Reverse Racism

Yes but there will always be parents who keep preaching their kids stereotypes about other races and media feeds into that a well.And this is nothing only white people do.
I think a world without any racism or stereotypes about other races is a utopia and all we can do is learn a bit and try to make it a bit better.

 

as long as one black parent says they dont want their children dating or marrying a white person, there will be the reverse racism(not discrimination as that is about power) but racism which is about the held belief that one race is better or more special than the next.

so yes for sure there is reverse racism. and espically with hate groups like NOI running around. SPLC that many blacks get information about about hate groups around the country labels NOI a hate group as well

 

been black all my life for 42 years and i have never been through what Jellybird has--sad to hear he suffered those racists acts, but i have never had that from a boss, i am 6'3 210lb, never even had a white person make a derogatory comment especially in business or education, other thank providing support and praise. been pulled over once for speeding and had the nicest white police officer who just said, "sorry to pull ya over but clocked you at 71 coming off a hill" apologizing as he had to give me a ticket.
so we can have different experiences as blacks in america, and react diff too.

 

dj4monie – Directing your bitterness towards a group because you cant identify the perpetrator is unjust and unreasonable.
The whites on this Board are women. Women make up over 50% of the world’s population but own 1% of its wealth. Despite the fact we are the majority – we are under-represented in corporations, in the judicial system and in politics. Our society is sexist – as Beautiful86 said - women are more likely to suffer from domestic violence, be raped, controlled and made to feel inferior. So how can you ask women to accept responsibility for 200 years of persecution of black people? How silly does it sound if I demand that you accept responsibility for a long history of discrimination against women? (And don’t think the (almost) first female US president gets you off the hook). Your experiences are going to be different but you cant rate one injustice over the other.
Things could always be worse – you could live in Darfur and I could live in Saudi Arabia. Or we could both be born female and black.

 

I talked about the president election to a few people and except for 1 person they agreed that a man would be better for the job than a woman.
That really surprised me. In Germany our chancellor is a woman-Angela Merkel- and she is doing her job well,trying to make the best out of the situation she started off with

 

We all suffer from and see racism everyday, we just dont pay attention to it. Large corporations and retailers we frequent that have no black or minority mangement or choose to put their minority managers in urban stores. (I hope most people are smarter than to believe the company line that they dont have any qualified people.)

(And I dont see what my professor said as derogatory or racist, he is just someone who is willing to say what others are not.)

 

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Hardly bitter, read what I wrote most people don't.

Are all White People responsible for everything that happens to people of color?

NO

I am not Nom Chomsky, so I can't speak to where you can understand it and still get my point across.

I now offically qualify anything I say as not all-inclusive

I shouldn't have to do that, none of you are 10 years old. I couldn't possibly be talking about every person walking the planet.

As Choosen One said, Black People don't control anything IMPORTANT, so we can not enforce policy or law that would directly effect Caucasians.

But most White People seem to be horrified and shocked if somebody points a finger and labels them a racist or a bigot.

That is a big step forward, in a sence. Only because our media constantly follows you around with that label. So for public figures they don't wanna be labeled anything negative.

For Joe/Jane Blow, ummm nobody holds you accountable but your peers and to be frank not enough White people keep their own people IN-Check.

But we are told by the powers that be to keep our own people in-check before we help you with rebuilding inner cites, yadda, yadda, yadda.

That's called a DOUBLE STANDARD

The White Women on this board instead of posting "I'm not racist" give us more credit for being intelligent enough to figure that out without you telling us and without you rushing to defend yourself.

Stop protecting bad White people under the guise of "Don't talk badly about my people..."

That's what I don't understand.

All we are asking you do to, is not get your Right Wing talking points from talking heads you see on TV or from known conservative newspapers.

I again am NOT saying ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE RACIST!

I am saying that most of you NOBODIES aren't RACIST but stop supporting and voting against your own interest, stop letting race be a divider in public discussions and don't point back when we say White People are Racist, we are NOT talking about YOU PERSONALLY, defend yourself and your actions not your RACE that's stupid.

