Random Political comments...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bliss, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    "Telephones I believe are really just two Dixie cups connected with a piece of dental floss."

    "This blood infection I believe will be cured as soon as the doctor puts these leeches on me."

    "Rock music I believe tells you to worship Satan when you play it backwards."
     
  2. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Boi I'm still laughing out loud. Glad I'm at home where I won't be judged. Lol
     
  3. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Are you done, dork?
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    "A tin can telephone is a type of acoustic (non-electrical) speech-transmitting device made up of two tincans, paper cups or similarly shaped items attached to either end of a tautstring or wire."
     
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  4. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    SMH. Tony Podesta is not nor has he ever been a convicted pedophile.
    Now ask yourself why the far right continues to spread this kind of garbage to their followers??

    The Obama administration was openly bigoted?? Against whom, exactly???

    You say a lot of slick shit about Obama which really comes across as personal. First you attack ALL of his policies, then you savage his character.

    Then you turn around and put Trump on a pedestal.

    Sometimes I hope someone has hacked your account on this site.


    You really believe the reason Trump was crushed in NY and CA is because of a massive electoral conspiracy with hundreds of thousands of illegal and dead voters being tallied??

    Is that why BOTH Romney and McCain were also crushed by BHO in the same states in 2008 and 2012???

    IMO you believe in a lot of stuff that hasn't been or proven or is verifiable. It's a lot of crap that's based on your FEELINGS about what you believe to be truth. Even though it isn't.

    For instance, if a conservative wanted to argue that Obama's former pastor Reverend Wright was a racist, many of us might argue to what degree, but most Obama supporters would concede there's some truth to that statement.

    We don't make a habit of defending bullshit because it might make our side look bad.

    Trump's administration is about to blow up IMO in a very public way and the POTUS himself is already perceived as a clear and present danger to the country he was elected to lead.
    Many within his own party openly are questioning his mental fitness and competence to govern.

    And yet if impeachment proceedings begin against Trump in the spring, conservative talking heads are already calling it a COUP, and not a legal congressional proceeding to remove the POTUS from office.

    No, an impeachment is NOT a coup, but do you see how using such incendiary and volatile language lays the groundwork for street level violence if Trump is removed from office??

    Remember when Trump repeatedly said on the campaign trail running against Hillary, the Dems were trying to steal the election from him and that if he lost, they cheated???
    NO fucking proof whatsoever for such a hateful, inflammatory statement, except to make his supporters believe if HRC was elected, she was an illegitimate president.

    This is why Trump is so dangerous. This is the same tactic he used when he said Obama wasn't an American citizen and no one who went to college with him even remembers his ever attending.

    Trump tells the worst kind of lies, lies that divide the country into political factions, make them distrust our elected leaders and the credibility of the mainstream media, the final watchdogs over our government and legal institutions.

    Do you understand how dangerous it is in a democracy for the president to say nearly EVERYDAY the MSM is 'fake news'??
    An idiot on the street can believe that, but for the president to suggest there's no journalistic integrity in any news reports specifically about him and it's all made up, he's setting himself up to be the ONLY source of REAL truth.

    This is how autocracies and dictatorships are born.
     
  5. bodhesatva

    bodhesatva Well-Known Member

    Historically speaking, people are aware that discrediting and controlling the media is classic authoritarian behavior right? I'm asking this question honestly.

    It doesn't even matter what "side" of the political spectrum those authoritarians are on. Left-leaning authoritarians like China and Venezuela, for example, have long worked to control the media, including shutting down all outlets not favorable to the government. In right-leaning authoritarian states like Russia, media critical of Putin has long been lambasted as "corrupt" and reporters who post critical stories have mysteriously died.

    It's one thing to not like some *specific* news outlet. I don't think CNN is very good. I think Breitbart, The Young Turks, and Fox News are terrible. But many people seem to say "the media," is bad -- as in the media in general -- and that really scares me. History shows us that turning the populace against the media leads to very, very dark places, whether it's done from the left or the right.
     
  6. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Whats wrong with the young turks?
     
  7. bodhesatva

    bodhesatva Well-Known Member

    For starters, they tend to avoid stories which are unflattering to "their side," which is not all that uncommon of strong left or right outlets. It's one of the reasons I don't *like* strong left / strong right outlets, and prefer outlets that are more likely to show multiple sides of a story, even if I don't agree with one of those sides.

