Magzne pics shock w/ model vs plus-size model disparity

I have had conversations with a number of men on this subject, and was talking to a guy who has been around a while as I was writing this and he explained what he and other guys talk about. He said when men are younger, they are more driven to stay fit to get play, but as they get older it's more about health. But they don't sit around and WORRY about whether they will lose their woman's interest. And being a woman, and having had conversations with other women about weight, self-esteem and what part that plays in male-female interactions, I don't think I'm totally talking out my behind here.

To say I'm naive on the subject of women and fear...pfffft. My sister is one example of the very thing I'm talking about. A good friend is another. Fear is absolutely the motive behind each of their obsession with not gaining weight.

 

Outstanding post and I completely agree with ya.:smt023

 

You are though.

 

Ok. For you and Sin, in my little sheltered corner of the world this has been my experience.

 

No, she isn't.

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Prevalence of Eating Disorders Among Males:

Approximately 10% of eating disordered individuals coming to the attention of mental health professionals are male (Wolf, 1991; Fairburn & Beglin, 1990).

There is a broad consensus, however, that eating disorders in males are clinically similar to, if not indistinguishable from, eating disorders in females (Margo 1987; Schneider & Agras, 1987; Crisp et al.,1986; Vandereycken & Van der Broucke, 1984).

Gender Differences Regarding Dieting and Body Shape:

A national survey of 11,467 high school students and 60,861 adults revealed the following gender differences (Serdula et al., 1993):

Among the adults, 38% of the women and 24% of the men were trying to lose weight.

Among high school students, 44% of the females and 15% of the males were attempting to lose weight.

Based on a questionnaire administered to 226 college students (98 males and 128 females) concerning weight, body shape, dieting, and exercise history, the authors found that 26% of the men and 48% of the
women described themselves as overweight. Women dieted to lose weight whereas men usually exercised (Drewnowski & Yee, 1987).

A sample of 1,373 high school students revealed that girls (63%) were four times more likely than boys (16%) to be attempting to reduce weight through exercise and caloric intake reduction. Boys were three times more likely than girls to be trying to gain weight (28% versus 9%).

The cultural ideal for body shape for men versus women continues to favor slender women and athletic, V-shaped muscular men (Rosen &Gross, 1987).

In general, men appear to be more comfortable with their weight and perceive less pressure to be thin than women.

A national survey indicated that only 41% of men are dissatisfied with their weight as compared with 55% of women; moreover, 77% of underweight men liked their appearance as opposed to 83% of underweight women.

Males were more likely than females to claim that if they were fit and exercised regularly, they felt good about their bodies. Women were more concerned with aspects of their appearance, particularly weight (Cash, Winstead, & Janda, 1986).

Occupational Hazards:

Gymnasts, runners, body builders, rowers, wrestlers, jockeys, dancers, and swimmers are particularly vulnerable to eating disorders because their sports necessitate weight restriction (Andersen, Bartlett, Morgan, & Brownell, 1995).
It is important to note, however, that weight loss in an attempt to improve athletic success differs from an eating disorder when the central psychopathology is absent.

Media:

Nemeroff, Stein, Diehl, and Smolak (1994) suggest that males may be receiving increasing media messages regarding dieting, and ideal of muscularity, and plastic surgery options (such a pectoral and calf implants).

DiDomenico and Andersen (1988] found that magazines targeted primarily to women included a greater number of articles and advertisements aimed at weight reduction (e.g., diet, calories) and those targeted at men contained more shape articles and advertisements (e.g., fitness, weight lifting, body building, or muscle toning).

The magazines most read by females ages 18-24 had 10 times more diet content than those most popular among men in the same age group.


http://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/nedaDir/files/documents/handouts/MalesRes.pdf

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I think I would have to agree.

I worked in Accting in a hospital that had a unit that was run by Rader Institute......one of the leading eating disorder treatment agencys in the US. In my time there I never saw a male treated. Males may have issues but it may not go as far as females to lead to life threatening stages.

 

All the time... You would even find a few of my older posts poking fun at my big ass butt...

I do.

You just said the same thing...

Foolishness.

Sin Mari dropping mad knowledge bombs all over this thread.

 

Men may not suffer from as many eating disorders but they still have a lot of pressure on them to look good. Men are more into getting muscles, while females are into just staying thin. Men trying to obtain a ripped body can be very dangerous and stressful (just like a women dealing with an eating disorder).

As I said in another thread, the idea that women have more pressure on them to be thin/look good is a bunch of feminist propaganda (to make them out to be victims). Its just NOT true.

 

Yeah same here. I bust my ass in the gym to stay lean and fit. Its funny that some of these females on here think a lot of men are just a lazy bunch of pigs when in reality we may just bust our asses in the gym a little harder than they do lol.

As I said in a previous post, just cause men dont deal with eating disorders as much as women, that doesnt mean they have the same amount of pressure to look good. Take a look in the Female lockerroom and you'll see their ideal type of man haha.

 

Real all posts then. There aren't a lot of pics of BM on the internet unless they are gay farking each other in the butt pics. There are tons of pics of women in every corner of the net. It you tried to find an average BM you would have some difficulty finding good pics. Go ahead. :axe:

 

This is the only place I've ever been, or even heard the subject debated, whether women feel more pressure to look attractive and appear weight appropriate than most men.

Bizarre.

I don't know if it's because some of the male posters here are that myopic, or they lack real life experience with a variety of women.
A man may have anxiety about his appearance, but he's not judged on it to nearly the same level as women are.

Look at movies. Watch the news anchors on TV.

How many of the men are even considered universally attractive??
How many of the women are borderline beautiful??

Men usually select women based on physical attraction first.
Women rarely go around looking for guys who only look like male dymes w/ six packs.

They just don't have that luxury.

Beauty is rarely the only reason why a man is popular or successful with women.

That's why guys call it having 'game'.
'Game' for women is being attractive.

Is this even a debate??:smt103

 

Riiiiight. Lets be honest, you females are just as shallow or even more shallow as us guys. At least we're honest about it lol.

Theres are a thread in the female locker room called "I love abs" that is nearly 500 posts long.

 

This isnt a fact.

Come on, quite trying to suck up to the females on here lol

 

I know for a fact athena commented that she took a pic off a gay site for there. Because of lack of pics to find.

I don't like overly hard guys. I like reasonable shape but you get a guy who looks like he is on steroids and in extreme weightlifting he isn't huggable to me....he hurts in bed. So yeah it's not my preference but what people perceive to be the preference of others. No one can be certain of another's preference unless they ask.

 

You're a strange dude.

And slightly misogynist.

I can't tell you how many FAT dudes I played football with who were fucking on the regular one of the hottest cheerleaders in school, or a sloppy guy at work who's chick looks better than any girl in the building.

You just don't see the flip side of this situation often.

It's a man's world for a reason.
The deck is stacked in our favor.


If this IS a debate, I'll pass.:smt015

 

This isn't a debate... you the only person in here trying turn this into one. On the flipside I see plenty of overweight women with (no homosexual) handsome in shape men on a daily basis. I'm one of them.

 

Both these guys are considered 'sex symbols' and have played romantic leads in movies.






:smt101

 

Wait wait wait, so because I think men have it just as bad...I'm suddenly a misogynist????:smt043
Stop trying to make me out to be the villain.

 

Being a misogynist doesn't mean you're a villain. But to say that a woman vocalizing she has way more pressure to look good in the body and face than a man is 'feminist propaganda' to me sounds like you've got some unresolved hostility towards females.

 

Jack Black is a sex symbol? :smt042