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Discussion in 'In the News' started by The Dark King, Oct 17, 2011.

  1. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    where have you been hiding dude ?
     
  2. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member


    There're too many distinctions to consider that statement a fair and balanced observation. The police have an affirmative duty to protect citizens and not engage in profiling. A law abiding Black man doesn't have the power of the state on his side to protect him if he abridges the civil rights of others. Neither do Black men have a history of violating the civil rights of policemen, or of committing acts of violence against them and then using the power of the state, to cover it up - think the people who were killed on the bridge in New Orleans where police killed them and planted guns to suggest that they were shot at first by the innocent people.


    I haven't read the entire thread of viewed the video, but I can say that you know little about history and inspiration, if you believe that MLK wasn't one of the most inspirational people of the 20th century, bar none. Have you never read accounts of him going to jail numerous times, facing the police and marching for civil rights as white mobs looked on? All of this was done at a time when the KKK and the police were often one and the same in the south, and there was no concern for how police treated black people. You may have had a point but you totally lost all credibility with those mis-informed and inaccurate remarks.
     
  3. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    this is what i will tell you...he grew up poor in jersey city, nj...got a football scholarship to a small college in montana...wasted precious time not studying...moved to chicago...worked his way throught school undergrad...became a police officer...works two jobs and is getting his masters...his patrol is the southside of chicago...when he sees a bm out late at night he automatically thinks that person is up to no good...call it what you want but it is the reality of his world...he is one of the nicest guys you ever want to meet...but he is not trying to die being a cop...we can call it what it is which is profiling or we can say...that person seems out of place...

    perhaps in jaisee's case...rich jewish neighborhood...the cop didn't think he belonged there so he kept a watchful eye...jaisee knew he belonged there because he was visiting someone...one might say he shouldn't have felt nervous if he wasn't doing anything wrong....

    cops are up and down my street daily...i'm sure some people feel protected by their presence and others nervous...i live in a predominantly black neighborhood...does that mean the police are profiling or it is a high crime area and just doing their job...

    profiling may be preconceived notions or perception of a situation...some may say it is instinct...call it whatever you want but we all know what it is...
     
  4. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    My point is he wasn't the only doing what you mentioned he just happen to be more articulate and to stand out. There were thousands of black people doing the same thing but to onlookers like some of those posting here they would be considered crazy ranters with no real point.
     
  5. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Obama and MLk are not the same. Dr. King is on the level of Mandela and other great freedom fighters. He was marching on for the rights of me and your black ass while knowing his life was in danger. He took a bullet to his chest and died at young age of 38, so the new generation minorities can have a shot on the American dream. It is mind boggling to see educated blk folks comparing Obama to MLk. Obama is a self serving, ego maniac, and manipulative, typical Chicago politician. He ain’t nobody's freedom fighter!!!! If he is I haven’t seen it. I bet he is fighting to fatten his bank account. He uses everything to his advantage. I bet you he is prolly using religion for electability. We haven’t seen him go to church since he got to Washington DC. Watch out, he will throw you, just like he threw his grand ma & his pastor under the bus for a vote. I don’t trust him as far as I can spit. Oh well, I guess I will hold my nose and vote for him again.
     
  6. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Brilliantly stated. I hate when people equate being wary of the cops as the same thing as profiling. I can't DO anything to the cops. The cops CAN do something to me. They can't plant drugs on me, accuse me of misorderly conduct, and any other litany of infractions and get away with it. I fund and invest into the very organization that could oppress and harass me. It's not even close to the same thing.
     
  7. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    That wasn't my point. They are both very charasmatic speakers and even though they speak on behalf of the people there were many others on the front lines taking the hits before they got into the spot light.
     
  8. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Agreed on bold but they are not on the same level. One is fighting for equality and justice of opressed and shackled ppl, the other, oh well, is fighting for name recognition and self interest.
     
  9. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    In a crowd of people, throw in a few dozen police officer with automatic weapons and you think he had just talked in a conversational voice, he would have been heard?
     
  10. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    I wasn't alive to witness what King did so I can't speak on it.
     
  11. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Thank God someone gets it.
     