    It's probably worth pointing out that the name "The Young Turks" was a name given to a group of leftist, Turkish nationalists who, among other things, committed genocide on Armenians. You may think that's just a random chance, but the chief anchor and founder of TYT, Cenk Uygur, has Turkish heritage and has a longstanding history of denying the Armenian Genocide ever occurred (he has, to his credit, at least come out recently and said he doesn't know enough and won't talk about it anymore).

    But that point above is less important to me than that TYT seems intolerant of views they do not agree with and unwilling to converse with those with differing points of view. Look at something like the New York Times -- an establishment long considered peak liberalism -- and consider the fact that three of their anchor op-ed writers are David Brooks (social conservative), Ross Douthat (social conservative who argues against Gay Marriage and abortion) and Bret Stephens (stalwart conservative who, among other things, denies climate change).

    That's what I want in an news outlet, personally. I want a media center that challenges my views and offers me opinions I don't agree with. The Young Turks (among many other outlets) does not do that.
     
  8. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Well at least we know 45 is not smart enough to become the dictator of the US. Treating the CIA like some highschool jerkoffs was a silly move. He seems to think everyone is as stupid as the "obamacare" recipients that voted for him.
     
  9. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    I just want the truth and they seem fair and balanced to me. Yes their politics do come out at times but they call out the bs
    If it weren't for them I would have never learned about Donna Brazil or Wasermanschultz using the DNC to cheat, the other outlets weren't covering it, same thing with DAPL, same thing with progressives running for office like Nina Turner.
    They're independent so they don't answer to corporate donors.
    But hey to each their own
     
  10. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    The answer to that question is the same my question to you: "Are you done believing in ridiculous conspiracy theories yet?"

    Nope, not at all.

    "Star Wars I believe is actually based on real-life events."

    "Snow I believe is Jesus crying when it's cold outside."

    "The sun I believe is pulled by a chariot around the galaxy."
     
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  11. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Millions of felons, dead and illegals did vote illegally...and once the States are forced to co-operate with the the Presidential Advisory Commission on Voter Integrity, you shall be shocked, just like Hillary and Jill Stein were. More to come...you can AB-60 that!

    As of January 2015, California residents who cannot establish legal presence in the United States may apply for a driver's license if they can show eligible proof of identification and residency in the state. These driver's licenses may not be used for identification purposes. By law, no one may discriminate against a holder of an AB-60 license, or use this license to attempt to question the holder's citizenship or immigration status. :eek:

    And don't give me the crap "cant be used for identification". As if they're checking for distinctions, not to mention the States that don't require photo ID. In CA registering only requires your drivers licence #.
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    Democrat CA...look at them protecting illegals to ensure they vote. This is your future.

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    Next...

    How many people do you personally know who have died mysteriously?

    How about in plane crashes or car wrecks?

    Bizarre suicides?

    People beaten to death or murdered in a hail of bullets?

    And what about violent freak accidents – like separate mountain biking and skiing collisions in Aspen, Colorado? Or barbells crushing a person’s throat?


    Ready?
    Here is the Clinton's body count...

    Shawn Lucas – Aug. 2, 2016

    On July 3, attorney Shawn Lucas, 38, helped serve the DNC with a lawsuit claiming then-DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz “rigged the primary for Hillary Clinton.”

    The complaint was served before Wasserman Schultz resigned amid the Wikileaks email scandal on July 24.

    Less than one month after he helped serve the lawsuit, Lucas’ girlfriend found him dead in his bathroom.

    Beverly Ann Fields, chief of staff at the Washington, D.C., Medical Examiner’s office, told WND, “The cause and manner of death for decedent [Shawn] Lucas are still pending.”

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    Victor Thorn – Aug. 1, 2016

    Victor Thorn authored four books on the Clintons: “Hillary (and Bill): The Sex Volume,” Hillary (and Bill): The Drugs Volume,” “Hillary (and Bill): The Murder Volume” and “Crowning Clinton: Why Hillary Shouldn’t Be in the White House.” Thorn reportedly committed suicide with a gun on his 54th birthday on a mountaintop in Pennsylvania.

    Inquisitr reported that Thorn made several appearances on “The Russell Scott Show” and told the host, “Russell, if I’m ever found dead, it was murder. I would never kill myself."


