Ex-President Donald Trump

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  1. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Dems: "Change everything"

    Republicans: "Don't change anything"

    Both philosophies are ridiculous.
     
  2. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

    GOP civil war: Trump slams Paul Ryan for opposing end to birthright citizenship

    Oct. 31, 2018 / 5:24 PM ET
    By Adam Edelman


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna929451

    President Donald Trump on Wednesday slammed House Speaker Paul Ryan for opposing his plan to sign an executive order that would end birthright citizenship, ripping the Wisconsin Republican as someone who knows "nothing about" the issue.

    "Paul Ryan should be focusing on holding the Majority rather than giving his opinions on Birthright Citizenship, something he knows nothing about!" Trump tweeted.

    “Our new Republican Majority will work on this, Closing the Immigration Loopholes and Securing our Border!” he added, six days before the midterm elections Tuesday.

    A spokesperson for Ryan, who is not seeking reelection, did not immediately respond to questions from NBC News about Trump’s latest remarks about him.

    Later Wednesday, speaking to reporters on the White House South Lawn, Trump said he would not blame Ryan if Republicans don't hold the House. When asked by NBC News' Kristen Welker why he attacked the speaker, he said, "birthright citizenship is very important, much less complex than people think."

    Trump's lashing out came just one day after Ryan had rejected comments made by Trump about wanting to sign an executive order that would end birthright citizenship for the children of many immigrants to the U.S.

    “You obviously cannot do that. You cannot end birthright citizenship with an executive order," Ryan, who rarely breaks with the president, told WVLK radio. "We didn't like it when Obama tried changing immigration laws via executive action, and obviously as conservatives, we believe in the Constitution."

    "I'm a believer in following the plain text of the Constitution, and I think in this case, the 14th Amendment's pretty clear, and that would involve a very very lengthy Constitutional process," Ryan said Tuesday. "I believe in interpreting the Constitution as its written, and that means you can't do something like this via executive order."

    Earlier Tuesday, Trump had told Axios that birthright citizenship "has to end" and that it would with an executive order.

    "We're the only country in the world where a person comes in, has a baby, and the baby is essentially a citizen of the United States for 85 years with all of those benefits," Trump said, although other nations do permit it. "It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. And it has to end."

    Trump's executive order, if and when it is signed, will almost certainly face legal challenges due to the fact that birthright citizenship is rooted in the interpretation of a constitutional amendment. The "Citizenship Clause" of the 14th Amendment states that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

    Many legal scholars believe the issue was settled by an 1898 decision of the U.S. Supreme Court involving a man born in the United States to Chinese parents who lived here legally.

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  3. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

    Trump says he will restrict asylum, claims troops will shoot at rock throwers

    By Sarah Westwood, Kevin Liptak and Jeff Zeleny, CNN
    Updated 11:29 PM EDT, Thu November 01, 2018


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...cs/trump-immigration-speech-asylum/index.html

    Washington (CNN) President Donald Trump on Thursday claimed he would sign an executive order "next week" aimed at restricting US asylum rules, as he seeks to use a group of Central American migrants heading for the US border as part of his midterm election closing argument.

    He also suggested that the US troops he dispatched to the US-Mexico border could fire on someone in the migrant caravan if the person threw rocks or stones at them.

    In a meandering speech at the White House about immigration, Trump recycled many of the talking points he touts on the campaign trail -- but offered little in the way of concrete ways to address the problems he embellished.

    Trump said his administration is finalizing an executive action that would limit asylum claims to legal ports of entry, claiming migrants frequently abuse the system by fabricating their need for asylum.

    But he declined to specify how a change he described as a forthcoming executive order would work, or why he was convening a presidential address for a policy shift that is still in the preliminary stages.

    Asked if he envisions US troops firing on anyone in the groups of migrants, Trump told reporters at the White House: "I hope not. I hope not -- but it's the military."

    I hope there won't be that," Trump said, but added that anybody throwing rocks or stones at the military service members will be considered to be using a firearm, "because there's not much difference when you get hit in the face with a rock."

    Pentagon regulations only justify deadly force in face of threat

    A US defense official told CNN that the troops deployed to the border will be operating under the standard rules on the use of force and will only use such force in self-defense.

    Official Department of Defense regulations say "deadly force is justified only when there is a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm to a person."

    Lt. Col. Jamie Davis, a Pentagon spokesman, said following Trump's remarks that the Defense Department "will not discuss hypothetical situations or specific measures within our rules on the use of force, but our forces are trained professionals who always have the inherent right of self-defense."

    "I would also emphasize that our forces are in support of DHS/CBP, who are performing law enforcement activities," Davis said.

    Defense officials have repeatedly emphasized the troops at the border are there to support civil authorities and that they are not expected to come into any contact with migrants.

    The top general overseeing US Northern Command said on Tuesday that "CBP (Customs and Border Protection) personnel are ... absolutely the primary and principal members that will be handling, specifically, the migrants."

