MBA schools for Andrae

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  1. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Andrae, since you want to make money so bad here are solid schools that preps you for > 100 K.
    Exclusive new research shows that grads of top business schools earn far more than lesser-ranked peers, both at graduation and over the long haul.

    Harvard Business School is the most expensive full-time MBA program, with tuition and required fees eclipsing $106,000 for two years. It's a big investment, but it pays off: HBS grads earn more money over the span of their careers than grads from any other MBA program.



    On average, MBAs from the top 45 B-schools will make around $2.5 million in base pay and bonuses over the course of a 20-year career. But there are great differences between the total compensation of the schools at the top of the list compared with those closer to the bottom, especially as MBAs move deeper into their careers. An MBA grad from Harvard, for instance, will earn nearly $4 million over the span of two decades. A grad from the University of Iowa's Tippie College of Business will earn less than half that. Newly minted MBAs at some top programs, such as Yale, earn high starting salaries but experience only a minimal increase over time. At other schools, such as the University of Connecticut, MBA grads more than double their salaries over the 20-year period.


    Based on the survey data, MBA grads from Harvard earn the most -- a median of $3,867,903 -- over those 20 years. Harvard is followed by the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School, where grads earn $3,491,371 over their careers, then Columbia Business School, with a total career compensation of $3,349,669.

    On average, grads from the top 45 MBA programs experience a 75 percent pay increase over the 20-year span, almost identical to the U.S. median for all employees, according to PayScale data. Salaries for grads from Georgia Tech and the University of Connecticut more than double two decades into their careers, and MBAs from George Washington University enjoy a whopping 114 percent increase in salary over the span of 20 years. The total compensation for GW grads over that period, however, amounts to only half of what a Harvard MBA will make.

    Not So Startling Gains

    On the other end of the spectrum, MBAs from the University of Michigan's Ross School of Business get only a 32 percent pay jump, and grads from Yale, MIT's Sloan School of Management, and Dartmouth's Tuck School of Business experience a not-so-impressive 46 percent rise over the span of their careers.

    It's unclear why grads from top schools might not fare as well as others over the long haul, but one possibility is that the B-school world has changed. Twenty years ago, recruiting was concentrated in a handful of top schools; today, big company recruiters may hire from dozens. The pay premium awarded new MBAs wasn't what it is today. Investment banking and consulting were not the default career choices that they are now. For some schools, those trends may moderate pay over time. Another possibility: Some schools, such as MIT Sloan, produce a lot of entrepreneurs, a career track that by necessity entails a fair degree of failure. "If you pulled out the entrepreneurs from our total and focused only on the grads with a more traditional trajectory, the increase would probably be higher," says MIT Sloan's director of career development, Jackie Wilbur.

    At Dartmouth, starting salaries dropped 7.5 percent, to $124,000, compared with last year. Similarly, at Wharton -- the program with the highest average salary at graduation -- the median compensation of MBA graduates fell 5.5 percent, to $137,000. "These are schools known for investment banking and consulting, areas where salaries have dropped off a bit," Lee says. The news is more positive for MBAs further along in their careers. In fact, overall, MBA grads at the 20-year mark actually experienced a 2 percent increase in pay compared with last year.

    The main pay differentiators among B-schools are the kinds of jobs grads are looking for. "Industry is everything," says Andy Chan, vice-president for career development at Wake Forest University. "If you look at the [mix] of industries that schools like Stanford, Harvard, and MIT send students into compared with everyone else, it accounts for the biggest difference in salary." At Wharton, 80 percent of MBA grads go into finance and consulting jobs at such companies as McKinsey and Bain. Similarly, 76 percent of MBA grads from Columbia get jobs in the same two industries, pushing the school's median starting salary to $119,000.

    On the other hand, graduates from the Michigan's Ross School -- ranked 5th overall in Bloomberg Businessweek's 2008 ranking of full-time MBA programs -- brought home a median salary of $107,000, according to PayScale, 22nd among the top 45 programs. At Michigan, nearly as many students go into marketing and sales positions as finance, with large numbers of students signing on at companies such as Amazon.com (NASDAQ: AMZN - News), Kraft Foods (NYSE: KFT - News), and Procter & Gamble (NYSE: PG - News).

    Regional Premiums

    Location also plays a role in the compensation differences, or what Tepper's Dammon calls a "New York premium." While MBAs from Wharton and Columbia tend to flock to Wall Street, where a cost-of-living premium further boosts salary numbers, most Ross grads stay in the Midwest. The same is true at Southern Methodist University's Cox School of Business. While 45 percent of Cox MBAs go into finance-related positions, three out of four grads remain in the Southwest, where salaries pale in comparison with those offered to MBAs in the Northeast. At Cox, recent MBA grads earned a median salary of $77,200, significantly lower than the $90,860 average median across all 45 programs.