    Joe Montano – July 25, 2016

    Joe Montano, who served as chairman of the Democratic National Committee before Debbie Wasserman Schultz and was an aide to Hillary’s running-mate, Tim Kaine, reportedly died of a heart attack after the Wikileaks DNC email dump. Montano was only 47.

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    Seth Rich – July 10, 2016


    DNC staffer Seth Rich was murdered near his affluent neighborhood in Washington, D.C. Rich was shot in the back at 4:15 a.m. while he walked home from his girlfriend’s apartment. Rich previously worked on the failed U.S. Senate campaign of Nebraska businessman Scott Kleeb, whose clean-energy business had come under investigation after losing $300,000 in 2010 and another $300,000 in 2011 despite having been subsidized by the Clinton Global Initiative.

    A commentary by Rachel Alexander at Townhall suggested possible corruption between the CGI and Kleeb “led to Sanders’ cronies pressuring Rich to leak what was going on.”

    In one interview, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange appeared to suggest that Rich, 27, was the source of the WikiLeaks-exposed DNC emails.

    Assange hinted at the newest revelations during an interview on the Dutch television program Nieuwsuur.

    (Note: WikiLeaks offers $20,000 reward for help finding DNC staffer’s killer - why??)

    “Our whistleblowers go to significant efforts to give us material, at often very significant risks,” Assange said. “There was a 27 year old, works for the DNC, who was shot in the back, murdered just a few weeks ago for unknown reasons other than that he was walking down the street in Washington.”

    The interviewer interjected, “That was just a robbery, I believe, wasn’t it?”

    Assange replied, “No, there’s no finding.”

    The interviewer asked, “What are you suggesting?”

    “I’m suggesting that our sources take risks and they become concerned to see things occurring like that,” Assange continued.

    “But was he one of your sources then?” asked the interviewer.

    “We don’t comment on who our sources are,” Assange said. “We have to understand how high the stakes are in the United States. Our sources are, you know, our sources face serious risks. That’s why they come to us, so we can protect their anonymity.”

    Assange continued, “Others have suggested that [Rich was murdered]. We are investigating. If you understand what happened in that situation with Seth Rich, I think it is a concerning situation. There’s not a conclusion yet. We wouldn’t be willing to state a conclusion, but we are concerned about it. More importantly, a variety of WikiLeaks sources are concerned when that kind of thing happens.”

    Yeah yeah l know, his family for some "odd reason" ate strangely in denial.

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    John Ashe – June 22, 2016

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    Former U.N. official John Ashe with Hillary Clinton

    Former United Nations General Assembly President John Ashe was found dead in His New York home, and the cause of death was reported as a heart attack. But the local Dobbs Ferry police said “his throat had been crushed, presumably by a barbell he dropped while pumping iron.”

    “The death by barbell of disgraced U.N. official John Ashe could become a bigger obsession for conspiracy theorists than Vince Foster’s 1993 suicide,” the report by Richard Johnson said.

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    Former President of the United Nations General Assembly John Ashe

    It’s because Ashe was scheduled to testify in just days with Chinese businessman and co-defendant Ng Lap Seng, who was accused of smuggling $4.5 million into the U.S. and lying that it was to buy casino chips and more.

    The New York Post said Ng earlier was identified in a 1998 Senate document “as the source of hundreds of thousands of dollars illegally funneled through an Arkansas restaurant owner, Charlie Trie, to the Democratic National Committee during the Clinton administration.”

    “One source told me,” Johnson wrote, “‘During the trial, the prosecutors would have linked Ashe to the Clinton bagman Ng. It would have been very embarrassing. His death was conveniently timed.”

    “Could this be Hillary Clinton silencing people who ‘know too much?’” questioned Kosar in the Political Insider. “We know there are at least 46 people from Clinton world who have died under mysterious circumstances. While some are certainly a coincidence, it is very clear that being deeply connected into the Clinton political world can be hazardous to your health.

    “In this case, no definite evidence exists that it was murder and Ashe’s own lawyer disagrees with the theory. However, with Hillary Clinton’s track record, it’s definitely worth further investigation.”

    The Post said Ashe formerly was the head of the U.N. General Assembly and was facing criminal charges in a federal bribery case.

    He was from the Caribbean nation of Antigua and Barbuda, and was accused of taking kickbacks in exchange for promises for real-estate deals and more, the report said.


