This site should be named BM/BM.com

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by sugar_baby, Mar 3, 2006.

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Are white women discriminated against by black men on this site?

  1. Yes

    278 vote(s)
    99.6%
  2. No

    1 vote(s)
    0.4%
  1. mosiah1

    mosiah1 Member

    Let me get this straight: This new forum is called "White Female's Domain", it's being hosted by someone who currently has entered only 12 posts and the very first topic in "White Female's Domain" is talking about how this site ought to be named bmbm.com. Does anyone besides me see how asinine this is?

    I agree with some of the previous posters who say that this smacks of overreaction and segregation. Yes, there are more bm than ww on this site, and it sucks. But none of the posters here have denied anyone of their freedom of speech. I have been in the middle of several heated arguments during my time here, but no one has given me my own section. I wish that the debates over the past few days had not become so personal, but I don't understand the action of giving someone their own forum section just because a lot of people disagreed with them. If that's the case, then why don't you give daynccouple their own forums section. Daynccouple was run out of here on a rail for talking about (gasp) bringing a black bull into their bedroom. Oh my!

    I have never been the type to whine to the webmaster about posts made by others. You can either respond or choose to ignore a post; whining to the webmaster is a punk move. I think the main issue with this site is that we need to find a way to get more women to join. I just don't believe that debating issues is the thing that keeps women from joining this site. I once suggested that the people who run this site ought to make this site visible by printing t-shirts. Or maybe they should host a big interracial dating convention somewhere. This would help more women join up and give the current members a chance to meet each other. And we can have everyone searched for weapons just in case someone has designs on getting their revenge for a debate that they lost, hahaha.

    But overreaction, segregation and affirmative action for the offended is not the way to go.
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  2. 7Seven

    7Seven New Member

    This is all due to the fact a few women here can not handle their arguments begin challenged with such aggression and frostily, they should come to expect if you make a bold assumption in particular of BM, as a rule of thumb, their will be certain biases in their discourse. But these women never argue for a position of knowledge to combat their assertions and shaming language ensue. This doesn't make them any higher above reproach and this section WAS ONLY made to censor and to spite BM in particular, for the sake of balance and equality when there isn't even an imbalance. Maybe we should advocate a section where BM can police around WW. Since I know most of the posters here are American by their constitutional laws we have that right http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution#First_Amendment
    By the first, second and ninth Amendments we have that right.

    This comment will be edited out or deleted all together because well, it precedes basic logic of all things and the words are hurtful to the fragile feelings.
     
  3. sugar_baby

    sugar_baby New Member

    mosiah and seven, please go back and read that both Silvercosma and myself felt the name was also inappropriate. But we did think that a place where people could air their grievances and not get censored would be a nice addition to the board.

    I was as surprised by this separation as you were, and I don't blame you for being upset. Even if the new section remains, maybe we could get it renamed the 'gripe corner' or something. (I know that probably sounds dumb, but you get the general idea.)

    Please don't go away in a huff about this. I did originally post this in the 'conversations' area, but I guess the webmaster decided it was to inflammatory or something.
     
  4. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    You know what? It seems that no matter how much you try to word or phrase it to some of the white women in here, the black men are always wrong, because they are black men, and the white women are always right, because they are white women. :roll:

    And, most of what 7, jxsilicon, and Mosiah said was dead-on. If some of the white women can't handle a difference of opinion from the black men, or just agree to disagree, they start spouting a bunch of racist rhetoric about how the black men are being 'prejudiced' and 'overgeneralizing' and worst of all, they can never pinpoint what we are supposedly 'overgeneralizing' about. Instead, they just keep using the same bits and pieces of their argument over and over again, playing the racial victim, instigating more arguments all over the site's forums, and then throwing around their own generalizations in the process.



    White Female Poster: "Well, guys, it seems that you are all only generalizing here. I know plenty of other white women who aren't like that."

    Black Male Poster: "We never said all of you were like that."

    White Female Poster: "OK, well, since you guys are ganging up on me here, I won't post anymore. By the way, as much as you guys complain about racism, this is RACIST."

