Racial Stereotyping In Comic Book Based Movies

Discussion in 'In the Media' started by nobledruali, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    Well Static Shock was created by a black person who didn't fit the urban label, nor intended to. However, he died a year or two ago, so any chances of getting an answer...is unlikely.

     
  2. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Who's complaining? Just an objective observation. I never said he acted like he was from the hood. Arch explained what I was getting at so look at his post.
    I was never a big fan of Spawn so I never really read his comics but here's another alpha male black guy who stumbled onto to powers like John Stewart and The Black Panther. I always enjoyed a hero who had never been more than ordinary but found greatness some how. Its kind of why I never liked the Superman character. It's easy to hit a homerun when you're already third base know what I mean?
     
  3. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    I think you missed this part of my argument. I was pointing out how you never really see black characters with that same free spirited fun loving attitude or kids who struggle with teen issues. You know normalizing them into mainstream culture. Like it always seems that the black heroes have to already be extraordinary to begin with. Like Black Panther being a Prince and one of the five smartest people in the world.
     
  4. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    Spawn isn't perfect. He does have a lot of weaknesses and he's subject to being under the orders of Hell. But he broke free of those chains as the comics progressed. He's still a vulnerable character despite his powers and abilities. The lesson here is that he's able to find his own purpose and meaning, despite fate controlling him until the very end.

    I understand where you're coming from with a simple human being doing extraordinary things. It's always a good reminder that anyone can overcome adversity. But still, is it necessary to wear latex while fighting crime?

    That sort of mentality is reflected in the real world unfortunately when it comes to achieving goals or meeting standards. Is it not true that as a black person, you have to be 10 times better than your white counterpart? I think those comics serve as a subtle reflection of all that.

     
  5. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Yeah I never got the latex thing either kind of makes you wonder if those rumors about Stan Lee being super gay is true because I can't imagine any straight guy wanting to see Wolverine in tights.

    Yeah its true but in the realm of fantasy I would like to believe even those average amongst us can be something great. It just adds to the white mythos that no matter how mediocore you are you're still better than everyone else despite their accomplishments. Just a little attitude and white skin is all it takes.
     
  6. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    Most of the black superheroes mention in the thread are not extraordinary.
    Virgil/ Static shock is just a regular kid in high school. John Stewart is a military man. Cyborg/victor stone is the son of scientists. Meanwhile, Batman is a millionaire and runs a huge company. Bruce Banner and reed Richards are top notch scientist. Aquaman is king of Atlantis. Wonderwoman is a princess. Superman is powerful beyond belief. It goes on and and on. There isn't really normalizing into mainstream culture for super heroes. The big three of Justice league alone are by no means ordinary(except maybe clark being a reporter).

    I think they tried to do what you said with virgil/static shock. He was never the best at anything. In fact, I think his life was much more close to carefree than Peter parker who had to constantly deal with his powers. To the point that his powers looked like a curse.

    The avengers alone have very high standard white people. Ironman is very rich and smart. Again, reed richards and spiderman are some of the smartest people on the team. You have antman/giantman as another smart individual. Bruce Banner is there as well. It isn't simply black people. You honestly can't expect for a member of the avengers to be ordinary in their regular life.
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2011
  7. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    I thought to myself that now the creator of static shock is gone, it is unlikely that black people will get equal representation in the DCAU. I think that is coming to be true.
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2011
  8. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    Nah. Jack Kirby and his Superman creation started the latex trend. I was half-joking on the whole latex remark. I believe that the costume designs aren't really made of latex, but some fabric. This in part is more of a physical expression of them separating themselves from normal humans. That's how I generally see it.

    Also, want to talk latex? Look at the NFL.

     
  9. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    This is wrong.
     
  10. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    Keep reading the thread I was referring to the original x-men line up and not the one that kept growing.
     
  11. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    Well black character's have gone back in XMen since the 70s...

    ...but none of this should be surprising. 200 million out of 300 million people are white.

    Most of the black X-men character's were introduced in the 90s
     

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