Should blacks vote for the clintons

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Basically the war on drugs waged by the Clinton's was a war on black?

 

Hillary didn't hold elected office when her husband was POTUS.

She didn't write, sign or vote on any legislation.
People need to stop holding her accountable for things she had nothing to do with.

Blacks have had a reason NOT to vote for every man who's run for President in this country since the colonies became the United States.

The point of voting is to put someone in office who you can pressure through input from your elected representatives and your own political activism to represent your interests.

I believe the entire Black Congressional Caucus at the time supported Clinton's crime bill.

If Clinton becomes the Democratic nominee for POTUS. are you saying Black folk should not vote for her and let Cruz/Trump end up in the WH??:smt101


You need to get hip to the folks who are really behind trying to convince Blacks not to vote for Hillary.

To pretend that Hillary Clinton is the one responsible for a criminal justice system that specifically targets young Black men and assumes they cannot be rehabilitated and deserve much harsher sentences is absurd.

Shit was fucked up for us before Hillary and Bill ever arrived in D.C.

For some reason people don't remember shit about the 1980s and all the mandatory prison sentences for drug possession and distribution.

I like the Young Turks but that clip really needs to be seen in its entirety.

I promise you that Hillary will do more legislatively to help Black folk than Obama ever did.

Truth.

 

She's running on his record and the supposed de facto authority that she had within his administration.

How many fucking times have we heard that she was his co-President?


http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/hillary-rodham-clinton/13/

And don't tell me about her political experience after Bubba left office.

There's no way in hell that she would have been elected to that New York Senate seat as a carpetbagger or been the presumptive nominee in '08, which lead to her being appointed Secretary of State after she lost to Obama without her husband's political stature.

She can't get all of the benefits of the Clinton name then turn around disavow all of the baggage (ie the detrimental effects that Clinton era policies had on the black community).

The only truth is that you and the rest of the Negroes who believe that the Clintons care about you and are acting in your best interest are severely deluded.

She's just as much as a corporate whore as Obama and isn't going to do a goddamn thing but service her donors once she's elected.


http://www.thenation.com/article/hillary-clinton-does-not-deserve-black-peoples-votes/

 

Yes,since Bernie is not that close with Blacks and the GOP candidates are not sensitive to Black needs.

 

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Bill Clinton versus black lives matter. He says something very interesting

 

Policies matter. Not empty pandering.

 

If Clinton ends up being the nominee? I say hell yes black voters should support Hillary Clinton. She's not perfect but on pretty much every major issue, whether it's the economy, civil rights, voting rights, who she'd appoint to the federal bench, she's leaps and bounds better than any Republican running. Even John Kasich, who's the "moderate," would be worse than Clinton.

Republicans all over the country are trying to legalize discrimination (North Carolina, Indiana, Georgia, Mississippi), make it more difficult to vote by passing unnecessary voter registration laws and closing down drivers' services locations (Alabama) and trying to make Confederate History Month an actual thing that exists (again, Mississippi).

I can't remember any other time in my life when conservatism was as openly hostile to minorities as it is now.

 

Wish I could rep you so on point

The only real option is Sanders for the entire 99% no matter what your race is

 

Exactly too many of these people don't read or look at voting records

 

She's NOT running on her husband's record.

Hillary has said explicitly she's running on Obama's record and wants to build upon what he accomplished in office.

Damn yall are funny.

Bill Clinton has been out of the WH for 16 years and you really think she's trying to be her husband???lol

She's been a presidential candidate, a U.S. Senator and Secretary of State.

Check that record and stop trying to prosecute the Bill Clinton administration because Hillary happens to be his wife.

That's gutter politics.

 

It's like you read my mind, lol. You nailed it.


AndreB, you know I normally love your POV's, but on this one, Frederick is spot on.

Expounding further about her then "political" role, here's an excerpt:

The First Lady's role in the secret proceedings of the Health Care Task Force also sparked litigation in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, in relation to the Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA) which requires openness in government.
The Clinton White House argued that the Recommendation Clause in Article II of the U.S. Constitution would make it unconstitutional to apply the procedural requirements of FACA to Mrs. Clinton's participation in the meetings of the Task Force. Some constitutional experts argued to the court that such a legal theory was not supported by the text, history, or structure of the Constitution.[18] Ultimately, Hillary Clinton won the litigation in June 1993, when the D.C. Circuit ruled narrowly that the First Lady of the United States could be deemed a government official (and not a mere private citizen) for the purpose of not having to comply with the procedural requirements of FACA.[19][20]

 

The only person that a newly elected president can go to for pointers on the ends and outs of being president, is a former president. I think we would be kidding ourselves if we think Hillary won't be leaning heavly on Bill's experience. If Hillary gets elected we will most likely see a return of the "co-president" Clintons.

