Russell Simmons says Romney/Ryan will "destroy our people"

I agree with current stance of Moromon relgion towards IR

 

And that's partially why there could be a legitimate reason as to why people would assume Romney is a racist because he belongs to a Christian denomination that were overtly against having blacks based on their belief system. Then again, you have people like Gladys Knight, Mia Love, and other minorities partaking in the religion, so the perception of racism is diminishing, though the official chance is highly questionable.

 

I agree with your critique of Russell Simmons' questionable business practices. He should be ashamed of the usurious rates debit/credit card charges and how hypocritical he sounds. And I'm not saying definitively that Romney is a racist, only that he claims a faith with openly racist doctrines (until a couple of decades ago, and many of which remain unreformed) as central to his life and worldview. It provides reasonable basis for questioning.

 

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That was amazing. And a lovely story.

 

This is an amazing point.

 

Romney/Ryan is the Gilded Age ticket, straight unabashed "horse and sparrow" economics.

Another thing, what was Romney thinking nominating a guy who sponsored a bill to privatize social security? Talk about electoral suicide.

 

You just taught me new term for supply side economics. Thanks buddy

 

Don't mention it

 

In the words of the great Chuck D: "Brothers gonna work it out!"

 

Word

 

I don't think those "conservative" ideas are just bad for black people, I think they're bad for people who sell their labor in general, white, black, green, purple.

 

I find some of the Moron Church's past !9th Century *doctrines to be racist and sexist. (The one you outlined and multiple wives). *(As I do in every institutionalized Religions, Inc)

As for Romney, it would depend on which faith he followed. The founder of LDS became an active abolitionist and indoctrinated that into the religion. He encouraged and ordained Black Priests until his murder. His successor was the racist.

So what did Romney (who criticized Rick Perry's family's former property use of N..Head) believe and espouse as a missionary?, is the question. Do you truly think he feels what you wrote?

Btw, I researched the religion and the (Black) skin reference were of indigenous people of the Americas and the Polynesian people, which they refereed to as Lamanites, (versus the Nephites), who apparently rebelled against Christianity (be they Black or white, male or female). It is quite complicated, that Book of Mormon and they speak in contradictions, like many religions.

This was an interesting read, also...

http://mormon.org/faq/mormon-members?gclid=CMODofTx47ECFYhM4AodpnoA6w

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_and_the_Latter_Day_Saint_movement

 

I read that the primary reason they modified those doctrines was to justify their efforts to expand into the South Pacific, where they have converted a lot of Afro-Asiatic indigenous peoples (Melanesia, Polynesia)

 

I will assume you aren't meaning that just because the text doesn't specifically address black people, that the discrimination toward native people makes it ok.

I won't just assume it. I will know that to be the case. We disagree on quite the few subjects but I know that you aren't supporting it.

I do find it interesting that you draw that distinction. It's in the spirit of explaining the discrimination.

Given that though, It's still a questionable stance to hold as a president. It's religious dogma. It has NO place in government.

 

The scriptural items about these fictitious tribes were the Native American bits they worked into their theology. But they had views on specifically black people, that were held until my middle school years.

 

Yeah.

I...don't know.

Glad I'm not (and wasn't raised) Mormon.

I'm not against Mormons..I just think being human is fucking hard enough with out having all the less Christian aspects encouraged by Christianity.

 

Any religion that divides based on circumstance and not qction is one not worth following

 

I thought those references were actually the founding scriptures and they later modified the doctrines to remove all racist references. See? they really do have confusing, contradictory doctrines and again, their racial and sexist 'rationales' they have creep me out.

BTW, touching on the dates you mentioned, they abolished Bringham's ban on Black clergy in '78. Can you believe even after the Civil Rights Movement, they didn't officiate any formal reversal until a decade later.

 

Can I just remind people that Paul Ryan is in close proximity to Michelle "pray the gay away" bachmann.

Who is a slave apologist.

While I can't even begin to understand this whole notion at all, I believe the gist of it is that the Africans and the generations after the original slaves were bought and sold as property and brutally beaten and murdered actually LIKE slavery and were thankful to their owners for their slavery.

That just makes so much rational sense that my brain just died and had 3 back to back orgasms.

May I also interject that he believes whole heartedly in Social Darwinism.
If that doesn't scare the shit out of people then I firmly believe that nothing would.

Lord of the Flies political style.

*shudders*

And if you think that slave apologist only have backassward views on slavery in America, let me share this little bit hea:
Doug Wilson:

Wilson argues that women should only be allowed to date with their father’s permission; that if a woman is raped, the rapist should pay the father a bride price and then, if the father approves, marry his victim; and that gay men and lesbians are “sodomites” and “people with foul sexual habits.” The biblical punishment for homosexuality, he adds, is not necessarily death, though it could be under biblical law — exile is another possibility.

I don't know about anyone else..but this shit right here is scary. Terrifying.