    "There could be incidental interaction between our military members and migrants or other personnel that might be in that area. And so we are making that our soldiers, our Marines are going to be fully trained in how to do that interaction," Gen. Terrence O'Shaughnessy said.

    The general added, "They're going to understand the rules for that interaction, and they'll be consistent with CBP."

    Remarks come ahead of midterms

    Trump has focused increasingly on immigration heading into the final days of the midterms, as Republicans across the country struggle to match their opponents in drumming up voter enthusiasm.

    Trump did not release details on the asylum proposal or how it would be implemented, saying only that he intended to sign an order sometime next week restricting asylum claims.

    With three campaign rallies, a midterm election and a trip to France on the books, however, the President's schedule for next week is already crowded.

    The President said he would sign an immigration-related executive order next week, but was not specific as to what it would address.

    A White House aide had said earlier Thursday that Trump would unveil an executive action requiring migrants to request asylum at legal points of entry and preventing them from claiming asylum if they are caught crossing the border illegally. Although the President referenced such a policy in his speech, he offered no defense of how such a plan, once finalized, could be legal, given laws presently allowing migrants the right to claim asylum once they are on American soil.

    The Trump administration has been looking at ways to limit the number of asylum seekers, with the President and his allies often describing asylum as a "loophole."

    The Immigration and Nationality Act says that anyone who arrives in the US "whether or not at a designated port of arrival" may apply for asylum if he or she has a "well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group or political opinion."

    Earlier this year, Attorney General Jeff Sessions said victims of gang and domestic violence no longer qualify for asylum.

    "Asylum was never meant to alleviate all problems, even all serious problems, that people face every day all over the world," he said in June.

    As attorney general, Sessions has broad power over asylum procedures and the immigration courts, which are under the auspices of the Justice Department.

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  4. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

    Emoluments Lawsuit Against Trump Can Go Forward, Judge Says

    Jacob Pinter
    November 3, 20184:02 PM ET


    https://www.npr.org/2018/11/03/663933067/emoluments-lawsuit-against-trump-can-go-forward-judge-says

    A lawsuit accusing President Trump of violating the constitution's emoluments clause can proceed, a federal judge said Friday. Never before has an emoluments case gone to trial in the U.S.

    Federal District Judge Peter Messitte denied Trump's request for a stay and ordered the two parties to begin the discovery process.

    The ruling means the plaintiffs, the attorneys general of Maryland and Washington, D.C., have some power to obtain documents from the president and his business ventures. Trump notably has not released his tax returns and has maintained ownership of his businesses.

    Karl Racine, the D.C. attorney general who is up for re-election Tuesday, called the news a big win. "Our case is moving forward, and we will continue to work to stop Trump from illegally profiting from the presidency," he tweeted.

    As far back as Jan. 2017, Trump's legal team has pushed back against emoluments concerns. "Paying for a hotel room is not a gift or a present, and it has nothing to do with an office," Trump lawyer Sheri Dillon said before the president's inauguration.

    As NPR's Peter Overby has reported, the lawsuit claims Trump violated two different clauses in the constitution, known as emoluments clauses: one that forbids federal government officials from accepting gifts from foreign government officials, and another that says the president may not accept benefits from state governments.

    Peter has written the plaintiffs will be interested to learn more about the foreign dignitaries who have been noted staying at the Trump International Hotel a few blocks from the White House.

    As Peter writes, the attorneys general will want to obtain:

    - records covering the hotel's business with foreign government officials;
    - records of cash going from the hotel to the Trump revokable trust that holds the hotel, and then to Trump;
    - documents from the federal General Services Administration, which leases the hotel building to the Trump hotel corporation, and from the U.S. Treasury, which handles the lease payments.

    At the same time, some 200 Democratic members of Congress are suing the president over violations of the emoluments clause. A judge in Washington, D.C., district court ruled in September that the lawmakers have standing to sue the president.

    The Trump International Hotel, which opened shortly before the 2016 election, has invited scrutiny since Trump took office. An investigation by member station WAMU and Reveal showed a Malaysian prime minister spent money at the hotel while the subject of a government corruption probe.

    Additionally, as NPR's Jackie Northam has reported, the hotel's lease, which is through the Government Services Administration, explicitly says no U.S. elected official may hold that lease — a clause Trump has apparently been violating since he became president.

    And House Democrats have raised questions about the president's involvement in deciding whether the FBI headquarters should move from its current site in downtown Washington, D.C. They're asking whether he wants to prevent another hotel from moving in across the street from the Trump International.

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  5. RicardoCooper

    RicardoCooper Well-Known Member

    Dems are "changing everything" from when Republicans fuck shit up

    THAT'S ridiculous
     
  6. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

    GOP Voters On Trump

     
  7. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    What kills me is that literally everything they're complaining about on that video was widely known before the election. But better late than never, I suppose.
     
  8. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    It's the far left that's exasperating the political climate by continuing to prematurely push beyond that point. Lets continue to educate the country about universal healthcare and give it time to stick before pushing for free college. Oops nevermind........

