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samson1701 · Jan 30, 2020

ColiBreh1 said:
Obviously the 1st season of "American Crime Story" doesn't count because that was about the O.J. case, but "American Horror Story: Roanoke" (Season 6 of AHS) had Cuban Gooding Jr. as the male lead married to Sarah Paulson's character.

Did they? By that time I'd stopped watching that show. I stand corrected. How was his character? Was he a man or just male?

ColiBreh1 · Jan 30, 2020

samson1701 said:
Ryan Murphy is one of the worst. Can't cast a straight black male lead to save his life. If there's a black male in any of his fictional shows, he's gay. Period. Or being cheated on.

ColiBreh1 said:
Obviously the 1st season of "American Crime Story" doesn't count because that was about the O.J. case, but "American Horror Story: Roanoke" (Season 6 of AHS) had Cuban Gooding Jr. as the male lead married to Sarah Paulson's character.

samson1701 said:
Did they? By that time I'd stopped watching that show. I stand corrected. How was his character? Was he a man or just male?

Here is the trailer to judge for yourself:

I forgot that Andre Holland & Lily Rabe played Cuban Gooding Jr. & Sarah Paulson's characters in the present time in those documentary segments.

darkcurry · Jan 30, 2020

Thump said:
Here are two examples of TV diversity, one example of how to do it right and one example of how to do it wrong.

I've been catching up on my TV watching now that I don't work nights anymore, there is a series on CBS called All Rise about a newly appointed black female judge, the storylines are standard fare but what is unusual is the diverse casting, first of all, the show features 5 women and two men, two black characters, two Latinas, two whites, and one Asian, there is also a lesbian (she's gay but the show doesn't try to become The L Word) and an IR relationship between the black male bailiff and the Latina public defender. The cast of the show seems so natural that I didn't even notice the diversity until the third episode. The show doesn't go out of its way to point out the diversity it just exists. I also like that the black female lead isn't a drama-filled basketcase like so many other black women are portrayed as on TV.

Now, on the other hand, we have a newer show that just premiered last week call 911:Lonestar. This show is the silliest and most ham-fisted attempt at diversity I've seen in a really long time. The show stars Rob Lowe as a 9/11 firefighter who relocates to Texas, when he gets there he begins to assemble the "woke-ist" crew in the world. First, there is his gay son (who is getting over his black boyfriend dumping him), then there is the sassy female Muslim who plays by her own rules, then we have the transgender black "man" who is trying to prove something, next we have the Latino immigrant who just wants to be given a chance, a gay Latino cop (who has explicit scenes the lead's son) and finally, we have the other leads a middle-aged white woman and a mental-case white man who has a black wife (The devil's IR). The ham-fisted diversity is bad enough but the show doesn't actually care because the leads are all white people.

It goes to show that diversity can be natural on tv when people don't try to hit the audience over the head with it.

It's pandering and all rise sounds like one of those diverse shows that doesn't do that. But also money is involved in trying to get as many different viewers as possible that it then becomes more about that and less about true character development.

SilverSmith · Feb 1, 2020

Quibi (short for “Quick Bites”) is a new streaming service that will offer short-form original series, with episodes that run 10 minutes or less.

Rollx007 · Feb 1, 2020

Bliss · Feb 1, 2020

Rollx007 said:
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Hahaha, love it.
Aaahh, young love, lust, whatever.

Fantastic trend.

*That second to last one is hilarious.They took that bitch employee's threat and turned it into a clever rap. Brilliant.

ColiBreh1 · Feb 1, 2020

Yeah I think I mentioned this in the "random media commentary" thread recently to @darkcurry. TikTok seems to be the social media platform of choice where young snowbunny chicks (& other non-black females) are vocal for their preference of BM. Because god knows this is a NO-NO on Twitter (unless you're a pornchick/sexworker).

Bliss · Feb 1, 2020

ColiBreh1 said:
Yeah I think I mentioned this in the "random media commentary" thread recently to @darkcurry. TikTok seems to be the social media platform of choice where young snowbunny chicks (& other non-black females) are vocal for their preference of BM. Because god knows this is a NO-NO on Twitter (unless you're a pornchick/sexworker).

