Movie: "Diary of Tired Black Man"

Discussion in 'In the Media' started by Nellie, Apr 29, 2006.

  1. Nellie

    Nellie New Member

    http://www.tiredblackman.com/

    Ok, let me guess the plot:

    Professional black man gets tired of the "sisters" starts to adopt several stereotypes against them...dates one white woman, it doesn't work out, declaring that "he tried white women and it was too different" (or something similar) ... he meets nice black woman who makes him realize how wrong he was to ever leave "the sisters" and that it was HIM all the time, and they live happily ever after...

    Although, I know it happens, I don't like it when people think black men date white women only as a last resort (hence the "tired" and "angry" references) because they have some stereotype against black women. And these movies made by people from the black community only perpetuate this thought.

    - Black men who date non-black women AUTOMATICALLY must despise black women

    - He must have a bunch of misdirected and untrue sterotypes about finger-snapping divas dancing in his head.

    Well, most black men I meet are not like this, but some do hold some of these sterotypes. But it is not fair to portray every interracial relationship that way in the black movies

    Finally, he may just happen to like white women...How about that? WITHOUT hatred for any other woman.

    Why is a black man allowed to say he "loves black women" without any heat but not allowed to say he "loves white women", without getting pariah status? I think the above tells part of the reason.

    When black men are not allowed to say they are attracted to white women, then these cop-out excuses get put to the forefront
     
  2. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member



    You know, Nellie, I don't know why, but I've always liked you. :) Maybe it's just a coincidence? :wink:

    Anyway, although I agree with you wholeheartedly on all of this, consider the fact that this COULD (just could) be a way of fighting fire with fire against the media. How about that?

    But for the most part, you are right.
     
  3. LA

    LA Well-Known Member

    Actually, in the short clip, the BM goes to his second home to pick up his daughter. His ex-wife (BW) is at the house with a group of other BW. All the women are making remarks about the BM because he pulls up to the house with a WW in the car. While the WW is waiting in the car, the BM goes to the door and his ex-wife gives him dirty looks while her friends yell comments at him.

    They say things like.. "You're a tired ass nigga. You couldn't find a strong sista to be with so you go out and find a weak ass WW. I'm sick of tired ass niggas like you. You got a WW so you could walk all over her."

    The BM replies by saying: "(his ex-wife's name), who bought this house?; Who paid for all the furniture in this house? I even bought another house, bigger than this one and I work hard. You haven't worked in how many years? And I'm a weak ass black man? No, I'm a tired black man. Tired of the four years I spent coming home to a drama-filled situation instead of a peaceful home."

    I would put more of the dialogue but I don't feel like backtracking. So anyways, the video isn't made by the same director of "Diary of Mad Black Woman" by Tyler Perry. Instead it's made by some unknown director and it won't be release on a major motion picture production company.
     
  4. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    I gotta go back and read through the forums again. It seems that from what I am reading, the black women in the site are debating the film because of the message it's trying to convey to them when a 'Something New' forum wouldn't even phase them. :roll: Once again, hypocrisy reels it's ugly head...

    man, I'd like to see the kind of hating that would go on against us in a site like that! :mrgreen:


    In addition, this is what the men are saying (or trying to say at least):

    1. Black men are opting for relations outside of their 'race' because relations within it are even harder than being in an IR one. Too many black women in this world have ridiculously high standards on black men, but will say, do, think, and feel in anyway as much as they can to degrade and downgrade black men as much as possible due to the aftermath of past life regressions, and will use the faulty logic of those said regressions to constitute strength and pride with an arrogant, loud, bossy, and domineering attitude, when the events that occurred back in those days are the original innovation of all of this said 'strength' and 'pride' but on average, many black women are too narrow-minded, insecure, and naive to even realize and understand this. What's even sadder is the fact that as much as these types of black women resent black men and white women, as well as black male/white female relations, they try to emulate white women within their own culture and upbringing, and anything that is pronounced and known to be black-oriented or originated is dubbed 'dirty,' 'nappy', 'trifulent', or whatever.

    2. To speak out against IR relations between black male/white female relations simply because it strikes a few nerves in you, causing you to feel as if you have been personally rejected or slighted, and then running on those emotions while feeding into your own fabricated conspiracy theories about it, based solely on a mere personal interpretation, is nothing more than a psychotic inferiority complex and irrational bias.

