having serious health problems. He left her for another woman and cancelled her health insurance. She can't get health insurance now because of all her pre-existing conditions, and she can't work because of her health. He has left her with nothing. Someone tell me where the justice is in that.

 

There is none GG. I don't understand people who have so little regard for other human beings. I wouldn't treat a stranger that badly, it's really disgusting.

BTW, good to see you posting and I hope you and your family are doing well.

 

Ok I agree that's royally fucked up but I doubt its the norm but as you and Espy said we're all beating a dead horse so I gracefully bow out.

 

I know. He makes me sick. I couldn't believe that her ex tried to befriend me on Facebook. He has some nerve.

Thanks, sweetie. I was having a bad day, and Andrae's post struck a chord so I decided to release some of my bad day out in this thread.

I can live with that. :smt023

 

If a woman were to give up her career for the sake of family and then get divorced, then yes, she should receive a settlement that is commensurate with what she would have made had she continued to work.

However, this hypothetical situation isn't relevant to any conversation about the Woods' divorce. Elin Woods was not an up-and-coming professional who forsook her career to bear her husband's children, nor did she have anything to do with the family's income. She was just a good looking nanny who lucked into marrying one of the most famous athletes in the world. Let's be real here, Tiger made hundreds of millions before he was married and would have continued to make the same amount of money if he were married to another woman or had he remained single.

The women who have made the case that Elin Woods deserves the lion's share of her husband's fortune in this thread are doing so purely out of anger and spite. I don't condone the way that Tiger has conducted himself, but there's no way his infidelity should cost him what he's worked his entire life for.

 

I agree. She should receive whatever her prenup calls for, and that's it. It's a legally binding contract. If it contains an infidelity clause then that will obviously come into play here. If it doesn't, then the infidelity shouldn't have an impact on the final settlement.

 

I think the converstation here ceased being about Elin and Tiger and changed over to divorce/marriage and kids in general about 3 posts in. :smt042

Who knows what Elin deserves or many other men or women who divorce. Some things are very hard to put a price on. I think about sitting in a meeting once and a woman got an interuption and got up and said she had to leave. As it turns out it was her daycare saying come and pick up your child as they are sick and infecting the others. Those kinds of things and not being able to work late, travel on a whim or transfer around the country freely influence an employer to put you on the "slow track". Yet someone has to attend to the child's needs.

How can you ever dole out penny for penny what each person brought to the relationship. I am not talking about the amount on the bank deposit slips but many other factors. No wonder people walk away from divorces with more or less than they deserve it is a slippery slope to fairness in dividing things up.

Raocha nice post.

 

Ok so pre nup prenup prenup

 

Wow that's a little much fam.

 

Where were they married? California

If so, I believe California Law says a partner is entitled to half of the income. unless Pre-nup, but then if one is unfaithful it might change.

Good luck Tiger, should've got some prostitutes and not fucked around with some regular hoes looking for some fame and money.

 

So is 760 million.

 

Fair enough. People have killed for less.

 

They weren't married in California, nor did they ever reside there as a couple. She attempted to file for divorce there because of the stringent community property rules.

 

I have to laugh at all the speculation about what people think Elin Woods will get and what some people think she "deserves".

I'm guessing she has led a pretty comfortable lifestyle on Tiger Woods' money, much more than she ever could have on her own money (I'm sure that never entered her mind pre-marriage). I also am fairly certain there would be a pre-nup contract signed with that much money at stake, with conditions attached such as infidelity, considerations for future children, etc.

It's likely the reason she hasn't dissolved the marriage yet, despite all this "hardship" he has caused her, is because under the terms of the pre-nup, duration of the marriage will likely net her more cash. So she stays in to make more money.

A rich guy should never get married and if he does he should have a rock solid contract in place... I didn't buy "Abbey Road" by the Beatles so Heather Mills could get half of the proceeds. And Elin Nordgren never won a Masters or US Open. With the money and lifestyle these women inherited by marrying the men they did, they should show their gratitude and bring these guys a sexy new women to bed every night, if we're going to be giving people what they "deserve".