Didn't know that, CB. That's awesome! It's almost like they're in their own little secret meetup, that's pure and uninfected by trolls who want to politicize and destroy something that's so adorable.

ColiBreh1 · Feb 1, 2020

Soulthinker · Feb 1, 2020

SilverSmith said:
Quibi (short for “Quick Bites”) is a new streaming service that will offer short-form original series, with episodes that run 10 minutes or less.

Too short sometimes.

Bliss · Feb 1, 2020

ColiBreh1 said:
A bunch more are posted on the BlackMeetsWhite subreddit:

https://www.tiktok.com/@taty.rose/video/6748883372015193350

https://www.tiktok.com/@.kyah/video/6771261397595622661

https://www.tiktok.com/@graceandginaa/video/6732522508215422213

https://www.tiktok.com/@sydnie_alexis/video/6773540935847513349

https://www.tiktok.com/@caytoncaruthers1/video/6780048534361148677

https://www.tiktok.com/@rachelst.gelais/video/6729961919714692358

https://www.tiktok.com/@__sophxa/video/6766759622582766854

https://www.tiktok.com/@dakayla.cherry06/video/6766759384144973062

https://www.tiktok.com/@__sophxa/video/6748908139850091782

https://www.tiktok.com/@kaitlynwillstealyourmans/video/6775351457114885381

https://www.tiktok.com/@babyyangggg/video/6764863369821424902

https://www.tiktok.com/@chungus_thefungus/video/6735182920513817861

https://www.tiktok.com/@kyleighlesesne/video/6752342095392017670

https://www.tiktok.com/@prophetdewillow/video/6733509463019425029

https://www.tiktok.com/@bella_helfrich/video/6738870377633582341

https://www.tiktok.com/@valoriepisula/video/6734071344947891462

https://www.tiktok.com/@meliaamillerr/video/6751539150723271941

https://www.tiktok.com/@smiilk/video/6765781711272824070

https://www.tiktok.com/@jessi.makonnen/video/6773601712306408709

https://www.tiktok.com/@clarafadlalla/video/6734130225011068165

https://www.tiktok.com/@_alyssa.boo_/video/6780487511966797061

https://www.tiktok.com/@courtneyerinbanks/video/6752591710410280197

https://www.tiktok.com/@madisonerose07/video/6758232391015337221

https://www.tiktok.com/@sterling506/video/6724820052639534342

https://www.tiktok.com/@maynoe35/video/6775143308831329541

https://www.tiktok.com/@gabbydellolio/video/6717830749409578246

https://www.tiktok.com/@barbietaytay/video/6785619850409577734

Some of them needs a bit more original style and song, lol. Still cute.

Man, we had nothing like this in my teen years. We had to be about it, not rap about it. These clips lm sure bring all the boys to their yards, lol.

*Where are the young males clips, or is the trend just females doing it?

The Dark King · Feb 1, 2020

Is this really that different?
When I was in high school rap just started becoming big and crossover appeal so a lot of white girls were into black guys. I was a nerdy black kid who was into comics and ran on the cross country team and I had a lot of girlfriends.
My only critique was feeling the need to disqualify other dudes to say they were into to black guys but then again they were young. Honestly it's most likely a phase anyway.
It was a phase for all girls I grew up with who were into Mase and Puff or LL or Method Man. They were a little dangerous which was exciting but after graduate school everyone ended up with a safe stable white guy.

ColiBreh1 · Feb 1, 2020

The Dark King said:
Is this really that different?
When I was in high school rap just started becoming big and crossover appeal so a lot of white girls were into black guys. I was a nerdy black kid who was into comics and ran on the cross country team and I had a lot of girlfriends.
My only critique was feeling the need to disqualify other dudes to say they were into to black guys but then again they were young. Honestly it's most likely a phase anyway.
It was a phase for all girls I grew up with who were into Mase and Puff or LL or Method Man. They were a little dangerous which was exciting but after graduate school everyone ended up with a safe stable white guy.

It was just announced within the last couple years that Hip-Hop is officially the most popular music genre in the America, so the percetage of young white (& non-black) females who listen to rap is probably ten-fold compared to when you were a teen in the 90's.

