"She is white" is their main issue

Gee! Where do I begin? 'He was stunned. No response. Check mate--I won.'
But, are you right? Of course her white male boss did not know how to respond to a black woman yelling at him in his office about a racial issue that he did not witness in the first place. How could he respond? His gender alone would betray him. Women win most arguments in part because men lack the ability to verbally counter-attack. Just as Floyd Mayweather Jr. 'scientifically' proved that a woman can't take a punch to the head very well.
Just because you have an advantage over someone does not make you right, especially in a surprise attack, this guy did not see it coming and it is unlikely that he could defend himself without being immersed to some extent within black culture.

If I was in Japan and I saw an ethnic based incident occur between a Korean couple and a Japanese woman I would not have the knowledge or background to successfully deal with the issue, unless I was immersed in both cultures in such a way as to come to a fair conclusion.

'These relationships, in my opinion' so this is just another opinion based post after all, we all have opinions who cares about hers? There is no science here.

I know the history of black people very well, no new info here.

She thinks, she knows WWBM couples so well as if they are all the same. I think that falls under prejudice.

'You do not disparage the womb of the women that carried you...in order to justify the reason you chose to lay with one, who's ancestors tried to destroy those that look like you.'

I agree with the first part to an extent I don't think any black male should hate black women, even though in my own life I have heard black women say the most viscous, twisted and destructive things ever spoken about black men. The Ku Klux Kan has nothing on black women when it comes to spewing hate against black men.

I know these attacks damage black boys psychologically, there are black boys that go to preschool thinking their name is nigga, before a teacher calls them by their actual name. Many black women simply do not care, what their behavior does to black boys. In fact most do not even consider it, at all. I have never heard one of them tell other black women to stop their attacks on black men. The solidarity between black women is often stronger than the oath of the mob.

This is all dirty laundry. When I first joined this website the last thing I wanted to talk about was just this stuff. But, I am inclined to do so because I don't want you to fall for this propaganda.

 

There's a Property Mentality...

There's a property mentality or obligation for people to think they OWN them. In the case of black women, they would go out on a lamb and talk about the historical struggles we all as a group had to overcome. And of course, naming examples of the struggles such as slavery is most apparent. And they feel it's a sense of betrayal as a people, which I personally find silly. We're all human beings first and foremost.

 

Bloody amazing post, my dear! :smt038

 

Thanks, it was just the truth. I don't know if Lena ever read it, she left the forum shortly after her post. It may have been in vain to open my self up like that.

It was interesting to see how I was when I first joined. I never was a part of any forum before, I never went to a chat room before, it is still new to me in many ways.

I have pulled back since those early posts, in terms of 'showing myself'. I have learned that for some people the 'e-life' is an extension of their ego. That is just not how I am.

(Finishing my thought, hours later, LOL!) I was hoping that what I shared would be beneficial and what I received would be beneficial in return.

 

I disagree.

 

powerful!!!!

powerful!!!

 

1. bnvillage is a whole nother place. I am a member there. he he he they LOVE ME (sarcasm)

2. There are two sides to this, and I have often been on the side of the black man in that little tale....and that is all I am going to say about that.

 

Good posts BBW and Botoan.

When I read propaganda such as this article (great choice of words Bo), I get so frustrated. I know that atrocities were and are committed based on skin colour or family standing or sex or sexual orientation. But when that argument comes out that all white people are evil or at the very least related to evil people, I must remind folks that slavery began long before Europeans sailed to Africa.

And on a personal note, if I labelled every person based on what one person did to me personally I wouldn't be attracted to BM because very early in life I was seriously hurt by a BM. Does that mean all BM or all black people are evil like he was? Absolutely not, that's an immature and juvenile view of the world.

Should I hate all men because historically women were and in many places still are the worst treated humans on earth? Absolutely not. It's well beyond time to grow the f&%k up and realize that not all people of a certain colour or certain sex or certain nationality are the same nor are they all responsible for that woman's unhappiness.

 

Apples and oranges, apples and organs, the state of race relations between black and whites not simply because one white person did something to another place person...

..and the comparison cheapens what is a real problem in our society. There is a problem with those who keep living in the past, but also a problem when folk act as if it is not all good, all equal, and no problem..

