The Insane Klown Posse! (Why I Hate Conservatives.Pt. 2)

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by jellybird, May 9, 2008.

  1. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    Love that pic of sen. Joe Mc!! Barry Goldwater was a hero of mine too :D
     
  2. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    heck most of the black folks and so called liberal white folks where i live dont do anything on MLK day and also, we have a black on black murder rate that leads the nation. So to me, an MLK day, is just another day. Some americans dont celebrate columbus day, some dont hang out flags on independence day, so cant hate on anyone who didnt sign the day into law.

    also, other candidates connected to hate and anti american groups, but people are still supporting them
     
  3. jellybird

    jellybird New Member

    Who cares what others do. Just "do you." But MLK Day is just another day to you because, hey, he's no Goldwater, Reagan, or Hoover.

    After reading some of your posts, Im almost convinced your a WM because no black person could hate themselves that much. Dont worry...you can admit it! Everyone is welcome here. Free yourself!

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    "Because the truth...shall set you free! Hallelujah!"
     
  4. SmoothDaddy101

    SmoothDaddy101 Well-Known Member

    Jelly, you're not angry (I'm sorry about that--I just got defensive since I do think Laura Ingraham is cool in person). Just passionate and truly care about black people. We may have different approaches and ideas, but do respect your opinions. I have my personal issues that I still need to work out, but I hope that you can truly do something to benefit your community. Remember, not all black folk are the same. We may have our own thoughts and opinions (you liberal, me moderate, etc). However, I would hope that we all have the same goals in mind.

    BTW, I grew up watching TV, so I developed a few negative images about myself in which I'm still resolving (yeah, I hated myself and looks at times). My parents and teachers tried to tell me different. However, wanting to do things by TV's (pretty white people's standards), I didn't listen to them. One thing I do appreciate about my parents is that they will keep me in check once I start tripping over trivial stuff.


    But I gotta get ready for work (got this new apartment and have to work 55-65 hrs a week to keep it.


    Peace
     
  5. jellybird

    jellybird New Member

    I got nothing but love for you, smooth. And I have no problem respecting others ideas and opinions, but this cat comes and stomps over Dr. MLK Jr.'s b-day like its a cheap rug.

    Yeah, I love black people, but I also love all people. But I learned to love myself, first. (Trust me when I say, smooth, that my complexion is just as dark as yours.) And I dont like it when people discount the impact of Dr. MLK Jr. Sounds like some crap from racist site. The civil rights act of 1964 is (I think) the most important piece of US legislation in the last 100 years.

    One thing I have always observed is this reverse psychology thats applied when the "have-nots" want something from the government, but everyone thinks its ok when the "haves" seek it.

    For instance, ever heard of The Citadel? Its a military school in SC. Well, they didnt have a policy excluding women, but made it clear that they were not welcome. But they seeked and accepted government $. In the early 90's a young lady was denied entry into the citadel because of her sex. The feds said you cant have a disciminatory policy regarding admission and recieve federal aid. The citadel asked for an exemption and lost so they had to decide between becoming a private school and not receiving fed $ or accepting women. Guess which one they choose?

    So this weathy school changed their entire structure (new rules, dorms, standards, and codes for women) so that they could continue to get government assistance. But when the "have-nots" seek it, its called a hand-out.

    Same thing with Dr. King's b-day. We have been conditioned to think that his birthday doesnt matter, so we dont celebrate it or the things he achieved...and we treat it like a regular ol' day. But we (black people) have been conditioned to celebrate independence day-we weren't independent, we were slaves, president's day-still slaves, valentine's day-still slaves...ok, not exactly, but I need a third holiday to attack.

    Do I celebrate the 4th of July? Nope, but I dont do to work, either. Now until I see "others" say, "F*ck, lincoln and washington" and march off to work on president's day, I will continue to keep my black-ass home on Dr. King's b-day.
     
  6. jellybird

    jellybird New Member

    (Damn, Ive tripped-up and fell off the happy train.)

    CAN A BROTHER GET ANOTHER HUG???
     