    ...ill post the rest tomorrow.. lm tired.
     
  12. bodhesatva

    bodhesatva Well-Known Member

    I won't disagree with much of this, but I will say this: I *agree* with a lot of what TYT says, but again, that's not my problem. My problem is basically the opposite: they don't say a lot of things I *don't* agree with, which is something I think is very important. I would rather a media outlet invite an intelligent conservative person on and talk with them, which TYT does not really do very much. Secondly, the New York Times is owned by... The New York Times company. The Young Turks is owned by... The Young Turks Company. I agree that the NYT is more entrenched -- but mostly because it's older and bigger, which has downsides and upsides, to me.
     
  13. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    I just want information as close to the truth as possible and I also need to know not everyone is corrupt and only concerned about money above all else. I don't mind agreeing a lot because I agree with the truth. That's the great thing about progressives we're open minded enough to learn and to listen. We still believe in empirical fact.
     
  14. bodhesatva

    bodhesatva Well-Known Member

    Well I definitely agree in empirical fact, too! But there are times where I disagree with conservatives and basic facts aren't the issue.

    For example, some conservatives agree that climate change is real, but believe the best solution to the problem is to allow companies to invent ways to solve the problem, rather than for the government to try and fix the problem from the top down.

    I don't *agree* with that position, but it's not factually wrong, or anything. There are differences of opinion that cannot be readily resolved by simple accounting of facts. Values differ, too.
     
  15. bodhesatva

    bodhesatva Well-Known Member

    Decided not to post this!
     
  16. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    It's pretty easy to prove companies don't really fix those kinds of problems especially if they can make a profit. Values are important but I'm still waiting to see the invisible hand of the market work monopoly free.
     
  17. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    This makes me laugh out loud

     
  18. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member


    Every state run electoral board across the country, in both red and blue states, has testified repeatedly there is no massive voter fraud across the country.

    These are the people responsible for certifying the vote, and they aren't just all conservative or liberal electoral employees.
    Once again, this is a scheme by the POTUS and conservatives to make people doubt ANY election result that doesn't favor their candidate.
    Illegals historically in this country simply do NOT vote. It's too much exposure and on top of that a felony.

    You really think illegals with poor English skills are sitting around TVs trying to understand Fox and MSNBC???

    I guess it's also a conspiracy theory that most people in this country are not conservative voters, and if more people were encouraged to vote, like in Canada and Europe, it's believed a GOP candidate would NEVER win the presidency??
    DO you ever wonder why the GOP doesn't support the idea of an election holiday, or MORE eligible people voting in elections??

    Because historically the less people who vote, the more likely it is the conservative candidate will WIN.
    Why do you think the GOP is so obsessed with gerrymandering and redistricting precincts and counties across the county, so much so that while more Republicans hold elected office nationwide, they have less total votes in their favor than the minority of Dem representatives.

    Why do you think the GOP will never overturn the electoral college and let presidential elections be decided by pure popular vote??
    THIS is what is called a 'real' conspiracy theory.

    Also, people aren't ever murdered because they might have info against someone that's embarrassing.
    And where are the Clintons finding ALL these professional hitmen and assassins to kill their political opponents??
    Do you know how crazy it sounds when someone argues the Clintons have murdered people MULTIPLE times???

    Or do you believe the Clintons have the CIA on speed dial to make murders look like heart attacks??

    And nobody is ever murdered for leaking, otherwise both Edward Snowden and Julian Assange would both be dead.

    People are killed BEFORE they leak, not after.
    Like Sandra Levy. Or D.C. Madam Deborah Jean Palfrey, who threatened to expose her black book of high profile political clients during her trial for running a prostitution ring and money laundering.

    And I wish right wingers would stop parroting our idiot POTUS that the CLintons started birtherism.
    In 2007, Hillary's campaign wanted to play up the fact that Barack Obama's upbringing was exotic and non-traditional, and that he didn't have a traditional American formative experience.

    They never decided to spread the LIE he wasn't born in Hawaii.

    That was all on racist ass Trump.
     
  19. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member


    I hope you're still laughing when the Mueller report comes out.:rolleyes:
     
  20. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    You do realize that The New York Times Company is a publicly-traded billion dollar corporation, right? The Young Turks LLC is Cenk & maybe a couple other dudes.
     

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