Random Political comments...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bliss, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. Thump

    Thump Well-Known Member

    Where I live Winco is considerably cheaper than WalMart. Every 1st and 15th of the month is like Black Friday in that sombitch.
     
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  2. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    https://www.mediaite.com/online/for...veals-barn-incident-and-harassment-complaint/

    "Last week, we reported that Nadia Naffe, self-described “accomplice” to conservative activist James O’Keefe , had begun publishing a multi-part tell-all series of posts to her blog. Thursday morning, Naffe published the second part, which details her version of the events that led her to file a criminal harassment complaint against O’Keefe in November, and which includes documents related to a sexual harassment settlement between O’Keefe and “CNN Sex Boat Caper” whistleblower Izzy Santa. O’Keefe filed suit against Naffe on Wednesday to obtain an injunction against publication of those documents, and of emails that O’Keefe claims she stole from his computer."

    "According to a settlement document released by Ms. Naffe, O’Keefe paid Santa $20,000 (a little less than half of what she was demanding) with no admission of liability, and with a confidentiality clause."
     
  3. Madeleine

    Madeleine Well-Known Member

    It’s not realistic for journalists to be able to name their sources because they wouldn’t be sources for very long then. The sources would get fired or killed. I don’t treat newspapers like the Holy Word, there’s bound to be error and mistake every now and then, but it remains that they play an important role in a democracy and it is wrong to discredit all journalists as a whole. The normal process for a journalist is to verify a piece of information from several sources. Also it is very unrealistic of you to think you have better access to information and will come closer to the truth by sitting in your room and researching the internet for little soundbites of what the people „actually said themselves“.
     
  4. Madeleine

    Madeleine Well-Known Member

    Zuma has resigned! At least some good things happening in SA and Zimbabwe.
     
  5. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member

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  6. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

  7. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

  8. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Sure is.
    Did you read it?
    "...Russia’s effort to interfere with the U.S. political system dates back to at least 2014, according to the indictment. By September 2016, just before the presidential election, the monthly budget for election interference operations was more than $1.25 million...."

    Interference isn't colllusion. Interference has always happened.
    Obama was accused of it by Netanyahu against him during the Israeli elections.

    Now, if they could just indict George Soros for the same, that would be great......
     
  9. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    Oh, it's totally a witch hunt. Move along folks, nothing to see here! #FakeNews #LockHerUp #MAGA #BuildTheWall
     
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  10. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Mueller seems desperate now..
    • Indictment says Russia-run 'Internet Research Agency' employees set up fake Facebook groups and Twitter accounts to support Trump and oppose Clinton
    • ....
    • No allegation is made of a conspiracy or collusion that includes the Trump campaign itself
    • ...
    • 'There is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity,' Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein said Friday
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    • Also cautioned that 'there is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election'
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    • Rosenstein said the goal was 'spreading distrust toward the candidates and the political system in general'
     
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  11. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    No, you seem desperate, Bliss.
    The underlying evidence behind these indictments hasn't been fully released to the public yet, but I guarantee you that Russia plotting to influence our election was revealed to Mueller partly through statements made to the special counsel by people on Trump's campaign team.

    This is a 37 page indictment which has been posted on the HuffPost. Read it if you get a chance, and understand Mueller's investigation is proceeding in stages and he has yet to release the names of those Americans who knowingly worked with the Russians.

    This is the beginning of the the end for Trump.

    From the indictment....MAGA was created by the Russians.lol
    The Russians basically ran Trump's campaign.
     
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  12. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    You know what. One thing I appreciate about this new era is I have more peace since I stopped engaging literal crazy people. No more debates about objective facts.
     
  13. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    This was a psych ops operation by Russia to destroy American's underlying faith in our government, the media/press, the democratic electoral process and our presidential elections.

    Exactly how Putin has seized absolute control over Russia because the average Russian doesn't believe anything they see and read that's critical of his regime.

    For some reason, Trump played along and spewed all of Russia's talking points, the main one being that the entire system is rigged and he would only accept the results of the election if HE won.

    Here's what Trump supporters don't understand, it only takes one person from Trump's inner circle to tell Mueller that Trump willingly and knowingly accepted aid from Russian agents to benefit his campaign to destroy his administration.
     
  14. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    I think there is some desparation, but it's with POTUS and his followers. If they truly have nothing to worry about...They need to go about their business and let the investigation continue. I know... "It's a witch hunt and hoax".
     
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  15. bodhesatva

    bodhesatva Well-Known Member

    You're underlying the wrong point, Bliss. The part that should be underlined is "in the indictment," because what this tells us is that this specific indictment makes no suggestion the Russian interference altered the outcome.

    As a simple example to explain what I mean, consider the indictment against Michael Flynn, who has since pled guilty to multiple charges. Did that indictment state that Donald Trump had done anything illegal? No, of course not -- because it's an indictment of Michael Flynn, not Donald Trump. That specific indictment makes no statements about Trump's behavior, because Trump isn't the target of that particular indictment. The same applies here: this indictment happens to specifically be about 13 Russian officials (and 3 Russian entities). That doesn't exonerate anyone else.
     
  16. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    SMFH. California just passed a law where spreading HIV is no longer a Felony: http://www.latimes.com/politics/ess...ades-from-felony-to-1507331544-htmlstory.html
     
  17. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    "Oh geeze, stop, we're not trying to take your guns/repel the 2nd Amendment!..."

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  18. Thump

    Thump Well-Known Member

    Even though half of these articles are years old opinion pieces I'll bite:

    Jesus Christ! The 2nd amendment isn't a book of the Bible. Why do conservatives act like it's a divine text handed down by God himself? If a law isn't working anymore or is too rigid to evolve with the times, the law can and should be repealed and replaced with a better law.

    You know there was once another outdated law in America that got repealed because society ran out of tolerance for it, and as a free black man I'm grateful for it. If America can abolish slavery (which was a pillar of the southern economy) it can abolish the 2nd amendment and replace it with sensible gun laws.
     
  19. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    If this weren't fact, l'd have put it in the conspiracy thread, but it's been revealed today that David Hogg was not at the school during the shooting.
    He was at home.

    He was speaking days after in an interview that is now going viral, explaining that "..On the day of the shooting, he grabbed his camera, and got on his bike and rode the 3 miles to the school from his house, to interview a bunch of the student witnesses.

    Then we have the 'famous' video recording of him saying he is "there, hiding with classmates during the shooting." WTF?
    You can't make this stuff up, even though Hogg apparently has. :oops:
     
  20. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    So if the 2nd Amendment isnt "Bible" as you want to call it, neither is the 1st.
    Or 4th.
    Or any of the others.
    Abolish those too.

    And the ABOLISHMENT of Slavery BECAME the 13th Amendment.
    Slavery was NEVER an actual Amendment, was it?

    And what is "sensible gun laws". There's already a plethora.
     
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