Kramer's Racial Tirade

Discussion in 'In the Media' started by Howiedoit, Nov 20, 2006.

  1. Howiedoit

    Howiedoit Active Member

  2. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    Well, I guess the cat is out of the bag in this case. I wonder who will be next to give themselves away in Hollyweird? It's only a matter of time from now.
     
  3. LA

    LA Well-Known Member

    What would he expect any black person in that audience to do? Be quiet and listen?
     
  4. kenny_g

    kenny_g New Member

    Well the even more sad thing about this is hollywierd will indeed protect anybody (mostly white stars) that will make racial remarks.

    For an example the government does it on a daily basis it seems like:
    Trent Lott got away with his racial remarks, and george allen got away twice and they get rewarded it seems like.
     
  5. Millionareman

    Millionareman New Member

  6. Lexington

    Lexington New Member

    Yes, they're already circling the wagons. Jerry Seinfeld will be on Letterman discussing it tonight. I heard he said Richards made a "mistake". The mistake was slipping up and providing a real glimpse of what is already common knowledge no matter how much it's denied. With that many witnesses and all the videos circulating I can't wait to here the spin on this one.
     
  7. Lexington

    Lexington New Member

    Charlie Sheen had a good black friend too yet he called Denise Richards a N*****. Many people are trained by the age of 5 on what not say but their real feelings are overlooked.
     
  8. Howiedoit

    Howiedoit Active Member

    Michael Richards is a PROFESSIONAL COMEDIAN and he should be able to take insults from hecklers, but this must have been festering in him for sometime and it took this to let it out. Mr. Richards should realize it take alot to make black people laugh good thing he wasn't on Showtime at the Apollo he would have been massacred. Telling black men they were hanging from the trees 50 years ago is Mr. Richards way of saying, "Hey, Black Man you are lucky to be in the same room with me because we were killing you left and right not so long ago. When you mention this to black people you WILL pay the price.

    One would hope Mr. Richards will learn that lesson.
     
  9. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member






     
  10. LaydeezmanCris

    LaydeezmanCris New Member

    I'm surprised he still has his teeth in the first place.
     
  11. Howiedoit

    Howiedoit Active Member

    I always find it interesting that white actors who do tv shows that have no association with black people squirm when the say or do something that is against us.

    Racism is an elephant in the room the everyone knows it's there but don't want to see it . . . you can't ignore it!!!!
     
  12. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    Sooner or later, another celebrity will give themselves away again.
     
  13. charmer

    charmer Member

    It looks like he tried to summon the spirit of Lenny Bruce to make a point about how racism is buried beneath the surface. Unfortunately for him, it didn't come off so good. He got the whole audience involved which was a mistake. And the bit about hanging upside down was more than just a mistake, that showed some real feelings there.

    With this said though, the N-word has become a dirty word in our language to anyone who's not black. Not really fair to others who may accidentally have it come out of their mouth. Not their fault that the use of the word is perpetuated by black music and comedians and is a part of everyday speech and yet only certain people are allowed to use it.

    Now it doesn't bother me, but if some people can use the word, then others should be able to also...just not in the context that Mr. Richards used it.
     
  14. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    That is true Howie. Look how fast the book by OJ came and went in six days by complaints even that that racist Furhman who made money off the case and not arrested for persjury. It is the great big elephant.
     
  15. jxsilicon9

    jxsilicon9 Active Member

    Former Seinfeld star Michael "Kramer" Richards quickly bowed to public pressure and apologized for his boneheaded N-word laced diatribe against black customers who allegedly heckled him during his appearance at the Laugh Factory. But Richards was a soft target. He’s a white man that sprinted way over the line of racial etiquette. It was a no brainer that blacks would rage against him. They have done the same against the legion of other white celebrities, politicians and public figures that have gotten caught with their racial pants hanging down.

    When the predictable firestorm hits, they back peddle fast, do their mea culpas and declare they’re not racist.

    The same can’t be said for the legion of black comedians and rappers that have virtually canonized the word. They sprinkle the word throughout their rap lyrics and comedy lines, and black writers, and filmmakers go through lengthy gyrations to justify using the word. During a panel discussion at the Summer Television Critics Association tour in 2005, Aaron McGruder, creator of the popular comic strip, Boondocks, defiantly told the audience that he’d use the N-word as much as he pleased in his comic strip and in his series on the Cartoon Network’s Adult Swim. If folks didn’t like it, well tough.

    McGruder and N-word users and apologists serve up the lame rationale that the more a black person uses the word, the less offensive it becomes. They claim that they are cleansing the word of its negative connotations so that racists can no longer use it to hurt blacks. Comedian, turned activist, Dick Gregory had the same idea some years ago when he titled his autobiography, Nigger.

    Black writer, Robert DeCoy also tried to apply the same racial shock therapy to whites when he titled his novel, The Nigger Bible.

