Personal trainer becomes obese- on purpose. Why?

Discussion in 'Health, Fitness and Fashion' started by Bliss, Oct 18, 2011.

  1. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    To prove a point, apparently. That's some dedication right there.


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    ps: (his personal journey's bandwith had been exceeded so you cannot view his progress right now, thus I couldn't include his link)
     
  2. Sin Mari

    Sin Mari New Member

    Depending on what he was like before (did he have to work hard to stop gaining weight, or could he eat anything and not gain) he might find it much MUCH easier to lose weight than someone who has always been fat. Especially mentally. The mental side of it is supposedly the most difficult part in all of it and he probably doesn't have that.

    Not that I necessarily agree with him harming his health, but what a great guy for wanting to be able to understand what it's like for the people he is trying to help in his work.
     
  3. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    I applaud that he "gets" just how chemically addictive junky food can be.

    Sometimes when I'm pumping petrol, I'm bombarded with a vocal and visual *special* ad on a TV built into the pump machine telling me to come inside and enjoy a doughnut and blue slurpee for 99 cents. And I wonder if a petrol station advertized me to come in and get a line of coke, or a bong hit, or a shot of whiskey - how acceptable would that be?

    Not to mention how overweight people are (life)forced to face the feed-me monster daily in the form of appetite, and fight it like its a piece of cake. Instead of empathy, "lack of willpower" is slapped unto their character. It's appalling.
     
  4. JordanC

    JordanC Well-Known Member

    This is so true. When you start eating crappy you body goes into crave mode.
     
  5. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Really interesting. My boy went through something similar where he droped 80lbs in a year and looks amazing. Definitely not the same guy. Mind you he's 24 but I still gotta respect the hard work and dedication.
    I have another friend who does nutrition who has been thin her whole life. She's one of those people who can literally eat fast food in huge portions daily and not gain weight and until she started doing nutrition I never knew how much it bugged me to see forever skinny people trying to give advice on weight loss. Its like an AA sponsor who's never had a sip of alocohol. It makes no sense.
    So I gotta commend him. Too be its not a reality show.
     
  6. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Yep, as you replied, I added chemically, because that's what they pump into the foods. It's an invisible war that many don't know is going on with them and the big Food corps whose bottom line is profits.

    I mean, I know that we all know this on the surface (those of us that are aware), but sometimes I read a label for cheese curls, for example, and its almost 100 ingredients. Say what? So many just dump them in their cart never bother to even look.
     
  7. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Its totally chemical. Notice how obesity especially as see it today was never a problem until we chemically started fucking with our food.
    I've always wondered why it wasn't treated like crack or other drugs since the chemical additives and flavoring is what you crave. We don't have defienancy for high fructose corn syrup when we drink soda but we fucking crave that shit.
     
  8. JordanC

    JordanC Well-Known Member

    So true. My beloved cheetos. ;)

    I read a study and cannot find it now but eating certain foods can fight off urges for fatty and salty snacks. It basically was the same as this article:

    http://www.fyiliving.com/diet/weight-loss/3-magic-foods-to-fight-food-cravings/
     
  9. Sin Mari

    Sin Mari New Member

    So true. I've always thought that. If you haven't been there (no matter what addiction it is) you don't know what you're talking about.
     
  10. Mikey

    Mikey Well-Known Member

    He's only got 1 more month left, just November. I think he'll be fine although exercising is going to be painful for him, especially in December and not really invigorating.
     
  11. satyr

    satyr New Member

    Publicity stunt.
     
  12. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    I'd tend to agree with you. If you've been fit most of your life, it's a lot easier to get back there, your body remembers. It's no different than the "professional" weight losers, those people who're fit and purposely gain significant amounts of weight so that they can enter the weight loss contests.

    I'm still convinced that we give far too much credit to the "addictive" nature of foods, rather than the individual who makes those unhealthy choices, for whatever reasons. You don't suddenly wake up obese or addictive one day, but you sure can develop an addiction or become obese through habitual behavior and ignoring the common sense of good nutrition.
     
  13. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Swirl that is some ignorant shit fam. If anything people rarely give attention the idea of addiction when talking about obesity. Just like with drugs or alcohol there's always some jack ass who really thinks it comes down to will power.
    Not every single person reacts the same way but that shit is real. There's an actual chemical change going on with in your body. Don't be so quick to dismiss it fam.
     
  14. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    Are you really that selective in reading or just ignorant, Andrea...Must I make it Sesame Street for you..Fine...

    As you often do, you pick out only a part of what's said, and attempt to take exception with it. I NEVER said that food can't be addictive.

    The reality is that the idea and discussion of food and addiction is NOT new it's been discussed often and prominently. Despite addiction, personal factors can't be dismissed, and that was my point, that was clear. I also said that the addiction to food happens over time, it doesn't happen in the same way as crack or meth, from a first use. It takes continued indulgence over a period of time and ignoring that you are continuing to consume unhealthy food.

    I realize that you respond quickly, and often wrongly. But, it's better to be informed with facts and not just rhetoric, and please read with more comprehension my friend.
     
  15. JordanC

    JordanC Well-Known Member

    Willpower is willpower.

    How is the willpower of a thin person who spends their life regulating and eating reasonable any different than the willpower overweight person who garners the factors to lose the weight.

    Whether you regulate daily your whole life or under "diet" regime when you hit a bad weight you still have to force yourself to ignore those cravings and suffer a bit. All thin people don't indulge to their heart's content.
     
  16. velkrum

    velkrum Restricted

    and there's always some lazy loser that needs an excuse.
     
  17. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Is it? So does this country have an obesity problem or a lack of will power problem? As you always say I don't have a dog in this fight, but I don't ignore the science of it. Some people's body's just react completely differently to certain drugs. That's why you have some people who can smoke socially or when they have drinks with friends and those who are pack a day smokers. I think a lot of thinner people don't have stronger will power necessarily, possibly their bodies don't react as harshly to the artificial sugars and other junk in food. We live in a food culture. Shit up until maybe the last five years eating healthy wasn't as accessible or wide spread as it is now. In our culture food is associated with almost everything. When you're happy you eat, when you're sad you eat, when you celebrate you eat, when you mourn you eat and the problem with food is its not avoidable like other vices. Yes you have to be the one to make good choices but its not like alcohol or drugs which you can just avoid all together.
     
  18. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    No kidding. That fat, salt and sugar go right to the pleasure centers of your brain and your body craves them. And then add on top of all that whatever emotional needs eating fulfills, and you've got a powerful habit forming. I bet this whole experience will give him great insight into the struggles overweight go through and will probably even help him reach people who may not have felt motivated to work out before.
     
  19. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Swirl I have seriously had it up to hear with your pontificating horseshit father knows best routine. It's just plain tired old man. I never said that you didn't say food wasn't addictive but you did make it seem like a case of fatty just needing to put the burger down and eat salad. Personal action is a factor but just like with other drugs there needs to be some type of detox program. Its not like other addictions where you can avoid the substance that is killing you. You need food to live and until recently eating healthy hasn't been part of our social order, it was always late nights at the diner after the club or going to eat at some fast food place like McDonalds with your friends or everyone hanging out and ordering pizza. I definitely see a different trend now but for the majority of my life healthy eating wasn't promoted we just went with what tasted good and thats usually all the things that are horrible for you.
     
  20. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Talking from experience playboy?
     

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