    Black Male Poster: "What? What are you talking about? How is it racist?"

    White Female Poster: "Oh, never mind!" *storms out of the website and starts lurking from now on*




    So, there you have it. Always in one ear and out the other (or should I say eye) with some of the women in here, and since it obviously isn't necessary to name names, I won't do that... as of yet.

    I think 7 proposed a good idea about another forum where we can police around the white women, since our 'running the show' has granted them THIS VERY FORUM. :roll: Along with all of the flames from some of the SAME white women in here over and over again, troll attacks on us, overreactions to 'our racism', and lectures about how much we should 'love the white man' as much as some of them do (who only can appreciate other men as second best somehow, but still choose to come here), and additional lectures on how we shouldn't discuss anti-black racism, unless the white women in here are in the mood for it, I forget, WE ARE RUNNING THE SHOW! :roll: Hypocrisy runs rampant in here, indeed, but NOT with us, that's for sure.

    Maybe if we black men keep up all of this 'racist nonsense' long enough, this website may become a site for only white women, called whitewomenwhitewomen.com, or maybe we can make it even more 'fun' by titling the website, whitepeopleblackpeople.com, that way, EVERYONE WINS. :roll: Huh? How about it?


    But, I forget. If the white women don't like what's being said in the forums, then it's a problem, but when the black men don't like what's being said, then they are just 'whining', 'being racist', and 'overgeneralizing', without any proof of this from an emotional standpoint from all of these same white women.

    I have also noticed something else that others in here may find interesting. It seems that posters like camonorange, girliekinduk, Iffy's Wifey, lainarain, Slivercosma, and PearlGirl, can participate in debates/discussions with the men in here, without resorting to a bunch of angry racial victim rants, and can own up to being wrong when they know are, unlike certain other posters. Doesn't that ring a bell in anyone's head in here somewhere?

    Along with that, those women may have lives that don't permit them to post as much as they may like to, or often would, and when they take the time to make threads (instead of waiting around for some of the men to do it) they make threads and write posts about all types of racism, sexy celebrities, Politics, Religion, IR dating/marriage, IR sex, and other things that the men also like to talk about with them, and none of their discussions usually turn into a race war. Can someone answer me why THAT is?

    Also, they are not the ones who have made black hunk celebrity threads, or participated in the ones that were made for them by a couple of other black male posters (Mosiah, PeyBackTime) and yet, still ask questions about 'Why Do Black Guys Like Timberland Boots', or whether or not, 'Black Men Prefer Easy Women' and whatever else, despite the fact that no one was attacked or flamed in those conversations at all for any reason.

    Slivercosma is right on the money the most in here, I think. To me, this forum, and this very thread is a race war, and this all may only get worse before it gets better.
     
  5. lainarain

    lainarain New Member

    Someone in the past has brought up that bm run this site. I said then, and I will say now, I disagree. (However, I have been accused of kissing their firm, black asses, also.) I have frequented this site less often because the posts (and picture posting) have gotten idiotic.

    WW have forgotten that we are treasured, and sheltered, creatures. It is not often that someone says anything bad about us or to us simply because of our race and gender. (And please do not say that we are objectified by a misogynistic culture because I have heard that weak argument before). Healthy conversation, debates, and arguments are not typical in our world and we do not know how to handle it when it comes our way. The black culture and particularly black men are much more proficient in handling personal attacks of race and gender. (What other group has "your momma" slams or "ribbing" sessions?!?)

    As someone who has slammed attacks at men in this group, I think us women get a bit too offended by some comments. I have apologized for doing this in the past realizing that I need to thicken my Lilly white skin. I appreciate that every man in this group does not put every ww on a pedestal without listening to her (sometimes ignorant) words. I appreciate that I have been put in my place by some of the ridiculous comments I have made. Because of this site, I believe I am a more well-rounded, educated, and understanding person.

    To conclude, I have not addressed anyone directly (oh, except Pey). I am not attacking ww and I am not allying with bm. You may disagree with me and I may post a response. However, my response will be with understanding that you are posting your mind. And you have a right to do that here.
     