  12. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    :smt023very few men regardless of race would find themselves in the same company as MLK...he is one of two men that i often wonder had they not been assassinated what would have been thier ongoing contributions to society...the other man being JFK
     
  13. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Me either! Many ppl weren't alive during Fredrick Douglas and the other fighters or even slavery but we know about it. HISTORY!!!!! I am sure you read more books than I do. Come on bruh, you're a Poli sci major, a grad student and a future professor, don't let me down, lol.

    You're gonna be molding & shaping the future of this country someday, lol.....
     
  14. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    There is not a justification for breaking the law by the police, which is what that amounts to. I'd suggest that he shouldn't be a policeman if he can't fulfill the full measure of his duty and treat all citizens fairly and without prejudgment. It's that kind of attitude that leads to citizen mistrust of policemen and potential unprovoked violence based on a law abiding citizen reaching for his wallet.

    You may feel unafraid because you aren't a person of color, it's really that simple. the reality is that there's a history that undeniable regarding the unjust use of force, framing of innocent people, and random violence, all against often innocent Black people. It seldom has much to do with being in the wrong place as much as much as being Black, and that's from a man who's lived in gated communities with homes approaching seven figures, in the Chicago suburbs. I always thought that if my home was broken into, I'd be hesitant to call the police, because the odds are that the burglars in those high prices digs would be white and there I'd be, wondering who'd be shot as policemen entered my home.

    Perhaps, you are of the mind that it's OK if lawful people get caught up in the unlawful zealous and unlawful actions to protect, but I stand it against it every time.
     
  15. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Like you said it's easy to ignore and justify when you personally don't have to worry about it. Smh
     
  16. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Lol I'm of the mind that if "history" had us believing that Columbus "discovered" America, the US fought the British for independence, and that the Civil War was fought to free the slaves then anything is up in the air. Can't drink the kool aide anymore fam.
     
  17. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    so let's look at the video...bm protesting...yelling at the police...the police are looking at him...they see a bm being unruly...he is wearing a jacket that indicates he has served...did it ever occur to you that the police gave him a pass because of his jacket? how is that not profiling in his favor? you view the video and assume he has served...do we know for sure that is true...that could be his brothers jacket...

    i have witnessed plenty of corruption....police officers get fired in denver on the regular...but i will not subscribe to all being bad
     
  18. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    I agree to a point what refugee stated. MLK was a freedom fighter. B.O. is a man who is prez. he maybe doing something for all people as politician or he could be selfserving . in either case its apple and oranges. B.O. is the product of what MLK did. what MLK did was he gave the opportunity for every person the right to go after their goals. regardless of race and of social and economical class
     
  19. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    This is why he'll always be an associate professor and not a full one

    :p
     
  20. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    Lippie, as I mentioned in my posting, I didn't watch the video and both of my comments to you and DK weren't about the video but about commentary that you both offered in support of your arguments. I responded specifically to the point you made regarding Jaisee being in the "wrong" place, and your seemingly lax attitude about profiling, and that people who don't commit crimes have no reason to fear.

    I was surprised to see such statements as I'd have thought, having dated Black men and having discussions about these issues, that you'd have a bit more sensitivity for the amount of race related police mistreatment that occurs. It's also common knowledge, and experience, for most Black people that we don't have the same privilege to express our disenchantment against officials, especially policemen.

    I remember posting a YouTube video about a White guy in New England being issued a speeding ticket and he goes bananas, swears unrelentingly at the policeman and then tears the ticket into tiny pieces and throws it out the window. I can tell you that there's no way on God's green Earth that I'd say anything but yes officer in ANY confrontation with a policeman, because I'd don't think I'd be granted the same privilege of venting or being upset. I can tell you that I was almost shot by a policeman a few years ago. I got lost driving an obviously high priced sports convertible with a female passenger. I saw a police car and sought assistance. In return, the policeman threw open his door, pulled his weapon and said, don't ever approach a police car. But, aren't we taught to ask for assistance if we have problems?? So, you think that imbued me with a sense of safety around police?

    I could tell you about other encounters as well, all where some official or policeman made some prejudgment that could have ended badly for me, save luck and the grace of God. The point is that the ill-ease that Black men have around and for policemen is well deserved, and shouldn't be dismissed as paranoia.
     
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