  7. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    LOL. *HUGS for the Jellybird* :D
     
  8. SmoothDaddy101

    SmoothDaddy101 Well-Known Member

    You make sense. I heard of the school, but never knew the whole story. I do agree with Dr. King's b-day. To me, July 4 was a day for non-stop BBQ. The other holidays...just more BS for advertisers? I do realize that I need to love myself first before anyone else (other than my family) can love me. Heck, I am the spitting image and legacy of my mother. I need to appreciate that.

    Handshake and Hug for Jelly.
     
  9. shyandsweet

    shyandsweet New Member

    Yes smooth you should definately love yourself. You seem like such a nice, intelligent guy, (and I saw a pic of you on another thread) and you are a very good looking guy. Just keep being the guy that you are and I am sure that special someone will show up! :D
     
  10. jellybird

    jellybird New Member

    This article appeared in the new york times. Like I said earlier, the "haves" have no problem taking government money, but when the "have-nots" get it, its a handout.

    There are two more pages to this article. If anyone wants a copy, let me know.


    Rich Colleges Receiving Richest Share of U.S. Aid

    By GREG WINTER

    If there is any grand, elegant logic behind the federal government's dispersal of more than a billion dollars in college aid, then Maria Hernandez is humble enough to confess that it has escaped her.

    Consider her point. Poverty is hardly a rarity among the students of California State University at Fresno, where she is the director of financial aid. Many come from families working in the fields nearby, on farms where students spend their summer and winter vacations harvesting peaches and sugar beets to stay in school.

    About three hours and a world away sits Stanford. Far fewer of its students are poor, yet the federal government gives it about 7 times as much money to help each one of them through college under one program, 28 times as much in another and almost 100 times as much in a third, government data show.

    ''Pretty sad,'' if you ask Ms. Hernandez.

    Similar discrepancies emerge across the nation, adhering to a somewhat counterintuitive underlying theme: The federal government typically gives the wealthiest private universities, which often serve the smallest percentage of low-income students, significantly more financial aid money than their struggling counterparts with much greater shares of poor students.

    Brown, for example, got $169.23 for every student who merely applied for financial aid in order to run its low-interest Perkins loan program in the 2000-1 academic year. Dartmouth got $174.88; Stanford, $211.80. But most universities did not get nearly that much: the median for the nation's colleges was $14.38, according to a New York Times analysis of federal data on the more than 4,000 colleges and universities that receive some form of federal aid.

    Nearly 200 colleges received less than $3 per applicant for financial aid. The University of Wisconsin at Madison got 21 cents.

    Harvard, Princeton, Yale -- and all the other members of the Ivy League, for that matter -- were also given 5 to 8 times the median to pay their students in work-study jobs. That is money the institutions got directly, to be spent on behalf of needy students.

    And they got 5 to 20 times the median amount of grant money to look after the everyday needs of their poor students, despite having some of the largest endowments in the nation, if not the world. (Harvard and Yale both have endowments of more than $10 billion. Princeton's is $8.7 billion.)

    Such disparities have been a sore point among universities for years, leftovers from an era when federal money was given to colleges on an individual, almost negotiable basis. Now, for the first time in more than two decades, the nation's financial aid officers are calling for the imbalances to be wiped away, replaced by a system that steers financial aid toward the universities that poor students actually attend, rather than those with the biggest reputations.

    ''We're saying, 'Hey, is this really fair?' '' said Dallas Martin, president of the National Association of Student Financial Aid Administrators. ''The money ought to follow where the neediest students are. That's the equity piece and that's what's missing.''

    At first glance, it may seem that some universities receive more money simply because they cost more to attend. But try telling that to Heather McDonnell, director of financial aid at Sarah Lawrence College, which costs just as much as its Ivy League competitors, yet in one category received only a sixth as much money as any of them.

    ''It's not even touching reality,'' Ms. McDonnell said. ''It's not even acknowledging any changes in the economy and how my families are doing.''

    Even some of the beneficiaries of the imbalance concede that it is not entirely rational, and say they would consent to shedding a few dollars for the sake of parity.

    ''How could we complain, really?'' said Sally C. Donahue, director of financial aid at Harvard College. ''We have been very fortunate to receive the money that we have. And the barriers facing low-income students are considerable, so anything increasing their access to college nationally is something we would support wholeheartedly.''
     

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