The Dating Scene in Europe (Especially Paris)

I'm kinda curious. I spent some time in Paris in the summer of 2003 and did get a chance to go out to a few places...some of them looked like bars/lounges, the rest were restaurants. One thing which struck me was that in many of these places, there seemed to be groups of women set up at restaurant tables or at bars just sitting there either waiting for men to approach them or ready to approach men themselves. In one of the bars I visited, I was quite shocked. I'm not sure how things work over there, but one woman after another came up to me to ask me to buy them drinks. A few of them were dressed quite provocatively and they were really aggressive. I was kinda scared and didn't want to take any chances because I started to wonder if it was some kind of prostitution...actually it might have been, because in one of the places, male visitors could pick a woman they liked and she'd take him to the back and either give him a lap dance or something. Yet when you walked in there, you'd think it was a regular bar or lounge and that the women in there came in to hang out just like you did.

I told each of the women who approached me that I didn't have money, and then I left. Even the bartender, a lady, tried to get me to buy a drink (a very expensive one) for one of the women. Now, I don't condone prostitution. I think it is immoral and degrading to women. I'm starting to wonder if the practice is legal in a good number of European countries-I don't know about France, but I watched a documentary on HBO which stated that it's actually legal in Germany, and that behind closed doors, many prostitutes were soliciitng male customers during the World Cup. I'd like to get some insight from any of you who might be familiar with the night life in European cities such as Paris, etc., and things and places to avoid. You don't want to fool around and find yourself getting arrested in a foreign country by surprise.

 

Yes, Shaft, prostitution is legal in Germany, which is the best thing to do...these girls ay taxes, get some social benefits, and can work in more decent conditions...well tht`s another debate...

You definitely might have been in a lounge with some kinda call-girls...in Paris there are sooo many different types of prostitutes (as in all big touristic cities)...the luxury ones, the call-girls in bars....most of the time you wouldn`t get arrested in u go with them...the typical ones, street ones, yeah you might...I said might...
Also, Paris is a city of crazy freedom and crazy things...u have a lot of clubs where ppl go for orgies or swap wives, girlfriends etc...

Now, the regular dating scene...French girls aren`t shy...when you approach them...some are even bold enough to approach you and offer you a drink...and I`m not talkin about prostitutes...They aren`t materialistic so u won`t have to take them to 20 restaurants before they kiss you...if they are interested in you!! and even when they are not interested in going out with you, they rarely just brush you off...they usually are friendly if you approach them smoothly!

Of couse, this doesn`t mean they are easy...your approach has to be smooth...but trust me it is waaaaaaaaaay easier to talk to European girls in general, be it in a bar, at the terrace of a Cafe, or in a nightclub!!

Well, hope this helps!!

 

European countries tolerate prostitution more then USA. It isn't legal everywhere but it's usually tolerated. I would have told them to buy me a drink.

 

i would have checked my drink for an STD

 

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Hi, Jreminator and Jxsilicon,

I appreciate your feedback. It was definitely helpful. For me personally, even if prostitution isn't illegal in those places, I still wouldn't get involved with any women involved in such practices. And Tucker, your response was really funny. The one thing I'm really beginning to love about Europe is that the women are just as trendy as those here in the United States. I mean, I was walking on the street in Paris that summer and it felt like New York. Women are dressed extremely sexy. If you happen to be there for a specific purpose, you gotta make sure you handle business first and save trying to have fun for last...otherwise you might get distracted by all those beautiful women. From the moment you land at the Airport, you start to see some really trendy folks. I stopped briefly at an Airport in Zurich and whew...did I see things.

One flight attendant on the plane...tall, blonde slender lady, a French-speaker as well, kept checking on me to see how I was doing. I wanted to flirt with her, but my parents were seated right in front of me on that flight. I'd love to date a French lady. I just haven't met that many at all over here in the U.S. On dit que les Francais aiment faire l'amour. (It is said that the French like love making...

 

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Shaft,

Which airline were you flying???

Yes....the ladies that were waiting in the those Parisian bars were ho's. Were the bars near Rue St. Denis???

The Kid Rasta 8)

 

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Hey Rasta, I have a better one.

Shaft, why do you call yourself Shaft when you act nothing like the John Shaft in the Shaft movies ?

Shaft never ever let any woman black or white play him for drinks or let any women punk him, in fact if you go back and see the movie, nobody played John Shaft.

Not trying to diss you partner but if you want women to respect you, they have to smell, taste, touch, hear and see it about you the minute they encounter you. Sounds like the women that are around you whether at the gym, work or at a bar can sense something about you that says, Chump or meal ticket.

 

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Oui Shaft, les Francaises adorent faire l`amour (Yes, Shaft, French girls really enjoy making love...

Hmm...the Kid Rasta is a well-travelled man...I`m sure you`ve been Rue St Denis, Kid...and maybe around the Bois de boulogne as well???

Shaft, if you want to meet some foreign women, and especially French girls, go to some movie theater showing independent movies or foreign films...
The great thing about European girls, to me, is that they really care about who YOU ARE, before they even think about WHAT YOU HAVE...one of my uncles in Lille (North of france) who is an MD now, use to work in fastfood and stuff while he was a poor med school student....the man was dead broke!!!
His then girlfriend and now wife stood by him, put him up at her apartment for almost all of his student years...today they are married with beautiful kidz....

Of course there are some materialistic women everywhere...but really, when they like you, if you are a cool dude, kind to her and considerate, ambitious, trying to get womewhere in life, you can be as broke as a rat, she`ll be there by your side!! Look for them man, that`s the way to go!!!

 

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Hi Kid Rasta,

It happened a while ago, so I don't recall the name of the street where I was at. To Millionaireman, with all due respect to you, I hope you weren't insulting me. No matter how non-confrontational a person may try to be, it appears as if there's always someone in every forum who starts insulting and attacking people personally. The Merriam Webster Dictionary defines a "chump" as a fool or a dupe, and I'm certainly not one. Just because I use the screenname Shaft on here doesn't imply that I must have to share the same personality as the lead character in the movie. Since when did everyone on a forum have to pick a screen name that reflects their personality? Freedom of expression means that we can use any name we want. And by the way, those women in Paris that I mentioned...they approach every man the same way. I went there with a friend of mine and they did the same thing to him. What screen name did you want me to use? Loser man?

You have to understand that not all men are the same. Some of us are more reserved and more shy than others, more modest, etc. I'm not saying that I'm not aggressive. Furthermore, I wasn't raised in the United States. You can't expect me to be able to do everything exactly like American men. That's why I'm here asking questions to learn what might be the source of the problem. When I feel really attracted to a woman, I'll go for it. But I'm typically not the in-your-face kind of guy. I think your response to me was inapproriate, insensitive and very inconsiderate, and I don't appreciate that. I rarely get upset with people, but please don't make my life any more complicated than it already is when it comes to dating. Thank you.