the measels out break

Discussion in 'In the News' started by goodlove, Feb 1, 2015.

  1. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

  2. Gemini74

    Gemini74 Well-Known Member

    vaccination is by the choice of parents. i dont think it s right to punish children for their parents decisions.
    i had a talk bout that the other day with my gf that lives down florida . her son almost died after receiving a vaccination and since that day she riots against it, which is likely unusual, coz germans tend to be pro- vaccinating.
    as we were speaking she pointed out that lots of vaccinations end up with damages for the children in the end in the states. cant say i have seen that as wide spread over here...
    so question comes up to my mind, is , is the problem with the medicine used, is it because parents cant afford it or is it just lack of information how worse the damage can be if you are not getting it?
     
  3. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    Personally I don't think unvaccinated children should be allowed in public school...if you want to home school them and not vaccinate then that is your choice ...
     
  4. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    i have not heard the "Q" word yet
     
  5. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    Quarantine? Once someone has the measles they should quarantine themselves due to the extreme contagiousness of the measles
    It was just on the news that an adult female with the measles rode the train in NY and could have infected 100s to 1000s of people just riding the train
     
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  6. Cherok33

    Cherok33 Well-Known Member

    Working in the field of immunizations and education for the past 15 yrs, I can tell you that people are uneducated on the topic. Immunizations are given to protect from disease. In the past 60 years, smallpox vaccine has eradicated the smallpox disease and polio is soon to follow. Vaccines prevent deaths from diseases. Most diseases prevented by vaccines are no longer common in the United States.
     
  7. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    thats the word....
     
  8. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Agree that parents who refuse to get their kids vaccinated shouldn't be allowed to send their kids to school.

    But I'm curious, does anyone have a theory why there seemed to be this cluster of children coming down with autism about 10 years ago??

    Is it possible a bad batch of a certain vaccine could have caused this disorder??

    Not that anyone on the medical or pharmaceutical side would ever admit it.

    But it does seem strange that for a few years the rate of child autism spiked and no one could trace a genetic or environmental cause, to the best of my knowledge.

    Some of these nutty parents think by not vaccinating their kids, it helps them build up a natural immunity to disease by strengthening their immune systems.:smt078

    Lord help.
     
  9. Gemini74

    Gemini74 Well-Known Member

    I got both of my kids vaccinated thru the whole program over the years, and my daughter is doing so with my granddaughter now, too, which is just right in my eyes.
    It s known that vaccination has led to rot out some super serious sicknesses, so i have a hard time understanding why, obviously growing groups, have such an issue with it.
     
  10. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    I agree. I was vaccinated growing up and the only thing I ever came down with was chicken pox. Parents who don't vaccinate their kids do every other child a disservice. If I had kids they'd definitely be getting their vaccinations.
     
  11. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    It has beenproven there is no link between autism and vaccines. The original report was falsified and that doctor lost his license. Its all debunked.
     
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  12. Ches

    Ches Well-Known Member

    I think the benefits of vaccinations far outweigh any risks.
     
  13. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

  14. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    Truth.

    Also, I don't know when this happened, though in the grand scheme of things it happened recently, they changed the criteria for diagnosing Autism.

    Taken from the below article:

    In the 1990?s the diagnosis of autism was changed to autism spectrum disorder (ASD) – the new name reflecting the changing concept of autism to include a broader spectrum of symptoms, including much more subtle manifestations. In particular a diagnostic entity known as Aspergers syndrome, which is essentially a subtle manifestation of autism features, was classified as part of ASD. Any time you broaden a category the number of individuals that fit into that category is likely to increase.

    http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-increase-in-autism-diagnoses-two-hypotheses/
     
  15. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    My experience with the MMR (Measles, Mumps, Rubella) vaccine:

    When I was 18, I received the MMR vaccine as a requirement for attending college.

    Fast forward 12 years and when I became pregnant, in one of the many blood tests they took, they checked for vaccines. They did not see the MMR vaccine in my blood.

    I told my doctor that I distinctly remember getting that vaccine when I was 18.

    He said, sometimes vaccines don't stay with a person.

    So, the day after giving birth, I received the MMR vaccine again.

    I have no idea if this one took and is still in my system, but this COULD explain why some people are getting it even if they've been vaccinated for it.

    :smt102

    As for the anti-vaxxers, they need to shut up and get their children vaccinated.

    Previously eradicated diseases (thanks to vaccinations) are starting to rear their ugly heads again and it's only going to get worse, if more people opt not to get vaccinated.
     
  16. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    You can't play that shit working in healthcare

    I had to bring in old college health papers verifying I had all of my shots...and I still had to get more

    On the plus side, they used to give us free shots if we planned on traveling abroad

    Those damn third world countries

    And yeah if u don't want to vaccinate your child, do everyone a favor and home school them or send them to some hippie institution where they can all stew in the shit
     
  17. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    I had no idea this anti-vaccination thing has this much momentum. The only people I've ever heard being even moderately serious about this were mothers of autistic children who were convinced that the mercury caused their children's condition.
     
  18. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    Jenny McCarthy is very outspoken about vaccinations. Her son is autistic...when she was on the view it was her main platform go to warning mothers against vaccines...this is great information!
     
  19. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    Jenny McCarthy. Ugh.

    She's one of the main reasons that we even have to have this debate/argument in 2015.

    The misinformation out there on the internet and spewed by misinformed celebrities, such as her, is causing a huge crisis that can and will affect tons of people.
     
  20. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    I agree! I think she appealed to mothers when she talked about her son evan...sad the parents would not seek professional advice from their doctors
     

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