  6. sugar_baby

    sugar_baby New Member

    lainarian, I see your point about being thin skinned, but calling people ugly, fat, and a traitor for dating a wm is pretty harsh and I think most people would go on the defensive.

    I saw someone being attacked and I jumped in. Maybe I was wrong but it didn't seem fair. I singled that person out who was doing it and got my hand slapped, so then I generalized and that was wrong too.

    This to me has never been about race or the sex of individuals, but about human decency. And to bring up someones appearance or attack them because they are dating someone of there own race seemed wrong, so I decided to lend a hand.

    Who knows how this will end, but for people to gloss over the name calling and the vicious attacks is unreal.

    So yeah, I think to call some people thin skinned is not exactly fair because these attacks were so personal.
     
  7. jxsilicon9

    jxsilicon9 Active Member

    I also agree about this board. A white womans domain board can only bring more heated debates and name-calling. This is suppose to be ww/bm and its turning into ww vs. bm.
     
  8. MistressB

    MistressB New Member

    And I appreciated you doing so - not because I could give any toss about what might be thought about me by some random from the internet, but because I genuinely thought the whole thing a crazy overreaction and was relieved to see I wasn't the only one! Sometimes you do wonder if it is just your own madness rather than other people's...! :wink: :lol:

    Lainy makes an interesting point about a culture of hostility or debate but not one which applies to everyone - perhaps white women are a treasured species in comparison to black men, although certainly not to white men (not a feminist argument, just a fact of life). That said, I live, breathe and thrive in a world of debate which is often challenging and hostile and the fact of challenge isn't one which will affect the way I think about myself. My genuine thought is only that sometimes people on here either completely miss the nuances of what they themselves are saying, or utterly misread what someone else is saying. I made one post as a joke asking about black guys and timberland boots (which in the context of the forum it was in was supposed to be a parody!) and that is pretty much it for my contribution to the racial debate, bar my umpteen posts lusting over Wesley Snipes, but what's a girl to do. To be honest, the fact that I neither know nor care enough to engage in this debate at all is probably as strong a message as any that it is time to for me to bid adieu to you all at this site - it's been fun but these arguments are circular and self-defeating, and no-one on here has ever gotten any further in looking at the bigger picture of life...and it's all over for me.

    Goodnight folks and take care. 8)
     
  9. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    I agree with you.sugar_baby. When I first came here it was really calm, everyone had a good time. Now certain individuals have caused drama and should have been warned or even banned. lol
    the place may be called white women's domain but it doesn't mean only white women shall post. just ask the webmaster to change it if you don't like it. I mean the webmaster did give you mod powers maybe he or she will change it if you ask nicely.
     
  10. Crystal

    Crystal New Member

    wow, I wonder what I've stepped into?

    I thought I'd come to the ladies section first to say hi to everyone, but you are all so unhappy! :(

    Maybe I've been too naive in pursuing my attraction to black guys by joining this site!!

    I'm not sure that anyone is going to have a good time if we do not just assume we are all equals and basically kind of spirit and intentions and act accordingly.

    As far as arguments go...I confess I'm not too interested in winning arguments and having a lot of aggressive debates, but if there are problems or topics people wish to discuss or get input on, I'm happy to share knowledge or experiences, ideas, whatever might help out.

    And I hope vice versa.

    Looking forward to getting to know everyone.

    C.
     
  11. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    well you are new to me so hi.
    Hopefully you'll have a good time.
    I think the site is having drama.
    It's not so much as black men vs white woman.
    It is more of a certain set of individuals causing trouble and a lot people not liking them. Hopefully you have a good time. I would look around if I were you to see who the certain individuals are so that you don't get in a pointless argument with them. :D
     
  12. webmaster

    webmaster Administrator Staff Member

    The topic "White Female's Domain" was created for two reasons.

    1. To diffuse the current bickering.

    2. As an experiment to see how people would react if white females were given a little affirmative action. To see how they'd react as the minority and how the black men would react as the majority.
     

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