yep - that is so true, that way, he could save some money for the therapy sessions he needs... and get laid.
By the sounds of him I'm more than sure that he wants the sex/attention he craves for the price of a meal in the Wimpy bar, no one is dining, not in the true sense.
Espy- I am not sure if he was talking about having POWER over a woman, maybe he was not expressing himself well, or maybe I misinterpreted what he siad. I think to me he sounds like a man who is spending lots of money and time with all these women in hopes of getting laid but he is not accompolishing that task, now he is bitter as fuk. And I remember him saying on the other thread that he is not good looking and he is got no charm. Sounds like a good candidate for Pickup artist VH1 school.
I know I'm setting myself up for criticism by saying this but I think he makes some valid points. I don't agree with his tone or the way he comes across but some of his critiques about the dating process mirrors my own. I don't think he intends to change our dating practices by stating them because lets face it women usually have most of the power in dating in the beginning and I'm sure they won't be giving any of it up anytime soon. But it seems as if he's just venting as most of us do on here. We may not rant but we use the forum as a way to release frustration in a productive manner. I'd rather him rant on here then abduct and kill women as many sick and confused men have done in the pass, but I digress. What I take from his post is that dating isn't equal nor is it fair and truthfully we all know it isn't. There are expectations put on men that are not put on men ie chivlelary but I ask what are the requirements of a woman on a date. Dating just seems to be an audition for sex. We are required to take you out to make you feel comfortable so we can have sex and I'm not saying its all that matters but if women actually believe that isn't one of our main goals at least for most men then you aren't paying attention. Of course we as men want more like love and stability at some point but in the beginning its all about sex for most of us we don't even know how we feel until we have sex. Gotta get that baby batter off the brain to really see a woman, the lust has to be removed in order for us to truly see you as human beings. Sorry we're visual ladies we aren't as emotion based as you are. With that being said you have to understand it gets a little frustrating knowing that we have to pay a lot of money(that's relative I know) in order to engage in an activity where we do 90 percent of the work but you guys enjoy just as much if not more(disclamair: if you're wack in bed you have no idea about what I'm talking about) But I have to say for future reference don't come on here so angry fam its counter productive. I understand how frustrating it can be but relax. Get an escort call an ex find a fat chick enjoy a little self love just do whatever you can to get the poison out. You'll feel a lot better trust me.
What does the woman get if she has sex with every man who takes her out to dinner? This system wasn't created by Women, and yet we are blamed for it. It's not fair to us either, and yet we are blamed for it.
Lots of free meals (those costs add up!), and orgasms if she's lucky. Nice clean credit report too, it's not like the card would ever leave your purse Welcome to being Black in America, enjoy your stay.
I guess we misunderstood him all..spoken out of experiences of a woman, do you know how many men expect for a dinner or any other stupid stuff a sexual exchange- that´s the reason, why so many women pay their food by themselves. Men need not to pay anything- we can pay by ourselves. It was the sound, how he said it..me, I don´t want to have contact with that niveau, really not
You know, I dont get the feeling that he is spedning mucho dinero - He seems like a guy that would never do that, just my feeling. Although a regular mainstream restaurant can be taxing on the economics as well. But this is besides the point.. He clearly has himself to blame for his unsuccess as his attitude probably turn any woman off within an hour, thus the wasted money. That and again, what type of women IS he approaching? Dont ever spend money up front on a woman and then complain about not getting laid - its an easy fix Dont spend the money - OR get an escort - nothing shameful in that whatsoever.
Well said as usual, would give you rep but must spread it around. Not to derail the thread, but moral, legal, and economic considerations aside, I never understood how a guy could be comfortable going to an escort knowing that only a fragile piece of latex was between him and the sexual medical history of thousands if not countless other men.
LoL, I usually have women sign my "I must get laid tonite, if I am paying for dinner" contractual agreement prior to ordering my appetizer. If she declines to sign, I am out thru the back door b4 she gets a chance to glare at the main course menu.
All Im gonna say on this is that in the very beginning of dating - yes, the woman do have the power.. that changes fairly quickly once you start dating and the man has it... There is a lot of blame to go around, but as a whole in dating, (not the first few dates).. I think the men has the upper hand. Of course this is a generalization for the sake of the discussion.
Yeah because so called no escorts are cleanier? Here's the thing escort or not anyone is a potential biological bomb waiting to fuck you up so just wrap it up and hope for the best because sex is risk period
FG that is something that we can totally agree on. Once we have your hearts we have your emotions and your emotions run you. So I have to side with you on this one.
Certainly true that there is nothing stopping a average person from being just as sexually active as an escort, and that there are multiple risks involved when having sex. It just seems to me that it makes very good sense to at least avoid situations where you know for a fact that the odds are much higher for disaster to strike.
Andrae, I understand quite well, what you are talking about. But, you can never expect anything, as soon as it comes to people. Not at a date, not in business. Investing money is necessary, if you cannot afford it- then simply let it be. I don´t ask you or him for anything... Or how do you want to manage it? A coke for a blowjob? A plate of food for intercourse? Dessert for anal sex? It is very offensiv, if some one invites me to dinner and expects sex . I really have no words for how cheap that is.
