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Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bliss, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

  2. RicardoCooper

    RicardoCooper Well-Known Member

    Of course if he wins, the sTroNg bLaCk wOmeN alone will get the credit
     
  3. RicardoCooper

    RicardoCooper Well-Known Member

    I think Bookie & Bliss are on the wrong site
     
  4. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Kamala dropped out of the Presidential Race because she was polling at 1%.
    (after her high of 15% in her early run stage).

    Last night, she was supposed to sway Hispanics. Telemundo pulled their Twitter poll when it hit 75/25 in favor of Pence.
     
  5. Skaddix

    Skaddix Well-Known Member

    Why was she suppose to sway Hispanics? Kamala basically got picked cause she is the least bad Black Female option available...not a leftist, not a previous GOP target, some Name Rec, etc.

    Bigger issue is the FBI busting Trumpster White Right Wing Terrorist and their coup plot in Michigan.
     
  6. JordanC

    JordanC Well-Known Member

    The underlined below is what I believe is what we have going on here. Republicans in Independents clothes. If you speak Republican...you are. And you are being called out because of it.



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    The identity that people choose most often is actually ‘independent’ – not Democratic or Republican. Victor Moussa/Shutterstock.com
    Don't be fooled – most independents are partisans too
    Christopher Devine, University of Dayton
    January 27, 2020 7.20am EST
    Will Donald Trump win reelection in 2020? To find out, you’d think you could just look up whether more Americans are registered as Republicans than Democrats.

    But the truth is, it doesn’t really matter which party you register with on paper. Besides, 19 states don’t even register voters by party.

    What really matters is what political scientists like myself call your “political identity” – your psychological attachment to a political group, such as a party or an ideological movement.

    That’s why political science surveys ask people, “Generally speaking, do you think of yourself as a Republican, a Democrat, an independent, or what?”

    This question aims to find out how you see yourself – essentially, which team are you on? This is how many people make sense of the political world.

    American independents?
    According to the Gallup polling firm, the identity that people choose most often is actually “independent” – not Democratic or Republican. In 2019, 42% of Americans chose this label – up from the low 30s just 15 years earlier, in 2004.

    However, three-quarters of these “independents” admit, when asked, that they lean toward favoring the Democratic or Republican Party. Judging by how they vote or what they think of national political leaders, the truth is that these “leaners” really are partisans rather than independents. Apparently, many people who like to think of themselves as independent-minded and free of party influence aren’t.


    So, why call themselves independents? Typically, according to one leading study, it is “not because they disagree with the parties ideologically or politically but because being a party member is embarrassing.”

    In fact, only about 10% of Americans are what political scientists call “pure independents” – that is, people who identify as independents and claim not to favor either of the two major parties. Nor has that percentage grown in recent years. This means that the vast majority of Americans – consistently around 90% – are partisans, whether they like to admit it or not.

    So, which party do more Americans identify with – Democratic or Republican?

    The Democratic Party, usually.

    According to the Gallup poll in late 2019, 47% of Americans either called themselves Democrats or admitted leaning toward the Democratic Party, versus 42% for Republicans and 11% independents. However, there are some signs that Republicans gained ground on Democrats in recent months.

    Historically speaking, there have always been more Democrats than Republicans in the American electorate – with rare and very brief exceptions – ever since Gallup began polling party identification in the 1930s.

    But identifying with a party is not the same as voting for it. Self-identified Democrats are less likely than Republicans to turn out to vote – particularly in midterm elections. This is because young people and other Democratic constituencies tend to be more engaged by the spectacle of a presidential election.

    That should be good news for Democrats this year - since, in the 2018 midterms, they won back the House of Representatives. It figures that Democrats would be even more energized to defeat Donald Trump at the polls in 2020. Right?

    Not so fast. Recently, Gallup asked Americans whether they are more enthusiastic about voting in 2020 than in previous elections. As it turns out, Republicans are just as enthusiastic about voting as Democrats. This is unusual. In previous elections, the party out of power always expressed more enthusiasm. But not this time. In 2020, partisans on both sides are highly energized.

    The good news for Democrats is that there may be more of them to mobilize in 2020 than there are Republicans. The bad news is that Republicans are united behind President Trump – and ready to vote.

    Will Democrats nominate a presidential candidate who can fire up their party’s base, too? Chances are, that will matter more than winning over the small slice of American voters who don’t identify with either party.

    Editor’s note: This is an updated version of an article that originally ran on Oct. 17, 2018.

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    Christopher Devine
    Assistant Professor of Political Science, University of Dayton

    Christopher Devine does not work for, consult, own shares in or receive funding from any company or organisation that would benefit from this article, and has disclosed no relevant affiliations beyond their academic appointment.

    University Of Dayton provides funding as a member of The Conversation US.


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  7. RicardoCooper

    RicardoCooper Well-Known Member

    Nothing new here. If you're not a Democrat, you're a Republican. They just want to duck and dodge the GOP stigma. "Progressives" claim that Dems are "Republican lite" yet they run against liberals and help actual Republicans win. Make that make sense.
     
  8. Tony Soprano

    Tony Soprano Moderator

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  9. Tony Soprano

    Tony Soprano Moderator

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  10. JordanC

    JordanC Well-Known Member

    :p no I did not....so I underlined the main gist of the article
     
  11. JordanC

    JordanC Well-Known Member

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  12. tp480

    tp480 Well-Known Member

  13. Tony Soprano

    Tony Soprano Moderator

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    Tony Soprano Moderator

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  15. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    The shame of it all is they made that choice when they chose to support the mockery of the presidency he represents, yet it's the entire country suffering the consequences.
     
  16. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Don't forget the tax cuts that benefited no one but the rich.
     
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2020
  17. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    They have shown themselves to not give a single fuck about this country or its people. Not a single so called patriot amongst. They'll burn everything to cinder and look for another host to suck the life out of. Not a single piece of legislation to protect provide or care for American citizens.
     
  18. Othello1967

    Othello1967 Active Member

  19. Othello1967

    Othello1967 Active Member

    Human beings are complicated.
     
  20. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    That's really like asking how can someone with a mother beat women
     

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