Quick Justice:Man dies while raping woman

I am by no means defending anyone who commits an act of rape, but I like to think that we as a society are better than the rapists are and would not engage in the same act that that the rapists commit. I'm actually against capital punishment for the same reason - the only difference between the crime and the punishment is that the latter has the approval of the state.

 

What's worse is that some of these assholes can get reduced sentences if they have the right lawyer or attorney with them. This also coincides with the notion that they also have a lot of money too. Boggles the shit out of me dearly.

Exercise righteous indignation, Tammy! Such sweet feelings here! :smt054

I'm against capital punishment as well. However, I sort of believe in the eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth punishment. It's sort of messed up to be frank, but I'm always under a crazy notion of character.

 

How so, LittleBrotherWise? And is this different from being a crazy character?

 

This may seem like a stretch, but I tend to be selective as to who I deemed fit to live. I'm a firm believer of post-birth abortions and honestly, I distinguish it from murder.

 

Hmmm.... well, I think that is a tough distinction to make. :?

But, I oppose the "eye for an eye" approach for reasons of character as well. The impulse to punish things like rape comes from our sense that these things are wrong and that the people who commit them are criminals. I would agree with everyone that rapists deserve a very harsh sentence indeed (perhaps even life imprisonment) but if our considered judgement as a society is that rapists should be raped (or killers should be killed), I think that the distinction between "us" and "them (the criminals") begins to disappear.

 

LBW, I am just realizing how apt your sig line is to my argument....

 

I was just beginning to point that out. Hehehe.

But tell me...would you exact justice to those who murdered those closest to you? Or should they be forgiven?

 

Could you further elaborate on the bold part? And, if you can...can you recall a moment in which you communicated with any of these individuals?

 

I don't know how to go with this. Just all around lost. The old lady is going to be reliving this for the rest of her life. It just comes to show that if one uses an ounce of prevention one won't have to worry about the pound of cure. Meaning had you got the 53 year old on the right track in his youth, we wouldn't be talking about. best of luck to the old lady.

 

I think there are some important distinctions to be made between justice and vengeance on the one hand and personal and social responses as well.

On the first point, I think that as a society we have avenues of punishment that are morally preferable to just doing the same thing to an offender that the offender has done to someone else. What can I say... I am a Kantian at heart. If something is wrong, then it's wrong. We don't have the right to do something immoral because someone else has done it first.

On the second point, I don't know that I would be able to forgive someone who murdered a family member or a loved one. Actually, I'm pretty sure that I could not, although I would like to say that I could. But, I think that my personal capacity for forgiveness doesn't necessarily let the person off the hook in terms of society's rights. Someone who breaks the law does not just commit a transgression again the person actually injured but also against the society whose laws have been violated.

 

Fair enough. I can't quite register that sort of thinking into my systems, but I'm willing to find the strength to move on without too much anger or hate to that individual who wronged me. However, I shan't cripple my judgment and continue to dwell should justice be exacted.

 

Ok, when you said that it's what you would choose if you could, I took it to mean that it was what you were advocating. If I misunderstood you, then my bad.