Obama to protect up to 5M from deportation

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Bookworm616, Nov 13, 2014.

  1. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

  2. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

  3. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    Lets wait and see what is in the actual executive order before supporting or condemning it, increased boarder security and a pay raise for immigration enforcement officers is also being discussed. Will be interesting to hear the reasoning behind the amnesty if it is given at the levels currently being reported.
     
  4. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    Lol....hell big business hate this cause they will not gave cheap labor
     
  5. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

  6. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    Be an illegal alien mad about other illegal aliens being in America breh's.
     
  7. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    Do keep in mind that so far Obama has either deported more illegals than ANY other president to date, or is on track to do so, no matter how one defines deport (returns vs. deporting vs. departures, can lead to semantic arguments)

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...st-janet-murguia-calls-obama-deporter-chief-/

    http://www.thenation.com/article/17...rted-more-immigrants-any-president-us-history

    On it's face I do think there needs to be a responsible way to deal with the millions of undocumented aliens that are already here. It's easy to say deport them all, but who do you think picked the vegetables, and perform many other labors that most Americans won't do? I know it's a double edged sword as there are tax, revenue, and criminal considerations as well, but this is a complex issue that needs a scalpel, not a broadsword approach.
     
  8. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    That goes w/o saying. Lol

    If people think that what is done for love of country is blinded
     
  9. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/05/u...erican-workers-in-place-of-migrant-labor.html

    American workers white and black quit . The ilegals are doing it
     
  10. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

  11. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    Why? Cheap later.
     
  12. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    It's not liberal bull, it's fact, don't take my word for it, after all it was George W. Bush once said on the topic that there were jobs, "Americans won't do." And yes they often are paid less than the minimum wage, that's the free market at work for both good and bad. Time and time again I read stories like the one below here in Arizona and elsewhere.

    Not to mention, that if said farmers and business men did hire Americans and paid a fair wage, with benefits, cover your ears, because the screaming and yelling about increased food, services, ect. costs from the average consumer would be DEAFENING!

    http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/why-americans-wont-do-dirty-jobs-11092011.html

    Obama has not left the border wide open, hence the major uptick in returns/deportations. Also if you read what is being proposed, the approx. 5 million that could get amnesty would not be permanent. Again, lets see what is actually in the executive order (most reports state that feedback is still being given) before making assumptions.
     
  13. APPIAH

    APPIAH Well-Known Member

    Didnt Ronald Reagan give amnesty to over 3 million people in 1986? What was the population then compared to now?:cool:
     
  14. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    Ronald Reagan also helped cover up the CIA contra crack explosion




    But you ain't hear that from me
     
  15. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    [​IMG]:p:rolleyes:


    It's only temporary amnesty and once Obama leaves office all those illegals revert back to their previous immigration status.

    Executive orders I believe are only valid while the POTUS is in office.
     
  16. APPIAH

    APPIAH Well-Known Member

    An Executive order can only be reversed by another President or declared unconstitutional by a Supreme Court. It just doesnt automatically reverse when the President leaves office :cool:
     
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2014
  17. Blacktiger2005

    Blacktiger2005 Well-Known Member

    The people who will be affected most by this decision will be underclass blacks. The silence is deafening. Denial, denial, denial. Jesse, Al where are thou.
     
  18. Archman

    Archman Well-Known Member

    Goodman, they have to see it to believe it. ....give it some time. ....A finite amount of the social service pie divided into even thinner slices to accommodate the new and the needy will open eyes when they see the new rations. ......
     
  19. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    Lol

    Funny

    I've seen people alluding to that before

    Blacks embracing illegal immigrants wholesale because they don't see the long-term impact it may have on them
     
  20. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

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