Matt James & Rachel Kirkconnell from The Bachelor

Discussion in 'Celebrity WW/BM Couples' started by SilverSmith, Jun 12, 2020.

  1. Rollx007

    Rollx007 Well-Known Member

    Never watched this show before, but checked it out for this season for OBVIOUS reason, it reminds me of the Flavour of Love LOOL.

    I'd assume the ratings were lower once they allowed a BM to be Bachelor of a very white-male dominated show

    My opinion on Matt, he's playing the show very politically and doesn't come off genuine.
    His desire to find someone that can get "vulnerable" with him, is a very strange focus for a relationship.
    He should focus on finding a stable relationship with a stable woman that's ready to commit.
    Maybe not having his father around has impacted his thought-process on dating, he seems very emotional.
     
  2. Rollx007

    Rollx007 Well-Known Member

    They're already attacking him on social media for not paying extra attention to the black women, he's actually playing it fair, but obviously, he's not able to follow his heart.
     
  3. darkcurry

    darkcurry Well-Known Member

    It has died down. There are only a few among the female social media engagement that are attacking him, but the media keeps giving the narrative weight it can't carry on it's own. Like I said before the favorites among "bachelornation" have been mostly white women with Katie leading this week. So it just goes to show that certain media outlets out there are ALSO against bm/ww relationships for how they keep paying attention to something that is dying down just trying to stir them up so that they'll stay around.

    Hopefully more and more folks highlight the double standard because BOTH of the black female bachelors picked white men. And they both support him so I wonder if he does pick a white woman will they defend him, turn on him or go silent?
     
  4. Rollx007

    Rollx007 Well-Known Member

    I would love to see that, the double standard is CHRONNNIICCC
    Having this on a grand scale, on a popular show, is necessary to push the key point.

    That BM are being bullied and taunted for dating-out, while BW are praised.
     
  5. darkcurry

    darkcurry Well-Known Member

    And just like that

    The 'frontrunner' on season 25 of The Bachelor Rachael Kirkconnell has her racist past put out front and center.
    https://ew.com/tv/rachael-kirkconnel-bachelor-apology/
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    And the host Chris Harrison is stepping down and won't be on the finale of the show after his comments on the matter:
    https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1360673047057956864


    All of the racism and stuff seem to have come out and all of sudden not tolerated once a black man became 'The Bachelor'. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember the two black 'Bachelorettes' having fans dive into the white male contestants past and any of them being exposed for racism. It just so happens all of this comes out and boils over with white female contestants on a season that features a BLACK 'Bachelor'.

    And of course those "fans" are back to blame it on you know who.
     
  6. spiderdunk

    spiderdunk Member

    I don't think he has the testicular fortitude to pick who he wants, I think he'll cave a pick a black chick because he's afraid of the usual hypocritical suspects attacking him.

    That's not a man, that's a little boy when you let outside forces dictate your life.
     
  7. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    All of this dramatic crap is the nature of "reality" TV. All these dating shows (which are all lame BTW) aren't about finding actual love or romance or relationships or whatever the creators/producers claim they're about. It's all about ratings, publicity, drama/conflict/controversy, etc., and they're going to tailor every show/season to fit the people they cast/exploit. Every "character" (which is what the people on these shows are) has his or her own storyline and role to play. There's always an angle, and this show is no exception.

    Everything done is calculated and edited to stir up whatever kind of drama that'll get folks riled up, regardless of which side they're for or against. It's never going to change, because they're getting the kind of responses they're after (and making a lot of money in the process). They know how the folks watching will react, and they're going to play up every bit of drama it stirs up, especially on social media. And the more traumatic for the cast and upsetting for the fans the better as far as production is concerned. It's all for the sake of the TV show, which is all they care about. Anyone looking for something real, serious, or positive from a reality show is expecting too much.
     
  8. darkcurry

    darkcurry Well-Known Member

    Yeah I'm hep to that. But with all of the progress of IR between bm/ww on TV and movies I thought they wouldn't feed that beast. I thought it would've been something else they would've create controversy out of. But episode after episode I was wrong wrong wrong. lol.

    They definitely wanted to hype up the racial tension with the first black 'bachelor'. They pretty much left it alone with the black female 'bachelorettes'.
     
  9. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    So basically you're one of the folks expecting too much. lol

    Of course they're going to feed that beast; otherwise they wouldn't have included any IR in the first place. It's not like they really do it to be more inclusive and promote diversity or representation for IR folks. lol Their primary goal is to create TV drama, so why would they use anything else to create controversy when they already know what works without fail?

    Of course they hype it up, because the audience predictably falls for it every time. They know how to play the gullible folks who watch this garbage, regardless of whether it's a "bachelor" or "bachelorette" as the main character. They know who'll whine if it's a black bachelor "dating" IR, and they also know who will whine about how "unfair" it is when compared to a black bachelorette doing the same thing. The networks know what they're doing, and there's no incentive to change the formula when they already have one that works so well. That's the nature of the beast, and they're going to keep feeding that beast what they know will sustain it. And they have the audience to thank for the never-ending supply of "food".