    Highest-Paid MBA Alumni


    Harvard University

    Median cash compensation for Harvard graduates
    Less than two years' experience: $133,000
    10 years' experience: $182,000
    20 years' experience: $232,000
    Career total: $3,867,903

    Notable alumni:
    James Dimon, chairman, president, and CEO, JPMorgan Chase
    Donna Dubinsky, co-founder, Palm; former president and CEO, Handspring
    John Paulson, founder and president, Paulson & Co.
    Meg Whitman, former president and CEO, eBay
    Gary Rodkin, president and CEO, ConAgra Foods

    Why students choose Harvard:
    "It's cliche to say that HBS is 'transformational,' so I won't say it. But the program did fundamentally alter the way I think about the world and my position in it. There is almost no part of me that it hasn't touched and affected for the better."
    -Consulting student


    University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)

    Median cash compensation for Wharton graduates
    Less than two years' experience: $137,000
    10 years' experience: $161,000
    20 years' experience: $203,000
    Career total: $3,491,372

    Notable alumni:
    Lewis Platt, former chairman, president, and CEO, Hewlett-Packard
    Peter Lynch, vice-chairman, Fidelity
    James Tisch, president and CEO, Loews
    Peter Nicholas, founder, chairman, and former CEO, Boston Scientific
    David Pottruck, former president and CEO, Charles Schwab

    Why students choose Wharton:
    "Wharton has a well-rounded program that is particularly good for those interested in consulting. The school has a great reputation and is able to attract lots of companies to on-campus recruiting. The diversity and talents demonstrated by the student body are also unbeatable."
    -Consulting student


    Columbia University

    Median cash compensation for Columbia graduates
    Less than two years' experience: $119,000
    10 years' experience: $165,000
    20 years' experience: $194,000
    Career total: $3,349,669

    Notable alumni:
    Cesareo Alierta Izuel, chairman and CEO, Telefonica
    Keith Sherin, vice-chairman and CFO, General Electric
    Jerome Chazen, founder, Liz Claiborne
    Henry Kravis, co-founder, co-chairman, and co-CEO, KKR
    Rochelle Lazarus, chairman and former CEO, Ogilvy & Mather Worldwide

    Why students choose Columbia:
    "Columbia is a fantastic finance school with opportunities to connect with and learn from 'heads of industry.' The adjunct faculty -- particularly in the asset management area -- is truly amazing."
    -Finance student


    Stanford University

    Median cash compensation for Stanford graduates
    Less than two years' experience: $123,000
    10 years' experience: $149,000
    20 years' experience: $206,000
    Career total: $3,327,145

    Notable alumni:
    John Browne, former CEO, BP
    Stephen Ellis, worldwide managing director, Bain & Co.
    Richard Fairbank, co-founder, chairman, president, and CEO, Capital One
    Charles Schwab, founder and chairman, Charles Schwab
    Scott McNealy, co-founder, chairman, and former CEO, Sun Microsystems

    Why students choose Stanford:
    "The small class size and the non-grade disclosure student policy create a unique collaboration atmosphere in the school that permits you to maximize learning from your peers. Being in the middle of Silicon Valley also generates a unique opportunity for anyone interested in entrepreneurship."
    -Entrepreneurship student


    Dartmouth College (Tuck)

    Median cash compensation for Tuck graduates
    Less than two years' experience: $124,000
    10 years' experience: $142,000
    20 years' experience: $181,000
    Career total: $3,146,031

    Notable alumni:
    Peter Dolan, former CEO, Bristol-Myers Squibb
    Christopher Sinclair, former chairman and CEO, PepsiCo
    Kevin McGrath, former president and CEO, Digital Angel
    Roger McNamee, co-founder and managing director, Elevation Partners
    Don Wilson III, former chief risk officer, JPMorgan Chase

    Why students choose Tuck:
    "There is nothing like being at Tuck. The community is so strong, and you learn so much about business and about yourself in two years. I'm leaving with more confidence, more knowledge, and more connections than I ever expected to get from an MBA program."
    -Investment Banking student
     
  2. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Thanks a lot for posting that fam. Its greatly appreciated. I actually went to Uconn for my masters in accounting so hopefully they take all those credits and the mba program will only be a year. I have a friend who just graduated from Wharton a few weeks ago and already has a high paying six figure salary but she also had a few experience but thanks again this definitely put things in better perspective for me.
     
  3. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Wharton is a power house.

    Your buddy Trump and his daughter went to Undergrad business school there. I was told his pretty daughter was a 4.0 student, talk about beauty and brain
     
  4. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Dude no kidding but talk about out of my league. She's pretty ideal
     

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