NFL QB National Anthem Protest

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Thump, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    Yes, I would agree that there are some who believe that all white people are racists. But keep in mind that many are simply weary. For instance... depending on the situation/setting... I'll change sides of the sidewalk to avoid walking past some just to avoid the possibility of them getting scared and/or thinking i'm about to snatch their purse.

    In fact to answer your question. Here's an example that actually happened in your area. One day my nephew and I were heading to catch the train on the MFL line. We could see that the train one stop away and started picking up our pace at sort of a fast jogging pace when I suddenly nudged him to slow down. He said "What, uncle, the train is coming?", then he noticed what I had spotted, and said... "oh". There was a lady ahead of us who was looking back as if we were possibly pursuing her. Some of us have to change our behavior as to not frighten others. Here it was we were simply trying to up our pace as to not miss the train. Then there's the hoodie issue. I could go on.
     
  2. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    So basically if you're not on your best behaviour at all times, you get screwed one way or another.
    Um, ok, glad l didn't join now, l'm a misfit. In the brig l go. :eek:
     
  3. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Fam I can so relate to this. I don't like jogging outside for this very reason rather do the treadmill or go to the track. Where do you train for your races if you don't mind me asking.
     
  4. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    OMG! Thank you a million times over. All too often BM are trying to make this very point, and it's thrown back at them as they're imagining things because there's truly a level playing field.

    Yup, and it's to the point that many BM (myself included) will avoid exiting the interstate highway at some places just to lessen our chances of encountering that small town cop who's bored and thinks someone like us don't belong there, and/or must be looking to cause some trouble.
     
  5. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    You're absolutely right. It breaks my heart but I have people in my own family who make comments like that and it's because they can't see past their own nose. They have no idea what bp face on a daily basis, they just ignorantly assume "it's 2016, all is equal". I'm quick to correct them but the few who behave this way are male cousins, not very open to hearing the reality of the world.
     
  6. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    I understand I hate that you feel you have to do that or even "have" to do that.

    Can we have an open discussion here?
    I'm not defending her in any way, but as much as she might not understand your feelings, can you see that perhaps she may have felt startled by the new pace, or that you were males. Obama talked about his white grandma...
    Do you think a black lady may have clutched her purse, or no?

    Here is what happened to me on the flip side that might offer another perspective..
    I was walking home and turned and noticed a young male behind me far away. He just sort of appeared.
    So l wouldn't make him - a BM - feel uncomfortable, I deliberately never turned around again and he came up on me and he held me up.

    I have since had local black men call me foolish and tell me they would not only have crossed the street, they would have put their hand in their chest area to infer they were armed.

    Since then, as a matter of survival, l sometimes have to weigh up a situation if l am alone and a young hooded man is behind me.( color/race is irrelevant). I feel fucking awful even going there because before l was so oblivious, so free if not reckless walking all hours up any street (an old black lady once warned me not to wear my gold jewelery and l laughed saying oh l will be fine - l was 21 and very green).

    I think our experiences shape us. Do l worry about a man's comfort level, or mine? That's my quandary.

    And l want you to know it really isn't a black thing, l feel this way in northeast philly, lots of young white vagrant male panhandlers aproaching me for "cigarettes or a light". Honestly they worry me more because l always feel they may be more ruthless, whereas a BM l might be able to calm him like l did my mugger (l kept calling him sweetheart as l was terrified to die).

    Discussing race issues is not easy - way too many misunderstandings occur, but l shared this hoping you understand that l do understand where you are coming from and it brings tears to my eyes because l know what a sweet kind-hearted gentleman you are and would defend you to no end if a racist said anything to you..l just want you to understand there is a flip side just because women are often targeted.
     
  7. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    My honey does that exact same thing. It's really a double whammy when you're not only a bm in America, but a gigantic bm. The intimidation factor is *always* present with my guy. He tries to combat that by smiling, greeting, befriending everyone...but at the end of the day there'll always be someone who fears him for no valid reason.
     
  8. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    Sure, don't mind at all. I'm not sure how much of the DC area you may have seen, but I think you may have mentioned being in some areas of NoVA? I think my area is a lot like Arlington, Fairfax counties and even some parts of Alexandria

    I live in Rockville, MD which in my part...they're now calling North Bethesda:). It's in Montgomery County, and one of the things I absolutely love about the county is that it's vibrant, mostly decent areas and very diverse.

