Random Conversation 2.0

Most PEOPLE, not just women, want financial security, TDK. I've said this before & I'll say it again: you need to get out of NY if this is all you experience. My son's female friends are all the age you're talking about. Most of them are recent college grads. Most of them are looking to get married as well. But they have college degrees, so clearly they expect to have a career at some point. But they may also like to have the option to stay home with their children while they are very little. And that would mean their husband would need to be making a large enough income to support that. But knowing these young ladies, not one of them chose their careers with an eye toward finding a rich husband who will allow them to stay home, be lazy & be taken care of.

I think it is safe to say that many women want to marry & have children. It's kinda what we're designed to do. We prepare for the future as if we are going to support ourselves (there's no guarantee we'll marry), but we hope that we will find a life partner who will help make it possible for us to stay home with our kids for a bit. It's not about being lazy - its about giving our children the benefit of our full attention rather than giving the best hours of our day to an employer & giving our family the exhausted leftovers.

 

You and I both, lovely. Didn't think for a second it came from you xxx

 

I never called anyome lazy. My point was men typically dont go into professions thinking someonr will pick up the slack to afford them a decent place tolive amd the ability to stay he with kids. In fact from what Ive seen what most women do for a living has little to no baromg on how a man chooses a mate but it affects how most women choose a mate. Its no coincidence that women perk up and become more interested when they find a guy is wealthy or has a high paying job. Its not gold dogging alll the time it just represents security. Like you said women think ahead its instinctual.
Do I believe every single person who becomes a teacher does it soley based on thinking a man will come in amd save them? Absolutely not but the dominate thinking from what Ive observed is a lot of women choosing a profession that allows them time to be home... you know what never mind this is fruitless. We can all agree to disagree.

 

Alrighty then.

 

lmao

 

rep coming

 

I know, I may have sparked a strong debate... I didn't mean to. I just happen to find the quality admiring, a man who wants to provide for his family and would afford the opportunity for his lady to quit working in an effort to make a home and take care of her husband and her children.

I served in the military when my boys were young, and I would have given anything to be able to stay home and take care of my children in their first years. As a working parent, its easy to get wrapped up in work and other things, missing out on first experiences and nurturing our little ones.

I had my daughter at a much older age, so I had a lot more invested into my career, however, I still wanted more than anything to spend that time with her...that is time you just can't get back...

I have been blessed with many talents, and I would never want to completely give up on them, but I guess I am the type of girl that wants time w my kids. And I don't think there is anything wrong with that.

 

(Clapping). Great post, Cherok33!

 

Fair enough on the Amazon and "oobs" references. That's pretty much a given. But referring to someone as "boo" when you get defensive does scream a level of discomfort in an otherwise, fairly decent conversation and atmosphere. Also, let me remind that you have made some sexist comments in the past and that'll forever remain etched into people's psyche, however loved you are on the forums. We call out stupidity when need be, but we also do our hardest now to let bygones be bygones.

And quite frankly, the malice you've brought upon yourself has already happened, otherwise we wouldn't have these sort of arguments, now would we? It's not a matter of disagreement. It's just a matter of catching people when they've been caught.

 

Woman should have the right/option to either be career oriented or be a homemaker. I think taking care of home has been so overlooked as a "real job" for so long, that it's often mistaken for a woman being lazy, spoiled or a golddigger. Not so. Me personally, I'd love to be the primary bread winner coming home to my homemaking wife. That's the life.

 

This.

Nice to hear this sentiment from a guy, for a change.

 

I'm not adverse to working as much as is necessary to support my home. I worked 2 full-time jobs, 7 days a week for 2 years straight.

 

ouch

 

Yeah, wasn't bad though. it was my introduction into the IT field. I had 2 helpdesk positions. Really wasn't that bad at all. Believe it or not, I still had time to go out and everything.

 

I think men who truly understand the value of having a mother at home with small children will willingly do what needs to be done to facilitate that. Sometimes it isn't possible - the mother may have to work as well, or she may simply choose to work. Kudos to her if she can juggle both. And, in some cases, mom chooses to work and dad stays home. A little non-traditional, but if it works for them as a couple and as a family, more power to them.

Personally, I admire and respect a guy who would like to provide in such a way that his wife can be at home. Knowing that he supports my desire to be the woman I long to be, makes me all the more willing to support him in his goals and dreams.

 

what can i say...with IT, experience is a strong commodity

unfortunately, getting the experience sometimes means working the helpdesk, which may not pay as much as jobs farther up the ladder

2 years should be a good amount of experience to move up though

 

yeah, this was 2006-2008, i've moved on to much bigger and better things.

 

Woman do have that right. Your over doing it with the ass kissing.