And yeah it's definitely cringeworty for these chicks that publicly got out of their mention that their not into white (& other non-black) dudes.

Tsharp99 · Feb 2, 2020

The Dark King said:
Is this really that different?
When I was in high school rap just started becoming big and crossover appeal so a lot of white girls were into black guys. I was a nerdy black kid who was into comics and ran on the cross country team and I had a lot of girlfriends.
My only critique was feeling the need to disqualify other dudes to say they were into to black guys but then again they were young. Honestly it's most likely a phase anyway.
It was a phase for all girls I grew up with who were into Mase and Puff or LL or Method Man. They were a little dangerous which was exciting but after graduate school everyone ended up with a safe stable white guy.

The interracial dating and marriage numbers would disprove your statement that this is just a phase.

Tsharp99 · Feb 2, 2020

Bliss said:
I would have posted it but I saw you make a post somewhere else about a website that "you're not allowed to mention here anymore" (lol) and this would link there but if you go to that website that I think you were talking about that begins with an L, just put this header in..

Teens on TikTok have no clue they’re perpetuating racist stereotypes

Why is it when anyone shows their love or attraction for black men it's perpetuating a stereotype or fetishizing, but they can talk about how they love black women 24/7?

The Dark King · Feb 2, 2020

Tsharp99 said:
The interracial dating and marriage numbers would disprove your statement that this is just a phase.

I didn't say for everyone it is but for most of these girls this is just something fun to do.
Honestly I also think the IR numbers are up because it's more social accepted for those couples to get married not increased interest.
Just seen it a lot and with exception of maybe two most of my exes ended up with white dudes

Bliss · Feb 2, 2020

Tsharp99 said:
Why is it when anyone shows their love or attraction for black men it's perpetuating a stereotype or fetishizing, but they can talk about how they love black women 24/7?

l agree with your comment.

Bliss · Feb 2, 2020

Mase:

@diddy I heard your #Grammy speech about how u are now for the artist and about how the artist must take back control. So I will be the first to take that initiative. Also, before we ask of other ethnicities to do us right we should do us as black people better. Especially the creators.

Your past business practices knowingly has continued purposely starved your artist and been extremely unfair to the very same artist that helped u obtain that Icon Award on the iconic Badboy label. For example, u still got my publishing from 24 years ago in which u gave me $20k. Which makes me never want to work w/ u as any artist wouldn’t after u know someone is robbing you & tarnishing your name when u don’t want to comply w/ his horrendous business model.

To add insult, u keep screaming black excellence and love but I know love isn’t free. So I offered u 2m in cash just a few days ago to sell me back my publishing(as his biggest artist alive) that always show u respect for u giving me an opportunity at 19 yrs old. Your response was if I can match what the EUROPEAN GUY OFFER him that would be the only way I can get it back. Or else I can wait until I’m 50 years old and it will revert back to me from when I was 19 years old.

You bought it for about 20K & I offered you 2m in cash. This is not black excellence at all. When our own race is enslaving us. If it's about us owning, it can't be about us owning each other. No More Hiding Behind "Love". U CHANGED? GIVE THE ARTIST BACK THEIR $$$. So they can take care of their families.

JamalSpunky · Feb 2, 2020

Tsharp99 said:
Why is it when anyone shows their love or attraction for black men it's perpetuating a stereotype or fetishizing, but they can talk about how they love black women 24/7?

For many people its a way of shaming people/the media from talking about their love for black males. Its their method of putting conditions on being able to openly express such views. The only ones who they think has a free pass in expressing such viewpoints are black women themselves or those who agree with them.

JamalSpunky · Feb 2, 2020

meowkittenmeow said:
They statistically beat us senseless when we are children (https://www.damemagazine.com/2015/08/24/are-black-mothers-beating-their-sons-misogyny/), ridicule us as young men, then attempt to shame us into choosing only them. Granted, it’s not all, but it is many and more than enough to be a problem.

Thanks for that link. Looks very interesting. I am going to have to read it soon.

Btw you know the #1 Rule of the African American Community is Black Mothers Are Never Wrong About Anything.

Seriously I give all due props to black women (especially my mom) but there is a mythologizing about black women that I find sickening.

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