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Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by goodlove, Jan 19, 2011.

  1. APPIAH

    APPIAH Well-Known Member

    Still dont get it .How can you have a topic hottest black women and say it is actually started as a thread of white women with black features whatever that means. Thats why i say not everything right is prudent of course black men have varied taste but i am wondering if it is prudent to do a hottest black womans thread on a site where funnily enough we bash black women constantly. Maybe the guys dont have issues ,some of the ww dont like it but some are too scared to speak up else they would be eaten alive
     
  2. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

    That was the latest Black women thread: Nothing but sexy Black women


    and the other is Hottest Black women? by Malikom

    and while I dislike these threads I want them kept around. Why?

    I'm fine with these threads because it shows the mindset and views of certain posters just as much as if it was a political thread. Some like other women equally while, some just want a little changeup, some BM just want to assert their right/ability to have an IR, and then there are those who prefer white women , yet the reality of AFFIRMING THAT and saying it loud and proud is probably a blow to there notions of Blackness or some other social pressure, many of these guys probably believe the negative stereotypes about Black men who like White women and don't want to be seen in that light. These dudes go into detail about other women for many reasons, some of it seems like over compensating.
     
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2011
  3. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the feedback.
     
  4. veema

    veema Member

    Thanks, BBW. I appreciated your perspective on this.

    I understand that men have different tastes. Women do too. But wouldn't it make sense to post threads expressing diverse tastes in men and women on a site for diverse tastes in men and women? Instead of a site for white women and black men?
     
  5. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    It's all about a matter of tastes and preference. But tell me, xoxo, why dislike threads when the topics have little measures of vitriol in the first place? And...this video may not be relevant, but I figure you might appreciate this. A beautiful redheaded singer, Amy Nuttall with a black dude in a cold place. Well...enough descriptions...here's the video.

    [YOUTUBE]VFARit3YMhg[/YOUTUBE]

    Well, you do bring up a substantial good point. But as I've stated and to further add, those topics come up every once in a while. So, as long as the saturation doesn't deviate itself from the main premise of the site, then such topics are good to go. Remember, white women appreciation threads still outweigh all the non-white beautiful women threads by a large margin. So, you're more likely to see threads pertaining to what this site's mission is about.
     
  6. veema

    veema Member

    You are welcome. I realize that no one is checking ID's at the door and anyone can post anything. That's just how the site works. Everyone gets in the door. (How long they stay is up to them and the moderators.) Doesn't mean I always understand why some people join or post some of the things they do.
     
  7. veema

    veema Member

    Thanks again, BBW.
     
  8. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

    Yea, they may not get heated like some of the other threads, but there is some argument, some times coming from me. I dislike it for the simple fact I'm not really into non White women. The Threads should be kept around like I said though, so we can see what some BM are saying and who they are attracted to. I hope these Negros make some threads like Hawaiian women, Eskimo women, Arab women....
     
  9. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    :cool: I appreciate that, dear.


    Well, we all have varied tastes in women and that's provable through the threads we make. And you just may get them soon. But remember, topics pertaining to white women and their beauty far exceeds the other topics put together.

    Also, you're more than welcome to post your own threads of beautiful white women. You do seem like a very well-rounded and great person to be around. And I don't think that your preference interfere with your interactions with non-white women on friendship grounds. On that note, I can safely say that you're a great man.
     
  10. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

    I'm not great, but thanks. Most of my female friends have been Black or Asian women, and I tend to get along with Asian and Black women better than White women, even though I would be regarded as behaving White by some in my behavior and interests , but I have never felt the need to state that because my preference and attraction to White women doesn't have anything to do with how I feel about non white women.

    Having to acknowledge or defend my attraction to white women in relation to other women, specifically Black women, is part of the problem. It should not matter what I think of Black or Asian women!!!!, if I like or dislike them. I'm interested in hearing from fellow Black men who like White women on this forum no matter how they feel about other women. Black men who like Black women are not held to the standard of having to acknowledge or have goodwill to other women, why should I or other Black men who like White women have to even acknowledge our feelings on non white women? Are some BM on here affirming their love for other women because they don't want to be seen as playing into a stereotype of self hatred? I certainly think that might be the case.
     
  11. Sir Nose

    Sir Nose New Member

    On the contrary. It is only a struggle if you allow it to be. Simply refuse to tolerate ignorance.
     
