The Cost of a College Education

Discussion in 'In the News' started by nocturnalmission, Dec 3, 2011.

  1. nocturnalmission

    nocturnalmission New Member

    As I listen to the corporate world swear that there aren't enough qualified people to fill technical positions (while generally refusing to spend money on or establish training programs to close those gaps), and watch helplessly as
    universities and colleges raise tuition every year, creating instant debt for thousands of students, I found this opinion on the mark...

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/02/opinion/vedder-college-costs/index.html?hpt=hp_bn9

    I'm sure there will be people who defend the rising cost of education, but like insurance and medical care, the ever increasing cost boggle my mind...:rolleyes:
     
  2. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    like i said before...penn state was around 6/7k flat per year in 2000-2002

    now they're up to practically double at 12k and some change

    it's a huge jump, which is why the community colleges have been getting more students looking to save money for at least their first 2 years.

    as for the lack of skilled people, this is part of the reason why they want government quotas to be eliminated as far as hiring workers outside of the US. The companies want the best talent they can get, but are being strong-armed into shortages or hiring people without degrees or necessary certification.
     
  3. GFunk

    GFunk Well-Known Member

    And this shit is only gonna widen the gap between the upper and lower class. Mufuckas wanna go to school, but they sometimes can't. And nobody wants to get butt fucked with ridiculous loan repayments.
     
  4. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

    There was a time in this country that kids got free tuition when they went to a State University they lived in. They only paid if they went to private universities or out of state colleges.

    Thats why so many baby boomers were able to go to college and come out debt free and start their lives at such a early age.
     
  5. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    That's really sad

    like Bacu said this only widens the class gap. It costs a small fortune to get a MBA or phd for example. The prices of those degrees are continuously rising, keeping people out of school and keeping people with resources in power positions.

    Could you imagine if adults were able to get government sponsored leaves from work, to pursue a degree full-time, without having to worry about rent and food or healthcare?

    :)
     
  6. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    No government sponsored leaves. I am not paying for that. It is too hard as it is paying for people who have they can't take care of an old people that had 40 years to take care of themselves.
     
  7. LA

    LA Well-Known Member

    Exactly.
     
  8. LA

    LA Well-Known Member

    I look forward to the day when a degree will cost me $1 million dollars.
     
  9. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    6 months with his first job (awwwww) and already he's tight-fisted

    :p

    either way you're going to pay taxes for something, like grants, government scholarships etc

    one of my doctors had the government sponsor his med school years, provided he became a medical officer with the marines for a few years.
     
  10. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    I'm fine with the grants and scholarships but the company has to pay for the sponsored leaves.


    When they take 400 dollars out of your pay check, you start to notice things.
     
  11. Hypestyle

    Hypestyle Active Member

    in the long-term future, if America is to "get serious" about competing with the likes of china, japan, india, pakistan, etc. on producing an educated class, government, from the federal level down, is going to have to take a stronger look at universal higher education, both skilled trades and college degrees of various disciplines.. but of course, in the anti-tax-absolutism game that everyone wants to play, people tend to look at grade-school teachers as public-trough pimps (but never the bankers and wall-street swindlers who've received bailouts and regular major tax breaks)

    I found Adam Carolla's recent rant amusing--
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    Carolla earns exponentially more in a year than the average wage-earner in the United States, whether unionized or not. I don't know.. on one hand, it could just be schtick from Carolla, who could be just jumping on the Dennis Miller cranky-righty bandwagon.. on the other hand, he could well be reflecting his real views on things, lol.. Ah well, I wonder if Adam remembers how right-wingers wanted him banned for the Man Show routines and the Loveline show? Heh.
    Carolla's anecdote about the father teaching the son to admire the Rolls Royce guy makes no sense nowadays. The entry-level worker would "never" be able to earn what the CEO earns in their lifetimes. Wages for rank and file have flatlined for decades, while CEO/top-executive pay has steadily risen.
    Whether or not a job is unionized, wages and benefits have been slashed regularly over the decades; layoffs are a regular occurrence, and if you are in a "right to work" state (or even an "at will" state), then you can be let go "for any reason", disrupting your income from work and thus derailing whatever progress people would otherwise make in terms of trying to "climb the ladder". Subprime loans are kicking otherwise middle-class folks out of their homes, so it's not like people who bought homes in the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, etc. Those who are blessed to go to and finish college are frequently in debt to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars by the time they graduate, they're glad to get a job doing "anything" let alone whatever their degree is supposed to lead to. Pensions and social security are under assault, the safety net of generations past will likely not be there for the youth of today and tomorrow.
     
  12. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    in a research called "the lasting consequences of the summer gap" by john hopkins U. you will find that education is really for the wealthy and not anyone else.

    steve jobs stated he had 30000 jobs (engineering and science related ) he couldnt fill. to me that is a bunch of BS.

    Nasa just layed off 1200 employees (physicts and engineers and ect) , along with many universities across the U.S. (MIT) and he couldnt find any.

    somebody is pissing on my leg and saying its raining
     
  13. nocturnalmission

    nocturnalmission New Member

    Yeah, it's all corporate hype... And they do like to blow smoke up our butts and call it sunshine....LMAO
     
  14. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    Apple and NASA are two completely different animals

    engineers aren't interchangeable, as there are many disciplines that they can specialize in

    that's like saying their shouldnt be a shortage of Cardiologists because XYZ just laid off a bunch of pediatricians
     
  15. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    they are basically going to ship as much as they can over seas.
     

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