    3. We as black men (especially young black men) have every right to exercise our 1st amendment privileges as much as any other demographic of people do, but no matter what, people will act overly hypocritical and hypercritical whenever we do, and this type of constant bullshit from you black women, as well as many black-wannabe white women, white supremacists, and several others, is not only no better than the radical feminist fables that the white male patriarchies of yesterday 'blessed' us with, but also just as racist and prejudice as the writings, teachings, and doctrines of the Aryan Union, whom all are, most likely, no better than you, especially when you date and fuck these type of psychos behind closed doors, (opposites attract, you attract what YOU are, etc.) but then desire to hate and fear us young black males for all the things that you, white men, white women, and all the rest of the other demographics, ONLY DO AGAIN AND AGAIN TO ONE ANOTHER. Get over yourselves, or go fuck yourselves.



    Well, those are more like my words being used as a translation, but whatever...



    anyway, THIS is what the black women are repeatedly saying:

    " If and whenever black men speak out about how we are around them, how we feel about them, what we say about them, how we treat them, and other things, then it's automatically 'bashing' and because they are young black males, more than likely the rest of the world will agree with us on this, since the rest of the world pretty much thinks of young black males the exact same way."



    Well, there ya go... my 2 cents as a translation of the TBM forum, but only for now.
     
  5. Nellie

    Nellie New Member


    Although this is a small and unknown film, it still promotes this type of thought as it makes its way through the subculture. I'd like to be a fly on the wall hearing a conversation on this topic in an African American beauty shop.

    I read through some of the comments on the forums and basically it can be summed up as making this entire issue into a dichotomy of:

    a) 'strong' black men who love black women or
    b) 'weak' black men who hate black women and themselves

    An admission to an attraction to white women automatically puts you in 'b'


    Although I am not a black woman, I also don't like the 'Something New' thing either in that it promotes basically the same thing that was in the film clip. "I am dating a white man because there are no black men left".

    That just sounds stupid to me. I could only imagine how a White man would feel if he happened to overhear his black wife say something like that.

    And Sardonic...Thanks for the complements! Your comments are always on point
     
  6. Boll Onin

    Boll Onin Member

    This sort of reminds me of the story line in The Brothers in which the Bill Bela my character in his player logic feels that white women are the best option because they aren't as outwardly emotional as black women. The lesson they were supposed to teach is that brothers have nothing but themselves to blame for their choices. If they are a dog then they will get flees.
    I would have liked to have seen an representation of the lesson that it is the person we love not the out ward image. That being true and emotionally mature is much better than going stereotypes and myths.

    Instead we get a scene framed in such a way that says you can only be a strong black man by choosing a black woman.

    What the film and all films of this sort fail in is showing that you should be emotionally strong in your self. That determines the type of relationships you enter into and leave from.

    but hey everyone appears to enjoy a good one dimensional morality play on the virtues of ethnic superiority and myopic social views.
     
  7. shaft2k4

    shaft2k4 Active Member

    :D
     
  8. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    I was a good move of brownie to post in here. We need more perspectives from black women like her.
     
  9. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    Unfortunately, no matter how different we all can be from one another, or what disposition we show to the world, somebody (one way or another) has it in for us no matter what.
     
  10. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    Yes, that's what I mean by having a slave-mentality, but at the same time, trying to rise and overcome racism and prejudice.
     
  11. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    <<<<tired old black man
     
  12. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    Brownie!! you are doing a heck of a job!! :D
     
  13. LaydeezmanCris

    LaydeezmanCris New Member

    For some reason, my reviews on this "movie" are rather negative.
     
  14. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    brownie, dont sweat it, i was even attacked by a good friend I thought on here so, i dont sweat it, i forgive and move on :D
     
  15. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

  16. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    or something. some people cant let things go, they dont like the fact that something is over and flog the horse to death. you have to be the change you want to see, as Gandhi said. So not answering and moving on yourself is the best way. thats my position, not telling you what to do :)
     
  17. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    yw deary
     
  18. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    see, its therapeutic. It helps not to be involved in the back and forth adn with drama all the time.
     
  19. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    good woman
     
  20. Nellie

    Nellie New Member

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