Kyle Rittenhouse Murder Trial

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Young Herschel, Nov 16, 2021.

  1. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Forget about it. Nothing Kyle Rittenhouse did that night would stop you from believing he was a hero.
     
  2. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    I never called him a hero and I don't believe he's a hero, nor should he be hailed as one. I have an issue with the conservatives I've seen hailing him as one for taking down a child rapist, etc. No one knew who those guys were when they were shot and killed.

    As I think more about how long it took for the verdict, I think the fact the jury took 3+ days to come up with not guilty meant they understood the heavy burden they had and they were thorough in looking at all of the evidence and there was reasonable doubt.

    Stop allowing the leftwing media to color your thinking. Even the psychotic TYT Ana apologized after watching the trial. She isn't one to back down on any of her opinions, and the fact that she publicly apologized should tell you everything you need to know about how the media portrayed this entire situation. They needed a narrative that divided the country.
     
  3. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    His friend bought the gun for Kyle to have when he turned 18.
     
  4. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    The judge did nothing illegal. Court rules largely allow judges to run their courtrooms as they please. Yes, you are right in that I would have liked to see a jury that was more representative of Kenosha’s demographics. Since neither shooter nor victims was black, defense counsel is better positioned to argue that the jury was, in fact, a jury of peers.
    That being said, I think people from other segments of society with different experiences might have construed his actions differently. I also think that the reasonable person standard for evaluating evidence is role with opportunities for abuse.
     
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  5. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    I think the jury makeup did a fair job of representing the demographics, considering the strike options.
    There was one POC on the jury.

    Kenosha Demographics
    According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of Kenosha was:
    • White: 79.29%
    • Black or African American: 11.52%
    • Two or more races: 3.63%
    • Other race: 2.81%
    • Asian: 2.02%
    • Native American: 0.68%
    • Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.05%
    The judge also dismissed one sitting juror for making a joke about Blake.
     
  6. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    All good points. What those stats don’t capture is the larger milieu of which Kenosha is part - the greater Chicago - Milwaukee area, which doesn’t have that makeup.
     
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  7. Young Herschel

    Young Herschel Well-Known Member

    Not so fast some GOP 2nd amendment zealots might declare . . . there was a MUCH more extensive struggle for the rifle in Ahmaud Arbery's death than Joseph Rosenbaum who was eviscerated almost instantly once he got close enough to begin grabbing the rifle Kyle Rittenhouse possessed. Two claims of self defense by rifle toting defendents against unarmed decedants so . . .
     
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  8. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    I know some will disagree, but... there's no doubt that Rittenhouse is totally benefitting from being white, also this "hero", "patriot" status has everything to do with the fact that he shot people who were at the protests, and of course the reason for the protest. So, if someone had done exactly the same thing at the Unite The Right event.... No way he'd be a hero and patriot to that same crowd unless the shooter shot counter-protesters.

    One interesting thing about this self-defense thing in open carry states... A nasty can of worms is now opened, and it's only a matter of time before something happens under different circumstances, and we'll see if the same people feel it's justified self defense.
     
  9. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    I have always felt that the reasonable person standard is a huge problem. In the absence of clear instruction from the judge, a reasonable person standard in a context such as this where what the jury believes is a justified fear by the accused is highly irrational by other standards, can easily serve to exonerate someone many of us feel should be found guilty .
     
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    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

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  11. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    And Arbery's murderers were rightfully found guilty.
     

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