Michele Bachmann Agrees: Black Children Were Better Off Under Slavery

It’s turning out to be a banner day for Michele Bachmann. First she went on CNBC to admit that she hopes job losses will benefit her presidential ambitions. Now we find that Mrs. Bachmann has signed a radically conservative pledge called “The Marriage Vow – A Declaration of Dependence upon Marriage and Family.” The pledge, pushed by Bob Vander Plaats (pictured), a social conservative evangelical in Iowa, and his organization, The Family Leader, as a way for GOP presidential candidates to prove their family values bona fides, is naturally anti-abortion, anti-divorce, and anti-gay marriage. But there’s also this extra-special part, as Jack & Jill Politics points out:

Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA’s first African-American President.

No one with ambitions to be President of the United States would ever be either stupid or crazy enough to sign that, right? Well, Michele Bachmann yesterday became the first candidate to sign.

http://www.alan.com/2011/07/08/michele-bachmann-agrees-black-children-were-better-off-under-slavery/

 

Whatever one can infer from her statement, is it statistically true or not?

 

you beat me to the punch . I wanted to thread this. It is a shame that people would say this kind of crap. the republicans especially the christian ones keep shooting themselves in the foot

 

Ok, she didn't say this, she signed a document that said it... not shocking, but not much of an incident to disturb the circus either.

 

This cunt is beyond dumb. So, anything she emits from her beak doesn't deserve any reply.

The Kid Rasta

 

she should have read the document before you make a commitment to something that you would regret. that says something about her judgement IF she dont believe that.

 

I'm sick and tired of dumb stupid people. I wish I could cleanse the world of them. Does these idiots know that the two person black family was ripped apart under slavery. The black male was a breeder to impregnate as many women as possible to create the labor force for the plantation system. The black woman was without a husband she was used as an instrument to harvest the new generation of slaves from having as many men impregnate her as possible. This is the untold story that never gets told and is washed over. Just look around you of all the different color hues of blacks from centuries of miscegnation.

 

I don't think any of us are surprised by this crap anymore, are we fam? This is the current state of the Republican party: exploit white racism and populism under the faux-race neutral rubric of "American values". The sad part is that I'm not sure that the country is progressive enough to rally against this. Just like Reagan's euphemistic anti-minority statements like "welfare queens" metaphors, etc, it seems like this crap is slipping by, aiding by a supplicant media that is afraid to call a spade a spade (no pun intended, lol). As long as the Republicans don't use actual racial slurs in a statement, they will attempt to explain anything away.

 

I think she's a flaming arsehole, and stupid as a box of hair.

But I am pleased I only saw 1 gender-based insult on this thread. There's enough to bash her for, and enough to criticize without calling her a "cunt" in my opinion.

This announcement has been brought to you by a resident feminist. ;-)

 

true, shes annoying everytime i hear her

 

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You're asking if the children of slaves are better off than those of the free?
That would be a resounding "no" all across the board.

I've never read any part of history where a free coupled looked at a group of uneducated, berated and broken slaves and said:

"Look at that family forced to pick cotton together under the threat of physical violence and other abuses. That is the perfect family model. We should be envious of their dehumanizing imprisonment."

No one who spouts off so often about the importance of freedom as much as her group does, would ever make a case for the present day enslavement of free men. Any student of history would also know that slave families were routinely broken up on purpose. They were separated on arrival and even at birth.

Still...there are plenty of slaves in the world right now.

Read through their stories a bit on CNN or the BBC for example, and you'll realize how ridiculous the notion in that contract actually is.

- Daft

 

The rate of illegitimacy in the African-American community post slavery as compared to now is what the “The Marriage Vow" purports to reference, does it not?

Is there a statistic, either way, to confirm the above is what I'm asking, not some vague inquiry/comparison into the quality of life of Black people, then and now.

 

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I don't even know what point you're trying to make here. Slaves didn't have "marriages," so none of the black children were legitimate back then. A couple who loved each other might have a ceremony and skip the broom every once in a while, but they had no legal rights to each other or their children because they were considered to be property. Slaves were often separated from their biological relatives at a moment's notice by their "master." Most of the time, the largest and strongest males on the plantation where ordered to breed with the women like animals to produce more children who were suitable incessant physical labor.

Any comparison of that life to modern day families, be they married couples, unmarried couples or households headed by single parents, is completely insane. I can't believe that anybody, black, white or otherwise, would bother engaging in a conversation about this topic. Political discourse in this country keeps reaching new lows.

 

Post-Slavery. Did I not write post slavery? Does a child born in 1860 not indicate most of his/her life will be lived will in a post-slavery setting?

I could care less about this so called political discourse, and probably have more disregard and antipathy for Michelle Bachman than most of you can muster being cheer-lead by your favorite pundit. I'm interested in the dynamic of the Black family immediately following slavery and have done a brief study into my own and other families; how they were constituted, how they came together to marry.
I'm glad many of you are informed, but nothings been said that I don't know; any statistic on the aforementioned dynamic is what I was interested in. I will have to dig out my copy of Gutman's The Black Family in Slavery and Freedom, 1750-1925 to find what I couldn't find as readily in a cursory web search; that I have any interest in discussing the veracity of this "pledge", or the circus that is Michelle Balkman, is a mistake.

 

It is actually statistically true. And it is actually rather inaccurate. The break down of the black family is often blamed on slavery, in fact this is categorically false.

What had the biggest affect on the break down of the black family where the policy and systems put into place after slavery. Application of "the new deal", welfare, and government assistance....and in the end the biggest impact was white people themselves. Another thing....whites LOVE to bring up slavery as if the end of slaver was the beginning of the free black. I'm not sure if its ignorance or stupidity. If freedom had come to the negro at the end of slavery white would have a valid retort....but we know this is false as well.

A couple of examples, while poor white families were given government assistance and were allowed to have husbands and boyfriends still living in the home, black families were not. They would actually sent investigators into the community to make sure that people getting aid did not have a male living in the home.

In the black communities when they wanted to remove, rezone, or move people they would start arresting the black men...throw them in jail. Once moved they could come and to break down the community and built a golf course.

Marriage. Once it started becoming acceptable for whit women to be pregnant without being married. As goes the majority race, so goes the fringe, or minority groups.

and on and on and on. So if white are upset at the state of America...they should look in the mirrior.

 

This is why I fuck with you Uncle Ruckus. He wasn't talking about "minorities" he was talking about BLACKS. he was talking Chicago's south side which had/has the highest concentration of blacks in the city. He was talking about the projects...black folk.

 

your add would made sense if was in context with anything I said, and also if blacks were able to affect change in America...

... neither are true.

 

She is a stupid bitch.....her and Palin share a twisted brain.