    The black N-word apologists tick off an endless storehouse of defenses to justify use of the word. They claim that that it is a term of endearingly or affectionately. They say to each other, "You're my nigger if you don't get no bigger." Or, "that nigger sure is something." Others use it in anger or disdain, "Nigger you sure got an attitude." Or, "A nigger ain't s..." Still, others are defiant. They say they don't care what a white person calls them since words can't harm them.

    They forget, ignore or distort one thing. Words are not value neutral. They express concepts and ideas. Often, words reflect society's standards. If color-phobia is a deep-rooted standard in American life, then a word, as emotionally charged as nigger, will always reinforce and perpetuate stereotypes. It can’t be sanitized, cleansed, inverted, or redeemed as a culturally liberating word. Nigger can’t and shouldn’t be made acceptable, no matter whose mouth it comes out of or what excuse is tossed out for using it.

    There are still dozens of daily examples where whites (and other non-blacks) taunt, and harass blacks by calling them nigger, spray paint the word on their homes, businesses, churches, physically assault and even murder blacks. In the FBI’s annual count of hate crimes in America, blacks still make up the overwhelming majority of victims.

    The N-word reigns supreme at the top of the stack as the favorite racial epithet hurled at blacks during these crimes. Even when the word isn’t used, the sentiment is that blacks are still fair game too be abused and dehumanized, and the N word reinforces that belief. The word nigger is and will always have, grotesque, and deadly meaning to them. And, even if some blacks do occasionally go off the deep end and wrongly harangue whites for using the word, maybe that’s because nigger, pricks agonizing historical and social sores.

    In all fairness, a handful of black activists have waged war against the N word. There’s a website that hawks T shirts, DVDs and exhorts blacks, especially young blacks, to solemnly pledge not to use the word or patronize anyone who puts out products that use the word. Presumably that’s aimed at those rappers and writers that have turned the N word into a lucrative growth industry.

    But they have been the exception. Blacks have been more than willing to give other blacks that use the word a pass. The indulgence sends the subtle signal that the word is hardly the earth-shattering, illegitimate word that black and white N word opponents brand it.

    Richards gave no public hint before his profane outburst that he was a closet bigot who routinely used the word in reference to blacks. But he didn’t have too. The obsessive use of and the tortured defense of the word by so many blacks gave Richards the license to use the word without any thought that there’d be any blow back for doing it. He was terribly wrong and got publicly called out for it. The blacks that use and defend that word should be called out too.

    Who’s willing to do that?

    BlackNews.com columnist Earl Ofari Hutchinson is a political analyst and social issues commentator, and the author of The Emerging Black GOP Majority (Middle Passage Press, September 2006), a hard-hitting look at Bush and The GOP’s court of black voters. For order information, see www.blackgopbook.com

    For media interviews, contact:
    Mr. Hutchinson at 323-296-6331 or hutchinsonreport@aol.com
     
  16. ronaldl79

    ronaldl79 New Member

    "Nigger" -- "Nigga" -- what's the difference?

    People need to stop getting offended by these words, because "nigga" is used everyday. Yet, no one complains about that, do they? Nah, only when the "white man" uses it.
     
  17. jechtjames

    jechtjames New Member

    With all due respect

    That word is still hurtful and I doubt you would be so non-chalant if a white man or woman called you the N word. If you were an audience member during Michael Richards (kramers) rant are you trying to tell me you wouldn't have been offended?
     
  18. Howiedoit

    Howiedoit Active Member

    You are right Ronald, it is just a word but coming from the person(s) it says a lot.

    Let me explain.

    Coming from a black man or woman it shows a great deal of self-hated, and low self-esteem and one must question the education and job status of this person who will not be comfortable working in a corporate world. I myself will not include him or her in MY circle of friends if they constantly use the word, even in a lovingly term.

    Coming from a white man or woman the word "Nigger" is DYNAMITE because it is meant but to degrade and demean a black person for a white person to take the time to say the "N-word" it must come from the heart. Usually after they say the word a burning cross is put on a lawn so a black person HAS to take it seriously.

    Take out the "N-word", Mr. Richards pronounced that "Black men use to be hanging from trees 50 years ago with a fork up our butts" now that's a racist statement.

    Below is an example:

    A couple of years ago in the state of Maryland a group of black affuent future homeowners moved in an area of Charles county which was dominated by white people had their homes burned to the the ground because the white residents didn't want them there.

    Read below:

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/lo...1,2378051.storygallery?coll=bal-local-utility
     
  19. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    Right on, Howie. Whether it's 'nigga' or 'nigger', either way, the word shouldn't be used by anyone. Neither one has any positive connotation or meaning, in fact, the 2 words are actually the same, but spoken/pronounced differently with a slightly different interpretation, which contradicts one another.
     
  20. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    Excellent article. I agree with it, word from word.
     

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