    Anyways... They're are a couple of parks, and roads that have bike/running paths. I'll mix it up and run through some the neighborhoods, the park and of course on the paths without much worry. Thankfully, I've never had a problem, and lots of others are out and about doing the same. However, with all of that being said... I still don't push my luck in that when I run outdoors... I'm ALWAYS dressed for it, on residential streets... I always run in the street, and I never run after dark.

    I used to run at a couple of the local schools, but I don't like going around a track unless it's a very short run.
     
  9. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    I hear you fam. I should take a page from your book. Only time I do street runs is if my schedule lines up with local running groups.
     
  10. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't go that far, but if you are a misfit they have something for you. Lol. That's not the place to buck the system. All of my commanding officers loved me, but there were times I had to stick my neck out for my people to keep us out of trouble. No regrets. :-D

    So let's get you signed up. Its not to late for that red pill. :smt077
     
  11. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    Yes, I get it. My thing is that I never want to startle anyone. Even in places like our parking garage at work... It's quiet and somewhat dark, so if I see someone else, esecially in the direction that I'm walking who may not see me. I'll typical hold my keys in my hand and intentionally let them jingle.

    I'm sorry to hear of you being robbed, and glad you're around to tell about it. I won't be so cold as to say you were foolish. In cases like that which you described... Yes, I'd advise you to cross the street or something, and not totally ignore this person just because you don't know their intentions. I think it's my inner-city upbringing that makes it very instinctive for me to always be ware of my surroundings, especially in a desolate/dark area. So, I definitely understand if others are as well. Especially as a lady... I'd advise you to always be mindful of your situation, and not to take any chances.

    Our (myself and my nephew) thing was that we knew we meant no harm, and understand that the lady really had no way of knowing this. We simply didn't want her to panic and possibly yell out for help. At the time I was about 47ish, but I'm still somewhat athletic in appearance, and my nephew was 20 y/o. Our immediate thought was... What if she panics, and yells for help... That has the potential to get very bad for the two of us if others (and police) truly believe we were up to no good.

    I work at a university, and unfortunately... Plenty of students are crime victims in the area, especially at night. We have a few student employees in our office, and I'm always reminding them to be careful as they're are some wondering in the area who are indeed up to no good and looking for an opportunity. So I often advise them to use the escort services, and not take chances.

    So, I get it... You do have to be weary of muggers (and worse) when out and abut, but it just makes things worse for us when some folks are clearly taking us for criminals because we're black. All I say is that it has been kinda hurtful in the past and it really sucks.

    That's part of where my old-fashioned part comes into play. As a younger I clearly remember my Mom grooming me to always walk on the outisde, and to always see that a young lady I'm with makes it safely to her destination. Then there was my dad reinforcing it a bit later.

    Also... Thanks a bunch for the kind words.
     
  12. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    You know, l was about to reply and when l hit the button, an addum not originally there was included..the part of you being old fashioned and your mum raising you to look out for your lady...
    l was about to type per the bolded part that "ironically, you seem like the very type to stop a mugger hurting anyone..."
    And there it was. You confirmed I was absolutely right.

    l appreciate you sharing your thoughts on this and you have done a tremendous thing expressing your anger and hurt, as well as understanding, in a way that has reached out to me and possibly others. Thank you, DudeNY.
     
  13. meowkittenmeow

    meowkittenmeow Well-Known Member

  14. GFunk

    GFunk Well-Known Member

    And given the downsizing we're going through, you'd be "lucky" if all that happened and you didn't get kicked out and lose your security clearance. I'll take civilian punishment over UCMJ any day. A DUI ain't shit in the civilian world in comparison. A dishonorable discharge follows you forever.
     
  15. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    Sigh. This probably needs it's own thread. If anybody's been wondering why Cam Newton has gone from explaining to the media during the week of the Super Bowl back in February that he's treated differently than other QBs because he's Black to now whenever he's asked about race it's nothing but coon talk from him, this is why:


    https://twitter.com/BSO/status/777945738110205953
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    http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2016/09/panthers-hired-a-white-guy-to-coach-cam-newton-on-how-to-talk-about-race/
     
  16. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    https://twitter.com/BSO/status/777969076664725504
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    http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2016/09/congressman-lee-zeldin-tries-to-connect-ny-bomber-to-colin-kaepernick/
     
  17. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

  18. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Nah, pretty sure that's just an OTH. It's not right to get a dishonorable over that. With an OTH you just lose benefits, it's just like you never joined. With a dishorable you are fucked. I would advise anyone to challenge that, but yeah either way you can lose that clearance.
     
  19. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Downsizing for What? We about to go to war again
     
  20. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

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