Philando Castile

Discussion in 'In the News' started by medullaslashin, Jul 7, 2016.

  1. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Nope
    Well lets see if his killer is held accountable. Not holding my breath here.
     
  2. Satchmo

    Satchmo New Member

    I'd be surprised if his past is relevant to the cop's state of mind. I'll pose the question to the criminal lawyers on the site ... (1980) ...?

    Intuitively, I'd think the victim's past would be probative only to prejudice? I mean, absent an outstanding warrant for a violent offense that the cop was aware of?

    Or was his "past" a record of being black in the US?
     
  3. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Apparently that's all that's needed.
     
  4. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    Yep. Can't add to that
     
  5. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    Castile was a very dangerous man

    Excerpt from the article....

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/stopped-52-times-police-racial-profiling-052139197.html


    When Philando Castile saw the flashing lights in his rearview mirror the night he got shot, it wasn't unusual. He had been pulled over at least 52 times in recent years in and around the Twin Cities and given citations for minor offenses including speeding, driving without a muffler and not wearing a seat belt.
    He was assessed at least $6,588 in fines and fees, although more than half of the total 86 violations were dismissed, court records show.......



    Was Castile an especially bad driver or just unlucky? Or was he targeted by officers who single out black motorists like him for such stops, as several of his family members have alleged?
    The answer may never be known, but Castile's stop for a broken tail light Wednesday ended with him fatally shot by a suburban St. Paul police officer, and Castile's girlfriend livestreaming the chilling aftermath.
    The shooting has added a new impetus to a national debate on racial profiling; a day after Castile died, a black Army veteran killed five officers in Dallas at a demonstration over Castile's killing and another fatal police shooting, in Louisiana.
    The Castile video "is pretty horrific," said Gavin Kearney, who in 2003 co-authored a report to the Minnesota Legislature on racial profiling in the state. "There are things we don't know about it. But we know there are certain assumptions and biases — whether explicit or implicit — about black men that affect how police officers interpret their actions. And we know white drivers are less likely to be pulled over."
    Court records dating to 2002 show Castile, a 32-year-old school cafeteria supervisor, averaged more than three traffic stops per year and received citations for misdemeanors or petty misdemeanors.
    Many charges were dismissed, but Castile pleaded guilty to some, mostly for driving after his license was revoked and driving with no proof of insurance. However, those two charges also were the most frequently dismissed, along with failing to wear a seat belt.
    The records show no convictions for more serious crimes.
    No recent information is available on the racial breakdown of drivers stopped or ticketed by police in Falcon Heights, the mostly white suburb where the shooting occurred, or in other Minnesota towns. Minnesota is not among the handful of states that require police to keep such data.
    But in 2001, the Legislature asked for a racial profiling study and it fell to Kearney, then at the Institute on Race & Poverty at the University of Minnesota Law School, to conduct it. His study, using information supplied voluntarily by 65 law enforcement jurisdictions in the state, found a strong likelihood that racial and ethnic bias played a role in traffic stop policies and practices. Overall, officers stopped minority drivers at greater rates than whites and searched them at greater rates, but found contraband in those searches at lower rates than whites.
     
  6. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    Exactly! Cop mess up and kill a BM, and they go all out to dig up shit to justify why THE VICTIM was skum and the cop should therefore go free. That's precisely why Black Lives Matter exists.
     
  7. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    That's fine, but we've seen many cases where something happens, and shit is dug up that has nothing to do with the situation. It's seems like an all out effort to defame the person, and take the emphasis off the cop. Good example is with Trayvon Martin when we heard crap about how he's smoke pot. Has nothing to do with that cop-wannabe chasing him down, getting his ass kicked, then shooting that kid.
     
  8. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    I know this. They do it with rape victims ALL THE TIME.

    But Castile is not getting this treatment and if it shows he did as the Cop said and went for his wallet, the Cop will be charged.
    Ironically, in THIS CASE you want them to USE his background. Even his girlfriend brought up his good character in her live-stream.
     
  9. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    No ma'am. You put an incident in front me where it appears that the cop was justified.... I'll understand. Conversely, if it appears to be a police fuckup as in this case... I'll call it as such. Cops are people and fallible. I refuse to automatically grant them the benefit of the doubt on the basis of their occupation.

    Yes, it's totally disgusting how they do this to rape victims as well.
     
  10. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Let's keep it a 100 it depends who got raped and who the alleged perp is. Black kid he's automatically guilty no matter the victim.
    Rich white Stanford swimmer, come on guys let's have a little sympathy.
    Truthfully I never hear about a victim's past unless she's a sex worker.
     
  11. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    I agree with you about not granting them police officers some sort of special dispensation. I think all people are entitled to the same consideration or benefit of the doubt, without any group getting some sort of greater standard due to their profession.
     
  12. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Can't believe you wrote such BS. You really believe all that hyperbole you just spewed?
     
  13. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    You don't? The Stanford kid who just got convicted of rape was shown so much sympathy which is what normally happens with white perps. How many young black men are convicted before evidence is even collected, central park 5 anyone?
    There are so many extensive studies on how the judicial system works based on who the perp is and who the victim is.
     
  14. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    Have the Central Park Five received anything? Compensation? An apology? That case stank to high heaven!
     
  15. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

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    Commentary on how wm are treated when they have a gun being "a threat " versus bm

    Tyt
     
  16. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Yes, all five were exonerated and received $41 million dollars in compensation.
     
  17. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    The Stanford case was ridiculous and that priveliged dick was well-connected. Stop acting like an average white kid wouldn't do more time.

    Central Park was a complicated case that involved a 45 minute crime spree where four other joggers were assaulted, false and recanted confessions, and a victim who lost her memory after being in a 12 day coma. DNA testing did not really exist then.
    It was not unlike the West Memphis Three White boys put on deathrow for 18 years because of false confessing. (DNA was just coming to light). On top, in the release deal, they were barred from receiving ANY monetary compensation for their false inprisoment.

    I don't know if the Detectives thought it was anyone else in both crimes, but ultimately their juries decided.
     
  18. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

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    judge hatchett on this one.
     
  19. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Like I said earlier it depends on who does the crime
    Blacks get way more time for the same exact crime

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324432004578304463789858002
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...justice_system_eight_charts_illustrating.html

    Not to mention just more likely to be arrested in the first place

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...eople-are-more-likely-to-get-arrested-for-it/

    The average white kid would have done more time than that kid but the average black kid would have done far more time than both
     
  20. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    LOL. Cenk Uygur is turning Black.:smt018


    All the BS racism and double standards he reports on about how cops treat similar suspects based on skin color has got him heated.

    I wish there had been a more vocal national outcry over the Tamir Rice murder and the fact that NOTHING happened to those officers.

    Our gun laws are a joke. Everyone is allowed to legally open carry except if you're Black.:(
     

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