Now to answer the question. I think black folks should support whoever they want, I just don't want them to blindly follow people like Hillary without knowing what she REALLY stands for.

I won't be supporting her, because of the way she conducts her campaigns. Like when her and her husband used race baiting to undermine Obama in 2008. And how her campaign is currently trying to paint Bernie's campaign as a haven for sexists. I know all politicians tell lies and half truths from time to time, but I haven't seen a front runner this shady since the first president Clinton.

 

I vote Dr Phil.

 

You don't get a vote Austin

 

Seriously, Bliss??

I love ya, but this is all a cheap shot attack against Hillary by her political opponents.

JOE BIDEN authored(!!) the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994.

Nearly every Democrat in Congress signed it, including Bernie Sanders.:smt018

Hillary advocated for the Bill, but she did not write it or sign it into law.

And for those expressing mock outrage over the use of the term 'super predator' never experienced the horror and brutality of drug gangs in the 1990s.

The entire 'super predator' phrase, in context used by Hillary.

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Tell me did Hillary use the term incorrectly??

She was talking about gang bangers, not Black criminal defendants in general.

BlackLivesMatter was FOS for attacking Hillary for using the term 'super predators'.

Sorry, but when you join a gang that requires you to murder a rival or random innocent bystander to become a member, or do a drive by against a group of teens to kill ONE of them because they 'disrespected' you at the mall, you are a super predator.

Sorry but that's the truth.

For those who question the accuracy of Hillary using the term 'super predator', I'll refer you to those who lived in the DMV in the 1990s and one of THE most ultra violent gangs in D.C., the Simple City Crew.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/daily/april/21/gangs.htm?ref=driverlayer.com/web



There are no saints in politics, but going after Hillary like she was heading a lynch mob to incarcerate all young Black men is crazy.

This is part of the reason I don't take BlackLivesMatter seriously.

They're trying to earn their activist stripes by finding a cause to fight, but accusing Hillary of calling all young Blacks 'super predators' is a distortion and an outright lie.

 

Hahaha

 

If you are looking for a saint in ANY politician, forget it because all politicians are crap. You choose the lesser of two evils period. If you have Hilary on one hand or Trump/Cruz on the other, will her supposed baggage matter in comparison to those two. A lot of green card holders have decided to become American citizens this year just to vote against a character like Donald Trump. That Trump is leading the GOP pack is a new low in American politics. Blacks wi definitely vote for Hilary, fuck the baggage she has.

 

Dear AndreBoba, here we agree again. I was referring only to her political "nepotism"in my response, as I actually do feel what Bill said to the hecklers was spot on. The communities being devastated back then were primarily Black neighborhoods, and it did slowly diminish as a result.
I believe Hilary or Bill also clarified that she was referring to the druglords and dealers.
Yes, it is a distortion for political gain,you are correct, and Sanders can preach integrity all he wants, his crew is likely behind the protests. This is a dirty race.

 

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That's bullshit. The "superpredator" theory was about the current generation of inner city children at that time not adult drug dealers. Painting it otherwise is revisionism.

The Clintons were masters of using coded language to try to appeal to blue collar white voters while hamming it up in front of black people. That shit worked in the 90s when it was much easier to control the message, but it doesn't work now. People who deny what they're about are either ignorant or willfully ignorant.

And Bill's response wasn't right at all. Those policies didn't do anything to address the underlying cause of the problems in those communities. They led to mass incarceration and millions of black men who didn't belong behind bars being swept up with the people were actually causing trouble.

The fact that anybody can tell the black community that we're better off because of those laws when the rate of incarceration is several times what it was during the Jim Crow era is laughable.

https://www.laprogressive.com/black-men-prison-system/

http://www.npr.org/2012/01/16/145175694/legal-scholar-jim-crow-still-exists-in-america

 

That's a grand statement. Can you elaborate, because it seems you are essentially saying they were innocent and they committed no crimes, or do you mean whatever they did, did not deserve jail time?