I am not asking you to accept anything and I strongly denounce even when NOT ASKED violence against women, child or other people. But your White life is more viable world wide than a Black life and that's fact, but you can make sure Black life is just as viable as you own, but not in a reckless fashion like so many White women tend to do, going to War Zones and Standing in Front of Bulldozers...

How is that being BITTER?

 

Assuming you mean america and Europe...cos that statement dont hold in Africa; especially in south africa..and Zimbabwe...

 

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That's the truth! Esp Zimbabwe !!

 

dj4monie - I cant believe you gave me the bug-eyed emoticon and then proceed to hit me with a whole swag of condescending and misplaced remarks?

No one is asking you to qualify your statements. No one wants you to state the bleeding obvious that not all whites are racist. No one has jumped to the defense or are protecting bad white people (must be those voices in your head). No one is denying that blacks have been systematically persecuted or that whites generally enjoy more privileged lives. You are missing the point. You have been defending the vitriolic remarks that individual black people are directing at individual white people (read the original post and Beautiful86 comments) – and you don’t think that’s a DOUBLE STANDARD? You have been harping on about how white people should ACCEPT these sorts of outbursts and take OWNERSHIP of the resentment of black people. In my other response to you I was substituting racism with sexism to try and get you to see your comments from a different perspective – and that your reaction isn’t reasonable or appropriate. Obviously I missed the mark since you assumed that I was fishing for your denouncement of violence towards women. Which I wasn’t. Do you think you should accept insults by bitter women and stand accountable for all the misdeeds of bad men out there? No – you shouldn’t.

I don’t know how young you are – darling - but wait until you get out and see more of the world because not everything is black and white. There are races at war with each other all over the planet – not just white v black. All your references to American education/media/home loan practices/celebrities are lost on me - and many others on this Board – because we are not all American. But even though im a ‘nobody’ I do what i can in my community to assist those who are marginalised or vulnerable so I don’t need you telling me im failing at it, going about it the wrong way (standing in front of bulldozers?? WTF?) or should be doing more - like I (a white woman) can bring out the big arse broom and sweep all this racist shit up. Why don’t you pitch in and help? If you are really concerned about bringing back the love - stop throwing out random derogatory remarks on a public Board (you said it in the bolded comment above). As they say, you catch more bees with honey than vinegar...

 

This is a response to some of the posters who say black people can’t really be racist because they don’t have any institutional power to affect other races.

Well, as some posters say racism primarily manifests itself institutionally. Surely, from an African perspective, we (African countries) can exercise institutional power, just as western countries do. Some African governments have laws that lessen the opportunities, for white people and other races. And these laws are not always as a response to misdeeds from the past. I know this is a white and black forum, but this example is relevant.Uganda, a country in East Africa once had a leader called Idi Amin. Well, he decided he wanted to kick out a significant proportion of the countries Asian population, so that he could improve black economic opportunities. The major problem was that Asians ran large chunks of the economy. So the economy suffered as a result. The reason he kicked these people out was because they were Asian; they had never done any thing to him or the country…so this was a racist act …and as he ran the government, an institutionally racist act.

Sure, the west can apply pressure to African governments to do it ‘their way’, but as we all know, African governments don’t always listen, even if they suffer as result. Look at Zimbabwe, the government is able to exercise its institutional power on white farmers, by kicking them of the countries land. Yes, this is in response to past sufferings (some argue the farmers shouldn’t have that land in the first place, buts that’s another debate altogether). But the point here is, Robert Mugabe and his government are able to exercise their institutional powers on another race and make them suffer as a result. Something which some people think black people are incapable of doing.

All in all, we are all capable of racism… 8)

Now a little poetry from the great South African president.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWTixmmtamE

 

That's what I mean. 8)

I'm not speaking of Africa because:

1) I haven't been there and it wouldn't be fair of me to speak about the culture of an entire continent that I've never traveled too...(I hope to someday though)

AND

2) Africans aren't as likely to be encounter racism on the basis of race with relation to whites on that continent (certainly not after the colonial era)....I would guess most prejudice there is related to class, ethnic group etc. and not so much a black-white dynamic.