...your reply reeks of "Just get over it" which is another line that sort of ticks me off.

 

Shouldn't we just get over it? We're not doing ourselves any favors by dwelling on the past. Its good to know history so you don't repeat the same mistakes but holding onto pain makes us weak. I don't know what its going to take for human beings to live in harmony but I know dwelling on shit we can't change now isn't the answer.

 

Ymra, I agree with you on both accounts and please know that I am aware that things are not all good nor all equal. I am very aware of this and live my life in a manner that promotes equality and fairness.

My issue is that too many people are blaming those that are alive today for transgressions of the past. I know that everyone here thinks that I am as white as the driven snow, but in fact I am a registered Metis nation member in Canada.

Yet I do not hold the Brits nor the French nor the Canadian government responsible for everything that goes wrong in my life or the lives of the people that surround me. Rather than complaining and lumping everyone together as a group of white devils or british evil-doers, I am proactive in my community and realize that individuals do not represent the past.

Agreed, telling a racist to grow up is extreme and I could have used more tact but the reality is, if she sees a problem - instead of blowing up at "the man" and making all these ridiculous generalizations, she could be more proactive and less reactive to her situation.

 

Or we should take a page from every third worlder who comes here and fight with being educated and being business owners. All the grandstanding and complaining won't make up for the fact that immigrants are coming here and out performing everyone. At least white people have being white to fall back on. Black people don't have that luxury and need to wake up. Julio, Raj, Jing, and Sali shouldn't be doing better than all the Jamals and Tyrones who were born here.

 

I get what you are saying but you error when you try to compare Canada's past to America with regards to race relations. Are whites in America living today responsible for that past ills of our society...of course not.

...but they ARE beneficiaries to the spoils of those ills through the current system of laws, polices, and social norms.

Still today non-whites make less for the same jobs as whites
Still today non-whites are given business loans at lower rates and at higher interest rates than whites
Study journal of social did a small study that suggest college professors give higher scores for the same work to whites than non-whites..

...I mean I'd be here all day.

So absolutely not, that's silly.......are people today responsible for what happened in the past. NO....but to pretend that whites today are not benefiting is equally silly.

 

What do you propose as a solution or at the very least grass roots efforts to effect change?

 

If you don't experience the injustice you tend not to care as much. That's plain facts.

 

Education and entrepenuership are the only ways. Taking advantage of cheap African labor.

 

The biggest single issue that stops change...

....seriously, is whites pretending change has already come, its equal, all is right in the world. That's more damaging than out right racism because it creates a loathing of the other

"Damn......I was raised to love people not matter their color, I'm not racist...but why can't they get a job like everyone else"

...a level of ignorance not understanding that the policies that kept non-whites back are still in place. We also have to get beyond that point where we are afraid to talk about race (this site is a good example).

non-white have to stop pretending if every single white person is out to hurt them, despise them, or see them as something exotic, or like a pet to be had....or just sitting and waiting with baited breath to say Nigger. No one race as the premium on ignorance.

 

being whites means never having to think about it. "James Baldwin"

 

Nearly everyone faces their own injustices. Simply because my skin is paler than yours doesn't mean I haven't experienced racism or more constantly sexism. To write a white person off as having never experienced injustice is closing the door to dialogue.

I like to refocus that energy into a direction that is positive and actually makes a difference instead of complaining and sitting on my ass when shit needs to get done. Not saying you are doing that, but I bet $10 the woman in the article is doing exactly that.

 

That is a huge part of the problem... many whites dont socialize, at all, with any one non - white so its easy for them to think that no injustice exists.

I had this discussion with a new coworker I was training.. I dont know why we got to "white privilege" but he seriously looked at me as if I was growing a second head. When I brought up the expamles you pointed out above (such as loans etc) He litterally thought I wass making it up.

It is not like he is a racist - far from it - just completely and utterly unaware.....
Why aret such topics taught at school so that we can get an awareness of such things as white privilege etc..

Yes some needs to stop living in the past, that is a part of the problem, but even so - we will not get anywhere unless we do away with the ignorance of the subject within the white community....