  12. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    I wholeheartedly agree with you there. Why should anyone answer to LOVE in the first place, regardless of background? We all are here. We are all human and most importantly, we're here to progress. There's nothing stronger than a sensual attractive bond between people who truly love each other. Sadly, when eyes and mind are of a reactionary discourse, they somehow revisit deep seeded emotions of negativity, thus create a sphere of separation from what's inevitable: social change.

    However....

    The last part isn't about reaffirming their love of diversity out of fear of being labeled as self-hater. Rather, it's a reminder than we all have different tastes beyond someone's skin color. We still view the phenotype of someone as a sign of attraction, but we also don't jump into vitriol collectivism. So, your thoughts on people here are unfounded.
     
  13. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

    I don't think so with some people, and I'll throw out my tenure on here over yours in defense of that. We'll just disagree on this. Your mention about "a reminder" and "avoiding collectivism" are respectable sentiments, but collectivism doesn't have to be vitriolic, nor would having attraction to a one group necessarily constitute collectivism, especially given the other differences of opinion we have on here. I don't see how being attracted to one group would be anymore collectivist than the majority non attraction and non vitriolic response we have towards the transsexuals that come on here.
     
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  14. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    Can you prove that people are trying to "appease" non-white women by saying they are beautiful? Or do you think that it has more to do with you trying to comfort your own personal views on what constitutes beauty based on one ethnicity? Just because someone has a preference doesn't mean we limit ourselves to that preferences.
     
  15. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    That's very true. Very seldom does any of the bs phase me anymore; I do whatever I want to do regardless of what others think. I do admit though, there are rare occasions when I still let things wear on me, but I've learned how to shake it off & keep going.
     
  16. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    I think it is what you pay attention to or what you allow to affect you. I have never had an issue. Ever, I never give it the attention that most people do. The looks crack me up, the "whispers" tickle me. And if someone were bold enough to say something to me..........its just a green light for me to do what I do best. Destroy shit.

    ...calling it a struggles breaks up a negative connection that you have with being a black male (I hate the abbreviation by the way)...and says more about your feelings than it does about others.
     
  17. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

    Is that even provable? I never said appeasement of non white women, if anything it's appeasement of their guilty conscience. But this is my charge based on evidence I've seen on here: Some like other women equally, while some just want a little changeup, some BM just want to assert their right/ability to have an IR, and then there are those who prefer white women , yet the reality of AFFIRMING THAT and saying it loud and proud is probably a blow to there notions of Blackness or some other social pressure, many of these guys probably believe the negative stereotypes about Black men who like White women and don't want to be seen in that light. These dudes go into detail about other women for many reasons, some of it seems like over compensating.


    I'm not sure what you mean by "comforting", If my personal view on beauty was my gripe (and I'm insulted if you think it is) it would see the BBW thread gone from here. I find many of the Black or Asian women attractive in those threads. My preference (thin /pretty white women) has absolutely nothing to do with how I see some Black men on a site that has white women (also as half of the title) negotiate their attraction with those said women.

    This attraction to non white women though is just a small part of this overall issue of why some of the women are gone, I would be remiss if I didn't say some of these ladies drove each other off, but the sentiment of trying to downplay white women, whether it's in relation to their privileged status in society, their nationality, or some stereotype of white women who like Black men, is part of the negative undercurrent and many times articulated by the Black men on here.

    It's the attitude of "You're Not So Special"!!! Though I've never seen the ladies express that they thought they were, unless being a big girl who likes Black guys with muscles is evidence of thinking you're special. I've agreed with some of them on certain things, but many of the BM on here have issues with how they show their attraction to white women, or their relationship options in general.
     
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2011
  18. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    What I see from the whole "whites only" debate is insecurity. The same insecurity that exists on the Asian site I'm on when ever a non-Asian woman is posted. The same insecurity that is on the black site I am on...

    ...the same insecurity that comes when weight/size is talked about (even when a weight/size discussion has ZERO to do with degradation or disrespect). The self-defense mechanism comes in. "Don't worry girl you aren't that big" and the S.O.P is then to e-brow beat poster [A] because of a personal preference regarding size.

    MOST of the issues, at least in this thread, are not about "whites only" or "disrespect" but rather personal individual insecurity.
     
  19. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    MY GOD, THANK YOU MAX MOSLEY
     
  20. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    I forgot about that.
     

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