    All the complaints bring to mind the saying about insanity: "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result." Always watching (and complaining about) the same things & expecting it to make some kind of difference is crazy, and serves no real purpose. When folks support this garbage by watching it and allowing themselves to be played by getting all worked up and taking it too seriously, they become part of the problem they're complaining about. "Reality" TV is not that deep, yet some folks keep responding to it as though it is. The goal for the networks is good TV, and for them the more drama the better.

    If someone has an issue with the kind of crap these shows promote, the best thing to do is quit supporting it by not watching it. Just my opinion of course, but folks need to quit looking to the media to support and/or promote IR and focus on REAL LIFE. The best representation there is for IR couples/families is those of us in them just doing our thing and not giving a damn who does or doesn't approve. We don't need validation from the media or anyone else, because we don't have anything to prove to anyone. We should all be too busy being happy and living our lives to bother giving a damn about the input of people whose opinions don't matter. Life is too damn short for that shit.
     
  10. darkcurry

    darkcurry Well-Known Member

    That reminds me of a conversation I had with my nieces and some of the women in my family with the hype around Disney's first black princesses. I had some similar things to say about them expecting too much for black representation from white owned companies. Didn't go over too well but my other niece got my point.

    Anyway as a big fan of Interracial in all of Art as I have shown in my post about some of the IR literature and history. And the art pieces and photos you and others post in the 'Lovers Only' and 'Lover's Only II' forums that are simply beautiful. I be meaning to post some in those parts of the forum but you guys find things I can't seem to find. That's why I be asking where do ya'll find those pic and vids from. lol. They're wonderful. But I'm also really a fan of arts & science overall and I always try to remember what I told my family members when it comes to art in movies, music and TV shows. Just who is controlling it. Art in Movies, music and TV at times have shown to be informative and expressive of knowledge and messages like The Matrix and one of my favorite IR films The United Kingdom. But there is that side we do have to remember that is (purposely)counterproductive. So it is best not to take it that deep and become one of the sheep to it.

    The Bachelor isn't really my cup of tea but they reeled me in with the intrigue of The Black Bachelor. I kind of new those things would happen, but just try to give the benefit of the doubt once it died down some in the middle of the season where people weren't really paying attention to it. But the media was like nope nope we're making this a thing. lol. My fault right there and thanks for reminding me of that. Great Post, @Tamstrong
     
  11. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    I just watched this week's episode. How did y'all know Rachael was frontrunner back than?
     
  12. SilverSmith

    SilverSmith Well-Known Member

    Last month, insiders leaked information revealing that Rachael Kirkconnell was going to be a finalist. Look no further than Youtube for videos about the current season for confirmation.
     
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2021
  13. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    Looking at my YouTube feed/recommendations yesterday & doing a YouTube search just now after seeing @SilverSmith's post, it looks like this whole scandal spoiled the season.
     
  14. darkcurry

    darkcurry Well-Known Member

    Yeah pretty much what @SilverSmith said and their interactions on past episodes were obvious.

     
  15. darkcurry

    darkcurry Well-Known Member

    I stopped watching. Never was a fan to begin with but gave it a shot with the first black bachelor and once it became clear of their motives racially I was out. That scandal is manufactured instigated.
     
  16. SilverSmith

    SilverSmith Well-Known Member

    Monday's episode, for me, was the last. He posted a statement on Instagram calling for the franchise to be more racially sensitive. What the hell, man, it's a reality dating show.
     
  17. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    Yeah both Matt & the black bacheorlette Rachel Lindsey just come off as virtue signaling in these "Good Morning America" & "Entertainment Tonight" clips from Yesterday:





    If you do a youtube search for "the bachelor rachael" like I did, the winner & the current status of Matt's relationship with the winner is spoiled for you. But I think Matt hinted at it with his IG post this week.
     
  18. darkcurry

    darkcurry Well-Known Member

    Chris was actually right where he said "where was this lense at in 2018?" Which further proves they knew where they were going with all of this. Like I said it's manufactured. No one dug up the white male contestants racist past for the black female bachelorettes, but they just so happen to find things about a white female on a black male bachelor's show. Who is "coincidently" the frontrunner.
     
  19. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    I just watched Ben Shapiro's breakdown of the whole controversy:



    Woah, I didn't realize that Matt originally defended Racheal earlier this month & Chris Harrison's alleged controversial comments was basically just a rehash of what Matt said when he defended Racheal and now Matt denounced both of them this week. What a shit show! Looks like Matt just buckled under pressure. This whole controversy is validating why I've always said I had no interest in a black "The Bachelor".
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2021
  20. darkcurry

    darkcurry Well-Known Member

    Ben Shapiro is one of the most arrogantly willful ignorant talkingheads when it comes to racism(and fans the flames of racism), but his take on Matt and the "woke" police are correct here.
     

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