 

Brilliant Swaziking. And a beautiful message from Mbeki.
There is something about the way Africans express themselves, so tender and moving, it just draws me in and makes my heart beat a little faster. :smt049

 

well...

i guess this must be a fact since O' Reilly said it

 

Out in the world, LOL

Mexico, Canada, Germany, France, Belgium, UK, Sweden, Norway, The Netherlands and The Ukraine.

That's my FIRST go around.

Passport has several stamps in it, I've been around WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?

I am not defending hate speech by uneducated Black Folk. I am saying, stop being shocked, focus on how to fix the problem instead of jumping up and down saying "Their racist, their racist" that doesn't solve SHIT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syeiiob_DoI

Amy Goodman ask WHY people say what they do!

Listen (watch) she tells you WHO'S EVIL

 

Thanks...Mbeki speech is good. It leaves me feeling all nostalgic.

 

Dj - I think we could dance this dance until christmas and still be stepping on each others toes (and i hear some black men have a foot fetish - so id like to look after mine). so im calling a truce. I don't like finishing anything on a bad note so please accept a big juicy one on your cheek :smt058

and i did watch and listen to your links.

 

WTF??!!! Please somebody! In a couple of those links---


Tell me some of those kids aren't throwing up gang signs.

The foolishness has reached the outback. We got Aborigines reppin the Crip nation. :shock:

Now I done witnessed everything.

 

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Shaft2k4,

I don't know what gang signs look like - but maybe they are.
I would suggest that they have little to no idea of what it ACTUALLY means. What group of people represents "coloured" minorities in the media? African American. What culture do "coloured" kids emulate over here? African American.

I can tell you, from my experience, any islander, polynesian, aboriginal kid who is following fashion and is trying to be a little edgy/hard-core will dress ghetto. I assume that not only is it fashionable and popular at the moment, but that if I am a "coloured" minority, I less likely to emulate/idolise justin timberlake and am more likly to emulate lil wayne (or someone - i don't know who's popular). The sudanese people here take it to the extreme - those guys are wearing like XXXXL shirts and these dudes must weigh about 50kg, if they're lucky. They are an amusing bunch to observe. Surely nice people though.

They're not copying white dudes though, are they? Dark kids don't copy white music stars - they copy black music stars (in general). They would not have any idea what the symbolism is of much they copy and probably don't get what/why it is.

I'm sure there are some gangs that are happening here - from the AA gangs - but our organised crime revolves mostly around bikees - rebels, hells angels, etc...Mafia and crime families (usually italian/greek communities) and some triad stuff. Also some lebanese.

As you are aware - gang culture has seeped into HipHop, etc...and become popularised - that's pretty much all I can see. Of course, I could be wrong, but...I don't think that the Cripps would have much interest in a branch 1000km from the coast, in a mission with 200 people! Besides, no-one could afford their drugs anyway haha. just mucking around.

 

My comment was tongue in cheek (sort of). I know that two fingers up in a "v" shape could mean victory (or peace?) That's with the two fingers straight up. When those two fingers are horizontal with the back of the hand facing outward then it's no longer the victory sign. Not 100% sure if it's a gang sign either though.

50kg eh? oh you Aussies and your "metrics." :wink: Converted to pounds that's 110? Yeah, xxxxl would look like he was wearing a circus tent pretty much.

Right now i'm picturing the gangs from "Mad Max" and the "Road Warrior". (Sorry couldn't help myself . I love those movies. :lol: )

Seriously, i've been wanting to make it to Australia for like ten years now. A good friend of mine stayed in Townsville for a couple of months in the early nineties. He had a great time. I heard the flight is crazy long though. Sometimes when I fly the leg room situation isn't the greatest, but I can deal with it. I rarely am on a plane more than six hours. The last time I flew United Air I must have been in the "midget" section because I felt like I was doing yoga. A nineteen hour plus flight and I would have needed medication. But as long as the leg room is decent I could probably handle it ok.