    Let's get the country to adopt better economic and employment practices before pushing for 15 dollar min wage. Oops.....

    Nevermind the practical approach now...... Being that Dotard is president we are now stuck radically shifting, like we have been doing every 8 years.
     
  9. RicardoCooper

    RicardoCooper Well-Known Member

    We agree.
     
  10. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Trump signs bills lifting pharmacist 'gag clauses' on drug prices
    NBC News reported last year on the agreements between pharmacies and insurance companies that had kept some pharmacists from disclosing cheaper drug options to consumers.

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    Oct. 10, 2018
    By Dartunorro Clark and Brenda Breslauer

    President Donald Trump signed two bills at the White House on Wednesday aimed at lowering pharmaceutical drug prices by promoting greater disclosure in drug pricing.

    The two bills the president signed — the Know the Lowest Price Act and the Patients' Right to Know Drug Prices Act — are meant to prevent "gag clauses" in agreements between pharmacies and pharmacy benefit managers, the middlemen who administer prescription drug programs for insurance companies, which pharmacists say kept them from disclosing cheaper drug options to consumers.

    Trump said of the current state of drug pricing at the signing. "You look at prices in our country and for the exact same drug in other countries, it's much lower — made in the same plant by the same company — and I said, 'What's going on?'"

    He added, "Now, they'll be able to see pricing and they'll be able to see where they should go and as they start leaving certain pharmacies, those pharmacies will be dropping their prices."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...ing-pharmacist-gag-orders-drug-prices-n918721
     
  11. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member


    LOL. Still a big nothing bill.

    It's like a car driver finding out the actual price gas stations pay for gasoline, then finding out which one is ripping you off the least.

    You want lower drug prices?? You let consumers as a part of a universal health care consortium negotiate drug prices directly with pharmaceuticals.

    The American people are being screwed 100 ways to Sunday by conservative interests until they don't know what fair is anymore.

    You know why the GOP is going to get slaughtered today?? Because after the Republicans passed their $1.5 billion tax cut for the %1, even GOP voters, a tax cut the one percent didn't need, recognized they were getting fucked over...again.

    Did you read that Giuliani and Trump are about to be under investigation for money laundering for Eastern European autocrats??
    https://www.salon.com/2018/11/05/hu...uliani-trump-money-laundering-scheme_partner/


    A human rights organization has asked Dutch prosecutors to open a criminal investigation into multi-billion dollar money laundering schemes that they say were aided by Donald Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and his old law firm.


    The complaint is clearly aimed at examining how much money stolen from a former Soviet satellite ended up benefitting Trump. He is named 16 times in the complaint’s footnotes.
     
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  12. SilverSmith

    SilverSmith Well-Known Member

    Here's something Repubs never talk about : Under the Trump administration, the deficit has grown 17 percent, the highest in six years, thanks to corporate tax cuts and massive defense spending. And you thought those tax cuts were going to pay for themselves? [​IMG]
     
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  13. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Per usual, the Republicans could give a fuck that Trump has added $2.2 trillion to the deficit in less than two years.

    When the Dems get the WH again, they'll make that POTUS clean up their mess.

    They did the exact same shit to Clinton and Obama.

    Anytime a Republican says they are very concerned about government spending, tell them to STFU.
     
  14. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    More information for consumers is always a good thing. This is how Congress SHOULD work. The bills were bipartisan, and in addition to Republican Collins were authored by Democratic Sens. Claire McCaskill of Missouri and Debbie Stabenow of Michigan, and Republican Sens. John Barrasso of Wyoming and Bill Cassidy of Louisiana.
     
  15. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    EXACTLY RIGHT per Politifact...

    "Obama said since taking office the country has seen "our deficits cut by two-thirds."

    His claim is accurate if you use 2009, his first year in office with an historically high deficit, as a starting point."
     
  16. SilverSmith

    SilverSmith Well-Known Member



    The deficit doesn't matter unless, of course, there's a Democrat in the White House -that's when those phony deficit hawks on the Right abruptly emerge from hiding.
     
  17. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    Yup! They totally don't care. When they weren't in power it was all about the deficit, nation debt and so on. They (including the current POTUS) complained bitterly about spending of taxpayer dollars for any and everything the Obamas did outside of the WH, like attending a basketball game, date night, vacay and so on.
     
  18. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Prediction: history will continue to be ignored and the all or nothing approach will continue to be employed repeatedly.

    Lol
     
  19. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    Exactly. I've said it before and I'll say it again: the Tea Party/Freedom Caucus types on the far right would have been going apeshit 24/7 if this was going on under a Democratic administration.

    The GOP has never, ever given one hot shit about spending, debt, or deficits.
     
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  20. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    "Let me tell you folks, I'm fucked. So fucked. So fucked. You won't believe how fucked I am. People have been talking about how fucked I am but the media never covers that. The enemy of the people, I call them. But I am definitely fucked. Fucked. Tremendously fucked. Believe me folks, you won't even believe it."




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