This woman knows she was nice in Malcolm X.

Discussion in 'In the Media' started by MP1983, Feb 11, 2006.

  1. MP1983

    MP1983 New Member

    Kate Vernon

    She played Sophia. Canadian actress. 8)
     
  2. LA

    LA Well-Known Member

    I think Spike did a great job casting for the film. It's a very impacting movie.
     
  3. MP1983

    MP1983 New Member

    The best part is that it dispelled alot of ignorance about Malcolm X. After reading the book and watching the film, I found out how ignorant I was about him and the NOI in general. Particularly from reading is autobiography.
     
  4. LA

    LA Well-Known Member

    I just saw that movie recently and... wow... Sophia[Kate] is absolutely stunning. I'm in awe with her pretty eyes.
     
  5. MP1983

    MP1983 New Member

    Yep.... :D
     
  6. LA

    LA Well-Known Member

    Everytime I think about this movie, I always think about a funny line Spike Lee says to Malcolm while they're in a diner. "Man this Muslim stuff is hard cause I love pork and I love white girls." I don't know if it were those were exactly, but you get the picture. The first thing I thought when he said that was.. damn Spike, I feel the same way.
     
  7. MP1983

    MP1983 New Member

    lol.....yeah that was some funny stuff. To me though, the Islam religion is just too.....what's the word. It's too fluid. After watching that film, I did(and am still doing) a truckload of research on the nation of islam. They've got a hell of a history. And there have been numerous articles from well respected members of Orthodox Islam to discredit them as true Islam(duh!!!) and even calling them a racist sect. *Shrugs shoulders*

    Yeah, that stuff is considered the 'white man's poison'. LMAO. Too much!
     
  8. LA

    LA Well-Known Member

    Yea, once I heard them refer to pork and white women as poison..I really wasn't trying to hear much else they had to say cause I was really dissapointed they would even put such a label on the two. Anything can be "poisinous", it's all how you treat it and perceive it.
     
  9. MP1983

    MP1983 New Member

    Yeah. I won't deny this much from them. They have done some good for the black community in the past where others have failed. Hell, they still do some good. But I percieve a lot of their beliefs as racist and prejudiced. Good for the black community or not, that's not a road we need to go down. IMO, it's too high a price to pay.

    The white man is the devil? LOL You should hear the story they have to back up that claim! Golden! It sounds like something straight out of a Disney flick! And I mean that very literally.

    At any length, if white women, pork, alcohol and cigarettes are the white man's poison, then we have our poisons as well. One can percieve hip hop as a poison(some of it anyway, I personally stick to the ones that have something to say.)

    The point I'm making is, some of the stuff comes across as black supremacy. Civil Rights and Black Supremacy shouldn't have any alliances. And I'm glad MLK kept his distance from those kats. Hell, even Malcolm came around in the end.
     
  10. TheChosenOne

    TheChosenOne Well-Known Member

    Yeah...many in the Middle East don't consider NOI as a true branch of Islam because of their racist ideologies....but many of these Arab Muslims wouldn't allow any of us to marry their daughters even if we were hardcore, orthodox Muslims ourselves....and weren't Westerners.
     
  11. fly girl

    fly girl Well-Known Member

    Well, NOI is actually not considered true Islam because they believe Elijah Mohammad was God incarnate. The very first tenet of Islam is Al-Shahadah. You have to profess, "There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is His Prophet". True Muslims believe Muhammad was the last Prophet.

    Racism in actually directly addressed in the Qur'an, unlike the Bible. But, like any other faith, most dont walk the walk in every hadith.

    Here is just one of many verses in the Qur'an dedicated to racism:

    "O people! The Arab enjoys no superiority over the non-Arab, nor does the non-Arab enjoy any supremacy over the Arab, the white enjoys no superiority over the black, nor does the black enjoy any supremacy over the white, expect on the basis of piety. All of you are from Adam and Adam was created from soil."
     
  12. TheChosenOne

    TheChosenOne Well-Known Member

    Very true....the devout Muslims I've met feel this way...but many are not so true to their faith...like Christians who go to church every Sunday yet still hate people with skin of another hue.
     
  13. TheChosenOne

    TheChosenOne Well-Known Member

    thanks for spreading the knowledge fly girl :D
     
  14. fly girl

    fly girl Well-Known Member

    No problem. I actually enjoy talking about this kind of stuff. Like you, I started looking into it because it interested me.

    I might be giving more information that what anyone wants, but you should look into Bilal of the Qur'an. He was an Ethiopean slave who became the seventh convert to Islam. He also was the first muadhin (caller to prayer). He faced a lot of racism and many of Muhammeds racism remarks were in defense of him. He still is one of the most revered people of the Qur'an.

    One of the nice things about the Qur'an is it hasnt been "white washed" like the Bible has over the years. Lots of interesting stuff in it.
     

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